Watkins90 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Before Sean McDermott, this team hadn't made the playoffs in 17 years. We were the butt of the NFL for, forever. McDermott has gotten us to the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years. Think about that, we went 17 years without a playoff appearance and now we have been there two out of the last 3 years. I don't get the hate for McDermott, he has simply gotten the job done. He has gotten us what we all wanted, a chance at the Super Bowl. You can't get a chance if you don't make the playoffs. Beane and McDermott reset this team, and are now building it to compete each and every year. Now, it's about building on last year's playoff appearance and turning it into a playoff win and then eventually a Super Bowl. I think some here forget how bad it was here for 17 years. Let's cool the fire everyone takes. Lets see where this team is after the Patriots game. 18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Great loser mentality 1 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 But we lost to the Super Bowl champs and projected #1 team in the AFC if not NFL clearly everything is terrible and we should just start over. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 You are not allowed to be logical around here after a loss. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 But they stink at football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I'm in the middle. I get what you're saying - but the man needs to start showing up in these big games. Tonight felt like coaching. It didn't feel like much else. I didn't understand - AT ALL - what kind of defensive identity we were trying to establish. And we played scared the whole game. I'm not giving up on McD. But he hasn't proven much yet, imo. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I’m getting Marvin Lewis and Bengals vibes 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I think the difference, and I may be jumping the gun here....but I think the difference from those 17 years prior....we actually have a QB. There's no excuses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4-2 and still tops in the AFCE. However keep playing uninspired and unprepared football and that division lead will quickly go away. and you don’t win the Division McD eyes turn to you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Nobody with half a brain wants to see anyone fired at this point. It's just blowing off steam. But there is concern. I was willing to give the entire team a pass for last week given the injuries and strange circumstances leading up to the game. This week, though, they seemed clearly outclassed in every respect. Yes, the Chiefs are a damn good team and the reigning champs, but they shouldn't be able to dominate a legitimate playoff team on the road like they did. The way we played (and coached), we weren't beating many teams tonight (outside of the absolute dregs like the NJ teams). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: You are not allowed to be logical around here after a loss. I mean I guess that's fair got to give people a few days to B word and moan and for the all-22 to come out and show it's nowhere near as bad as they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean I guess that's fair got to give people a few days to B word and moan and for the all-22 to come out and show it's nowhere near as bad as they think. Other then the can’t pass can’t run can’t play defense thing you might be onto something. Edited October 20, 2020 by Teddy KGB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I checked my package, its ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 If we don’t beat the Jets by 40 next week, Scott might need another server upgrade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: 4-2 and still tops in the AFCE. However keep playing uninspired and unprepared football and that division lead will quickly go away. and you don’t win the Division McD eyes turn to you. It honestly felt like we finally got things figured out somewhat at the end of the game problem was we were playing Mahomes and the Chiefs and that's just hard to stop even when you do get your game going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Success said: I'm in the middle. I get what you're saying - but the man needs to start showing up in these big games. Tonight felt like coaching. It didn't feel like much else. I didn't understand - AT ALL - what kind of defensive identity we were trying to establish. And we played scared the whole game. I'm not giving up on McD. But he hasn't proven much yet, imo. We had better personnel on defense last year. The changes made in the off season were not for the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Other then the can’t pass can’t run can’t play defense thing you might be onto something. Go on let it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yes, yes it ain't over yet, but 2 losses like this? How does it NOT bring back not too distant memories? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Nobody with half a brain wants to see anyone fired at this point. It's just blowing off steam. But there is concern. I was willing to give the entire team a pass for last week given the injuries and strange circumstances leading up to the game. This week, though, they seemed clearly outclassed in every respect. Yes, the Chiefs are a damn good team and the reigning champs, but they shouldn't be able to dominate a legitimate playoff team on the road like they did. The way we played (and coached), we weren't beating many teams tonight (outside of the absolute dregs like the NJ teams). No i seriously want Frazier gone and McDermott to call the defense for the rest of the season then get a more aggressive minded dc and never have to hear bend but dont break again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 McDermott probably has as much rope as any coach in the league not named Bill Belicheck or Andy Reid. His job is 100% secure, but the fanbase is going to eat his face if we choke against the Jets (which they absolutely should not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Warcodered said: Go on let it all out. pretend this front 7 isn’t gonna get pounded into the ground for the rest of the season lmao. 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Go ask Bengals fans what they thought about Marvin Lewis McD was a great coach to get us over that hump but he will never take us deep into the playoffs or win a SB. He just isn't at that level. years of mediocrity have blinded bills fans into believing he is a top tier HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I’m getting Marvin Lewis and Bengals vibes 5 years ago, we would have clamored for a coach like Lewis, who could consistently get us to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Watkins90 said: 5 years ago, we would have clamored for a coach like Lewis, who could consistently get us to the playoffs. whats the point of constantly making the playoffs but not doing anything when your there? you want to be that team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) With the schedule as it was I would have been thrilled with 4-2 in the beginning of the season. It is way too early to panic but something does need to be done about the front seven. It is possible to still support the team and see them as a playoff contender and at the same time still be worried about a potential glaring hole that could damage the season if not addressed. Edited October 20, 2020 by dgrochester55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Nope people don't need to 'check themself' Its a game, people are fans. Fans can comment however they want. If there is a set of rules for how people react emotionally being a fan, that defeats the whole purpose of it. So basically, we should only say positive things on this forum or nothing at all until after the Patriots game? You said this team has gotten to the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years....the other side of that is this team STILL has not won a single playoff game, getting there 2 of the last 3 years is no big deal. That said...the team is still leading the division and they CAN get better. I personally do not think this is a bad team...but to tell people how to react after the last 2 games....not a good look. Edited October 20, 2020 by mjd1001 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I can't believe the negativity after having been a season ticket holder for the decade of fail We are in the post season mix and kept the Champions under 30 Stop whining already 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: Belichick will eat McDermott alive in the upcomming Pats games IMO. And if he does another check Mark on McD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Belichick will eat McDermott alive in the upcomming Pats games IMO. With what? Practice squad players? Wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Let's cool the fire everyone takes. Lets see where this team is after the Patriots game. You mean before the Bills start playing tough contending teams again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Nope people don't need to 'check themself' Its a game, people are fans. Fans can comment however they want. If there is a set of rules for how people react emotionally being a fan, that defeats the whole purpose of it. So basically, we should only say positive things on this forum or nothing at all until after the Patriots game? You said this team has gotten to the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years....the other side of that is this team STILL has not won a single playoff game, getting there 2 of the last 3 years is no big deal. That said...the team is still leading the division and they CAN get better. I personally do not think this is a bad team...but to tell people how to react after the last 2 games....not a good look. It's one thing to say something negative. It's another thing for every other post be fire this guy or that guy, or cut this guy and that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 4-2 and still tops in the AFCE. However keep playing uninspired and unprepared football and that division lead will quickly go away. and you don’t win the Division McD eyes turn to you. Next 2 games are huge for us and the Division. if we get to the midway point at 6-2 I'm very content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Billever76 said: No i seriously want Frazier gone and McDermott to call the defense for the rest of the season then get a more aggressive minded dc and never have to hear bend but dont break again Its the players not having heart and playing poorly more then anything. Firing Frazier won't solve that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean I guess that's fair got to give people a few days to B word and moan and for the all-22 to come out and show it's nowhere near as bad as they think. Yes of course. The all 22 will show us that we were all just having a bad dream and the mess we clearly saw happening was actually just fine--not bad at all in fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Real McNasty said: Next 2 games are huge for us and the Division. if we get to the midway point at 6-2 I'm very content. Completely agree. I want this defense to actually step up for a game and Blank the Jets. If MIA can you should (you are more talented they say). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said: McDermott probably has as much rope as any coach in the league not named Bill Belicheck or Andy Reid. His job is 100% secure, but the fanbase is going to eat his face if we choke against the Jets (which they absolutely should not). As much as Pete Carroll? Mike Tomlin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, stuvian said: I can't believe the negativity after having been a season ticket holder for the decade of fail We are in the post season mix and kept the Champions under 30 Stop whining already I understand who we lost to the past two weeks. Losing is one thing, two total beat downs is inexcusable. Our defense is nothing short of pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) I'm not that upset. I didn't think the Bills would beat KC so I was just hoping the team didn't get blown out and they show they could put up a fight. I wasn't thinking world beaters because of the hot start because the defense kept everyone we played in the games when it could of been domination. I'm leaning twords this not being the year the team makes it to the big show for sure. Edited October 20, 2020 by Lfod 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: With the schedule as it was I would have been thrilled with 4-2 in the beginning of the season. It is way too early to panic but something does need to be done about the front seven. It is possible to still support the team and see them as a playoff contender and at the same time still be worried about a potential glaring hole that could damage the season if not addressed. Another rational post. Thank you. We just lost to the SB champs by only 9 points playing absolutely horrendous football. We are not an elite team yet but I'm not ready to can anybody. The way some folks are talking, I'd be hard pressed to convince anyone this is a Bills fan forum. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: Yes, yes it ain't over yet, but 2 losses like this? How does it NOT bring back not too distant memories? Exactly. I've been a Bills fan for too long to NOT get a bit nervous about what I'm seeing. Even the Rams win. That was mostly Josh heroics after surrendering a 25 point 2nd half lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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