Allen 2020 stats (ALL 19 Games): 68.4% comp, 7.7 YPA, 104.9 Passer Rating, 52 TDs, 17 TOs (offseason talk starts pg 35)

[transplantbillsfan]

On 11/9/2020 at 6:29 PM, buffalo2218 said:

Wow, Allen had 20 passing TDs the whole year last year. He may surpass 40 at this rate. If this defense balls out the rest of the year like yesterday, he could hit 50

 

It really just is amazing.

 

I honestly think the most critical aspect of Josh's success has been continuity in OC with Daboll, which is the antithesis of what's happened with his buddy Darnold.

 

I just really hope Dorsey is being groomed as Daboll's replacement next year to maintain that continuity.

[buffalo2218]

11 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

It really just is amazing.

 

I honestly think the most critical aspect of Josh's success has been continuity in OC with Daboll, which is the antithesis of what's happened with his buddy Darnold.

 

I just really hope Dorsey is being groomed as Daboll's replacement next year to maintain that continuity.

Quite honestly, I’m not so sure Daboll would leave. He’s got a good thing goin in Buffalo and IIRC he’s also a Buffalo native. Plus I think the bond he’s formed with Allen could keep him in Buffalo. I’m not sure the Pegulas wouldn’t make him an offer he couldn’t refuse 

[Protocal69]

17 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

High Football IQ is an “odd handle” for this cat

Been saying the same thing for the last 2 weeks regarding that dude. Goes back to one of my philosophies, which is basically if a person or a business has to tell you who they are then they are probability not it. For example " Reliable Auto Sales"  " Dependable Paving"  to name a few.

[PrimeTime101]

im going to add to this conversation and talk about mvp candidate's name on left and stats josh allen has better 

 

Mahomes< Josh has 68.9% accuracy 3% more.  = same yards per pass 8.2. most other stats mahomes wins (for me hes #1 mvp candidate)

 

Rogers< Josh has 3.3% more accuracy < Josh has 234 more total yards < .2 more per pass < Allen has 35 more pass attended (more attended better numbers.. interesting)

Rogers is better in td/ int # and ratio but josh owns the rest

 

I say Mahomes likely wins mvp unless something big happens. where josh falls behind in passing td he catches up in rushing td and we are not even talking about rushing yet so lets get to that...

 

Josh has 90 more rushing yards and 3 more rushing td then mahomes 5 rush td total

Rogers 0 rush td  61 rushing yards

 

when you combine total td 

Josh 25 total td

Mahomes  26 total td

Rogers 24 total td

 

Total combined yards

Josh 2,827

Mahomes 2,752

Rogers 2,314

 

So when you equal up total yards + total td its tie total td Josh leads total yards and the total td is about even.

 

And by the way.. one more thing to add for all you accuracy nuts that still say Josh is not accurate based on completion % witch WAS the narative.

% leaders 

Josh Allen ranks #6 in league in passing percent 68.9% for the year

 

bleeping right Josh needs to be in the conversation 

[Warcodered]

 

So he doesn't give his top ten QBs but he gives eight locks for some reason and Josh is on there.

[billsfan_34]

6 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

Been saying the same thing for the last 2 weeks regarding that dude. Goes back to one of my philosophies, which is basically if a person or a business has to tell you who they are then they are probability not it. For example " Reliable Auto Sales"  " Dependable Paving"  to name a few.

What a perfect analogy! Everytime I see that person post it leaves me perplexed and baffled. 

[Doc]

6 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

im going to add to this conversation and talk about mvp candidate's name on left and stats josh allen has better 

 

Mahomes< Josh has 68.9% accuracy 3% more.  = same yards per pass 8.2. most other stats mahomes wins (for me hes #1 mvp candidate)

 

Rogers< Josh has 3.3% more accuracy < Josh has 234 more total yards < .2 more per pass < Allen has 35 more pass attended (more attended better numbers.. interesting)

Rogers is better in td/ int # and ratio but josh owns the rest

 

I say Mahomes likely wins mvp unless something big happens. where josh falls behind in passing td he catches up in rushing td and we are not even talking about rushing yet so lets get to that...

 

Josh has 90 more rushing yards and 3 more rushing td then mahomes 5 rush td total

Rogers 0 rush td  61 rushing yards

 

when you combine total td 

Josh 25 total td

Mahomes  26 total td

Rogers 24 total td

 

Total combined yards

Josh 2,827

Mahomes 2,752

Rogers 2,314

 

So when you equal up total yards + total td its tie total td Josh leads total yards and the total td is about even.

 

And by the way.. one more thing to add for all you accuracy nuts that still say Josh is not accurate based on completion % witch WAS the narative.

% leaders 

Josh Allen ranks #6 in league in passing percent 68.9% for the year

 

bleeping right Josh needs to be in the conversation 

 

I don't know if Mahomes had any TD's take away but Josh had that Davis play ruled incorrectly so he should also have 26 total TDs.  

[thebandit27]

27 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I don't know if Mahomes had any TD's take away but Josh had that Davis play ruled incorrectly so he should also have 26 total TDs.  

That play was actually ruled correctly. The penalty was on the opposite side of the field where Diggs was covering up Gilliam. Stupid rule, but clear and obvious penalty.

[aristocrat]

kind of amazing out of the 2018 class that we all expected to be the 83 draft that Allen at the moment is the one ascending and the others are maybe maintaining or descending.  this years class looks more like the 83 class if anything.

[Doc]

2 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

That play was actually ruled correctly. The penalty was on the opposite side of the field where Diggs was covering up Gilliam. Stupid rule, but clear and obvious penalty.

 

Sorry.  Meant the Davis sideline tightrope one on Sunday.

Edited November 12, 2020 by Doc

[transplantbillsfan]

I don't even know what to say.

 

I'm sure we all thought we'd win after that TD pass to Diggs.

 

Just so disheartened. All we can do is move on and use the bye to get healthy and get better.

 

This game really doesn't swing the needle one way or another for Allen. Great final drive, but the INTs were no good, and while one looked like miscommunication, the other appeared to be on Allen.

 

I don't know why we still bother with the run game as much as we do. Just go 5 wide and let Allen throw it and occasionally run the draw play to keep the D honest.

 

Onto LA

[CincyBillsFan]

Allen did his part and more.  QB's will throw INT's and it sure sucked that a couple of his biggest passes got called back on bad penalties.

 

But with the game on the line Allen drove the Bills 78 yards for what should have been the game winning TD.  This is what makes a great QB and we have a great QB.

 

 

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[DCofNC]

7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Obviously, Josh doesn’t understand his own greatness.  He clearly is the the reason the Bills were up at the end. 

 

Or he completely understands, he had a bad game that allowed Arizona to hang in.  He made some really bad decisions today, mixed in with some great plays, but he’s right, had he not tried to turn the ball over 5 times today, the game would not have been close enough for this to happen.

[Scott7975]

8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

This is part of what makes Allen a great QB.

[transplantbillsfan]

The Bills ultimately ride or die with Allen.

 

I'm sick of our run game already.  It's completely ineffective and pointless. Moss and Singletary gained 35 yards on 11 carries, but all those yards came on 3 carries... the other 8 carries gained a net of ZERO yards.

 

The running game needs to be a threat if it's to benefit the offense.  Ours is abysmal.

 

Just run the spread formation with Allen every play in shotgun and run it no-huddle. Bring the RB back for protection when needed and the OCCASIONAL handoff.  Let Allen win or lose the games with his arm (and legs occasionally) and just accept that's the way it has to be.  Handing off to Singletary and Moss just seems such a waste of a down and gets us behind the sticks too often.  It's pretty obvious this team wins and loses with Allen at this point.  Just accept that and make that clear in the game planning.

[transplantbillsfan]

Let's just pause to appreciate the following. Among all NFL QBs, Josh Allen:

 

8th in completion percentage 

6th in TD Passes 

8th in YPA

6th in YPG (passing only)

8th in Passe Rating 

5th in Total Qbr

 

Year 3 and Josh Allen is a top 10 NFL QB.

 

Let's just enjoy this.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Ralonzo]

Not even a 50 yard pass? Literally every other QB on the list has a 50 yard pass.

 

Bust!

[DuckyBoys]

Defense is beyond awful.  We cannot stop the run at all.  The offense being effective and sustaining drives is now hiding just how bad the defense is.  Conversely we cant run even against small fronts and defenses designed to drop against the pass.  No complementary football.  Defense has not had a return td in three seasons  How is that even possible?  McDermott has two weeks to get some of this fixed.  This is beyond ridiculous to not address any of your teams problems all season long. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

On pace for a 43 TD Season?

 

That would shatter Jimbo’s Bills’ record by 10! 👍🏈🎉

[SCBills]

I think we need to get the running game going to the tune of them not being wasted downs, but as long as Moss/Singletary are getting a couple yards per run, I’m fine with it.   Just stop with the multiple negative runs per game and focus on getting us to manageable down and distances.  
 

The NFL is a passing league, and we have a QB who should, theoretically, be able to throw in all conditions as long as we are providing him with the talent necessary.  
 

I attribute John Brown’s injury riddled season so far with about 80% of the passing issues we’ve had and 20% to a couple bad weather games.   This is why I’d be banging on the table to draft a speed WR in Rd1 this year.. if it means having 7 active WRs on game days, so be it. 
 

In the Playoffs, if we need to be able to run... we all know who we can turn to...  It’s the guy this thread is about.  I’m fully on board with reigning him in on runs during the regular season, but I think we all know that, come Playoff time, Allen can - and likely will - be running more.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

impressive.  I mean I expect him to drop to 7 or 8 while some of these other QBs get in their 10th game, but still pretty dramatic improvement. 
 

the rest of his draft class is nowhere to be seen. 

Edited November 17, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[transplantbillsfan]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

He does lead the league in passing yards, but he's played 1 more game than many QBs.

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

impressive.  I mean I expect him to drop to 7 or 8 while some of these other QBs get in their 10th game, but still pretty dramatic improvement. 

 

He's 6th in passing yards per game, so statistically he'll probably be 5th-7th by next Tuesday.

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[GunnerBill]

On 11/16/2020 at 6:38 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

This is great because it is right. Josh put us up at the end so that it could come down to 1 play but had he played better throughout it would not have needed to. That he acknowledges that and holds himself accountable for it is good to hear. That is why Josh Allen gets better. Because he doesn't find excuses for himself. It is as true in football as it is in life. People who find themselves excuses for failure are bound to fail. 

[Jauronimo]

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[TheFunPolice]

And yet I watch guys like Cowherd or read articles written by national writers and they seem to keep saying Allen is "struggling"

 

LOL

 

It's insane how many people just can't stand this guy for whatever reason.

 

You also hear "passing numbers are way up this year, so it's not a big deal"

 

YET, Allen is still #1 in yards and top 10 in almost everything else that matters. So his ranking relative to all the other QBs is fantastic, yet some still want to explain it away. 

 

Luckily, the only thing that matters is that Allen is good, getting better, and the Bills are winning much more often than they are losing!

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

And yet I watch guys like Cowherd or read articles written by national writers and they seem to keep saying Allen is "struggling"

 

LOL

 

It's insane how many people just can't stand this guy for whatever reason.

 

You also hear "passing numbers are way up this year, so it's not a big deal"

 

YET, Allen is still #1 in yards and top 10 in almost everything else that matters. So his ranking relative to all the other QBs is fantastic, yet some still want to explain it away. 

 

Luckily, the only thing that matters is that Allen is good, getting better, and the Bills are winning much more often than they are losing!

 

So I watch Cowherd - I think he is entertaining - and I see him give Josh plenty of props. Even this week he said he outplayed Kyler. Some fans only hear the negative stuff and fixate on that rather than acknowledging when people say good stuff about him.

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

Latey Cowherd has been complimentary of Allen, he's really gotten off his case.

 

He said he cooled off weeks 5-8. I mean hard to argue with that.

[GoBills808]

23 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

 

 

When that play happened in-game I thought it was either a very strange play design or Diggs ran his route poorly...but after seeing the coaches film it just looks like a good/lucky call on defense with bracket coverage on Diggs. And a great play by Peterson to sag off his man knowing he can cheat a little peek at QB with help

[No_Matter_What]

2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

When that play happened in-game I thought it was either a very strange play design or Diggs ran his route poorly...but after seeing the coaches film it just looks like a good/lucky call on defense with bracket coverage on Diggs. And a great play by Peterson to sag off his man knowing he can cheat a little peek at QB with help

Isn't this screenshot from Davis/Kirkpatrick INT?

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Isn't this screenshot from Davis/Kirkpatrick INT?

Good call

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So I watch Cowherd - I think he is entertaining - and I see him give Josh plenty of props. Even this week he said he outplayed Kyler. Some fans only hear the negative stuff and fixate on that rather than acknowledging when people say good stuff about him.

 

He's entertaining.  I actually didn't hear the segment where he said Josh outplayed Kyler.  Do you know what he said?  Was this on Monday?  In his top 10 rankings on Tuesday he put the Cards at 10 (I think) and the Bills at 5, but he didn't really talk at all about Josh as the reason for the Bills being at 5.

 

I think it's fair to say that Cowherd doesn't talk very much about Josh and it's probably because he was so critical of him for a good length of time.

3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

When that play happened in-game I thought it was either a very strange play design or Diggs ran his route poorly...but after seeing the coaches film it just looks like a good/lucky call on defense with bracket coverage on Diggs. And a great play by Peterson to sag off his man knowing he can cheat a little peek at QB with help

 

That was Diggs?  I thought it was Davis.  I can't even tell from looking at the image.

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

Isn't this screenshot from Davis/Kirkpatrick INT?

 

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Good call

 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He's entertaining.  I actually didn't hear the segment where he said Josh outplayed Kyler.  Do you know what he said?  Was this on Monday?  In his top 10 rankings on Tuesday he put the Cards at 10 (I think) and the Bills at 5, but he didn't really talk at all about Josh as the reason for the Bills being at 5.

 

I think it's fair to say that Cowherd doesn't talk very much about Josh and it's probably because he was so critical of him for a good length of time.

 

I don't think that is fair to say.... he has talked about the Bills and Josh a fair bit this year and he has been like Cowherd always is... a bit extreme in his up and downs. He said it Monday I think. Maybe outplayed was an exaggeration but he basically said our drive was an offense moving and the QB on point and theirs was an elite player making an elite play (meaning Hopkins). 

[JoshAllenReceipts]

2021 NFL Draft for Bills

 

1st round - Best TE available

 

2nd round - Best RB available

 

Give Josh a #1 TE and #1 RB. He has neither right now.

[Paulus]

5 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

2021 NFL Draft for Bills

 

1st round - Best TE available

 

2nd round - Best RB available

 

Give Josh a #1 TE and #1 RB. He has neither right now.

At least you didn't choose a RB in rd1...

 

[SCBills]

13 hours ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

2021 NFL Draft for Bills

 

1st round - Best TE available

 

2nd round - Best RB available

 

Give Josh a #1 TE and #1 RB. He has neither right now.

Id take Pitts in a second, but he’ll likely be long gone by the time we draft.   Freiermuth could be available when we pick... I’d be tempted.  
 

Id rather get Josh another speed WR there, seeing as how key a healthy John Brown is, but where I absolutely agree with you is going offense early, and often.  
 

If we let Milano walk, and we probably should, I’m not in love with a 1st round linebacker to replace him.  This is an offensive league, we already have a high potential MLB, invest in offense, pass rush and corners.   We shouldn’t need two recent 1st round linebackers out there to field a solid defense.  
 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by SCBills

[Victory Formation]

14 hours ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

2021 NFL Draft for Bills

 

1st round - Best TE available

 

2nd round - Best RB available

 

Give Josh a #1 TE and #1 RB. He has neither right now.

Think it’s the OL — not the RBs.. I’d argue that drafting a center would be more important than a TE.. Doubt Mitch Morse is here next year and Feliciano is a better guard than a center.. 
 

1st - Center

 

2nd - MLB

 

3rd - NT

 

There’s other needs on defense.. I certainly feel you draft a few corners and a safety as well... but I’m higher on Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson than most..

 

Think if we added a true MLB to pair with Edmunds and Klein we’d be fine... Klein is not going anywhere, his contract is such that there’s no way out.. Milano I’d let walk unless he comes back on a cheap prove it deal...

 

At NT/DT I’m relieved to know that Star is coming back.. but we could use another NT to plug in next to him.. Could use a Ted Washington/Pat Williams style DT to pair with him and I think our running woes would be gone..

 

Then there’s FB and TE — which I think is highly relevant to our lack of running game.. No FB this year has hurt us.. Poor blocking out of our TEs hurt us.. Lee Smith should see more playing time as a result of that reality.. He’s probably our best run blocker out of all the TEs.. Knox hasn’t provided much as a blocker nor as a receiver.. maybe activate Sweeney at this point.. I could see TE being addressed somewhere in the draft and free agency.. I like the idea of running three TE sets and pounding the ball the way San Fran does.. So I would encourage Beane to add TEs who can really block well..

 

WR — Could definitely use another one.. perhaps a speed guy in the mold of Mecole Hardman.. An elite return man who can stretch the field vertically.. an heir to replace Brown one day perhaps?

 

Don’t think we have as many holes as people think.. but we definitely need to draft very well in 2021 if we want to have a shot at a Championship next year..