Week 3: Rams at Bills

[x-BillzeBubba]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I’m going to need to see us beat teams like the Rams, before I fully buy in,

 

Sucks you cant enjoy what's obviously happening, honestly you sound like a victim

[TBBills]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I’m going to need to see us beat teams like the Rams,

So when the Bills beat the Rams will you be like "The Rams beat the Eagles and Dallas, those teams were garbage. I'm going to need to see us beat teams like...."

Edited September 26, 2020 by TBBills

[TBBills]

I think Roberts is gonna have a good day on ST's. The Rams have bad ST game...

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, TBBills said:

So when the Bills beat the Rams will you be like "The Rams beat the Eagles and Dallas, those teams were garbage. I'm going to need to see us beat teams like...."

Nah... that’ll honestly do it for me.  
 

You can be really excited about our future and still realize that the next step is to beat other good teams.  

[TBBills]

Just now, SCBills said:

Nah... that’ll honestly do it for me.  
 

You can be really excited about our future and still realize that the next step is to beat other good teams.  

Are the Rams good? they beat very bad teams also to get 2-0

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, TBBills said:

Are the Rams good? they beat very bad teams also to get 2-0

They’re perceived to be good.   Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t... but it’s a big game that will solidify our national perception as a contender, if we win.  

[x-BillzeBubba]

"but it’s a big game that will solidify our national perception as a contender, if we win. "

 

So you care mostly about the media.  gotcha

[njbuff]

Seeing TJ Yeldon might be a sneaky little change in the lineup.

 

Yeldon is a very good receiver out of the backfield and with Allen in control of the offense and with the weakness of the Rams LB's........

 

if Yeldon is on the field, he could have a field day in the passing game.

 

It might be a stretch, but worth watching.

[Scott7975]

24 minutes ago, TBBills said:

So when the Bills beat the Rams will you be like "The Rams beat the Eagles and Dallas, those teams were garbage. I'm going to need to see us beat teams like...."

 

Similar to Dallas last year.

[whatdrought]

37 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Seeing TJ Yeldon might be a sneaky little change in the lineup.

 

Yeldon is a very good receiver out of the backfield and with Allen in control of the offense and with the weakness of the Rams LB's........

 

if Yeldon is on the field, he could have a field day in the passing game.

 

It might be a stretch, but worth watching.

 

Singletary is as well, and I think he’s underused there.

[Penfield45]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

So when the Bills beat the Rams will you be like "The Rams beat the Eagles and Dallas, those teams were garbage. I'm going to need to see us beat teams like...."

 

there is nothing wrong with what he said 

 

Until the bills show they can beat playoff caliber teams we can't act like we will win the division this year. Bellicheck has years of experience beating top teams, McD doesn't (yet) 

6 hours ago, mjt328 said:

It's a little bit early to get down on our defense.

 

The Jets were completely shut-down, with the exception of a single busted play (Tremaine Edmunds makes that tackle, and they punt) and what I would consider "garbage time" points at the end of the game with the clock ticking down.  If you really think about it, their offense wasn't able to mount even one strong drive the entire game.

 

Against the Dolphins, both Fitzpatrick and the receivers played absolutely fantastic.  The pass rush was strong, and quickly in the QB's face.  The coverage wasn't bad, considering we were down both of our starting linebackers.  Sometimes there just isn't anything you can do, and the opponent just makes plays.  This was a perfect storm that worked against us.

 

This defense has been among the NFL's best for 2-3 years running, and has a lot of pride in that fact.  Don't be surprised if (assuming we are healthy again at LB) this unit has a bounce-back game on Sunday.

 

 

 

At this point, I would be surprised if Matt Milano and Taron Johnson don't play.

 

Tremaine Edmunds hasn't hit anyone all week, and is a MLB nursing a shoulder injury.  I'm not so sure about him...

 

 

once the LB's get healthy and Norman returns we will be fine. 

[Motor26]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

They’re perceived to be good.   Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t... but it’s a big game that will solidify our national perception as a contender, if we win.  

I agree. Beating the Rams would be a big win, a team who was in the Super Bowl just 2 years ago. The Rams are pretty hit or miss on any given weekend, hopefully this weekend is a miss 

[vincec]

7 hours ago, eball said:

 

This essentially means all three are playing.  Great news.

I would be so sure about Edmunds. He had no contact all week, right?

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, vincec said:

I would be so sure about Edmunds. He had no contact all week, right?

I said it in the other thread so I'll say it here too, that just means he's ready to unload on someone. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

24 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I said it in the other thread so I'll say it here too, that just means he's ready to unload on someone. 

I'm not trying to be a debbie downer, but I have yet to see him unload on anybody yet in his young 3 year career. So far he has been a pass coverage specialist playing MLB. It´s year 3, time to show some real growth.

[transplantbillsfan]

10 hours ago, x-BillzeBubba said:

 

 

Love this kinda stuff. The team really getting along and liking each other is hugely important to long term success.

[Doc Brown]

On 9/20/2020 at 11:48 PM, GoBills808 said:

LAR+3 on the road to Bills sounds about right to me...I would bet line doesn’t move more than half point either way come game day 

Sharps are all over the Rams as the line is down to -1 to -1.5 depending on the sportsbook.  They clearly haven't seen  the TBD prediction thread.

[GoBills808]

17 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Sharps are all over the Rams as the line is down to -1 to -1.5 depending on the sportsbook.  They clearly haven't seen  the TBD prediction thread.

Yeah and everybody pounding Rams +105, if that adds up to you go for it

 

 

[Doc Brown]

17 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Yeah and everybody pounding Rams +105, if that adds up to you go for it

It doesn't.  The original line (-3) seemed correct.  I think we have a slightly better roster.  It's tempting to take the Bills at this line only if Milano and Edmunds are both in the starting lineup.

[Chandler#81]

7 hours ago, SCBills said:

Nah... that’ll honestly do it for me.  
 

You can be really excited about our future and still realize that the next step is to beat other good teams.  

Nah... it won’t.

[SCBills]

3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Nah... it won’t.

Im not sure why there’s this hostility from some of you over this issue.  I’m pretty positive about our team otherwise.  
 

The national narrative for the Bills is that the next step is to beat, perceived to be, good teams.  
 

That’s not without reason.   
 

Not sure why some of you get so in your feelings over this.  
 

 

Edited September 26, 2020 by SCBills

[RunTheBall]

I have to say I’m pretty impressed with the lack of leaks from 1BD. We really have no idea what’s going on with Edmunds except it’s a shoulder issue and that means McVay doesn’t know much more either. I think this is McD trying some Hoodie level disinformation tactics. Keep your opponents guessing. 
 

If Edmunds shoulder was really damaged he’d be on IR. That makes me think it’s more of a pain issue hence the non contact jersey. Hopefully just an AC joint sprain but that’s a 100% guess on my part. I don’t think McD would have him on the practice field if there wasn’t a good chance he’s going to play. Why waste the reps if he knows he’s out? I’m thinking Edmunds is in, especially if the risk of further damage is low which I think it probably is otherwise he’d be on IR. 

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, RunTheBall said:

I have to say I’m pretty impressed with the lack of leaks from 1BD. We really have no idea what’s going on with Edmunds except it’s a shoulder issue and that means McVay doesn’t know much more either. I think this is McD trying some Hoodie level disinformation tactics. Keep your opponents guessing. 
 

If Edmunds shoulder was really damaged he’d be on IR. That makes me think it’s more of a pain issue hence the non contact jersey. Hopefully just an AC joint sprain but that’s a 100% guess on my part. I don’t think McD would have him on the practice field if there wasn’t a good chance he’s going to play. Why waste the reps if he knows he’s out? I’m thinking Edmunds is in, especially if the risk of further damage is low which I think it probably is otherwise he’d be on IR. 

This is a good point...

6 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

I'm not trying to be a debbie downer, but I have yet to see him unload on anybody yet in his young 3 year career. So far he has been a pass coverage specialist playing MLB. It´s year 3, time to show some real growth.

I agree, he is definitely not your traditional MLB...he is not a “thumper”...more of a coverage and pursuit backer, imo...

[JaCrispy]

12 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I am predicting a shootout but in the end I think have at least one of the starting LB's back is enough to get the defense to make a key stop or two and hand this team the game. 35-31 Bills. Key game as the Bills for the two must wins to start strong but a win against the Rams would be a good confidence boost to Josh and this team.

I love how we are now confident with Josh Allen in a shootout...who would have thought, last season, that this is where we would be? Such an amazing feeling going into any game knowing you have a shot...reminds me of how I used to feel with the 90s Bills...👍

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

25 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

I love how we are now confident with Josh Allen in a shootout...who would have thought, last season, that this is where we would be? Such an amazing feeling going into any game knowing you have a shot...reminds me of how I used to feel with the 90s Bills...👍

 

Some of us knew.

[SCBills]

37 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Some of us knew.

I give props to those who knew he’d fulfill this potential.  I think we all knew he had the potential, but were in the hopeful stage of him ever reaching it. 
 

I know it’s only two games, but he just has “it”.  The leadership, the work ethic, the talent....and now it’s starting to come together.  
 

I keep telling myself to temper expectations, but I don’t see any reason that he can’t elevate himself into the Mahomes/Jackson conversation of young elite QB’s. 
 

I don’t know that the Rams defense is so much better than the ones we’ve faced, but they have “names” and national recognition... if he balls out Sunday, he’s going to be - legitimately - in the MVP discussion. 
 

Edited September 26, 2020 by SCBills

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, SCBills said:

I give props to those who knew he’d fulfill this potential.  I think we all knew he had the potential, but were in the hopeful stage of him ever reaching it. 
 

I know it’s only two games, but he just has “it”.  The leadership, the work ethic, the talent....and now it’s starting to come together.  
 

I keep telling myself to temper expectations, but I don’t see any reason that he can’t elevate himself into the Mahomes/Jackson conversation of young elite QB’s. 

 

See that's what some of us saw. "It." We looked past the numbers and saw intangibles.

[eball]

4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

See that's what some of us saw. "It." We looked past the numbers and saw intangibles.

 

And more importantly, we saw rational explanation for why he wasn’t a polished product coming out of college.

[Ya Digg?]

17 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

See that's what some of us saw. "It." We looked past the numbers and saw intangibles.

 

11 minutes ago, eball said:

 

And more importantly, we saw rational explanation for why he wasn’t a polished product coming out of college.

It’s always amazing how quickly the narrative changes too. When he was drafted it was widely said that he needed a couple of years to be ready. He was made the starter sooner than anyone anticipated, struggled some but also showed that arm talent. After that rookie year people instantly forgot that he still wasn’t ready so when he struggled last year the narrative became he will always struggle because that was the hot take. 
 

It’s now funny to listen to a lot of these guys on tv and radio coming out and saying “I told you he has talent” when for 2 years they have been crushing him. The same 2 years that everyone at the beginning said he needed to get up to speed.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

 

It’s always amazing how quickly the narrative changes too. When he was drafted it was widely said that he needed a couple of years to be ready. He was made the starter sooner than anyone anticipated, struggled some but also showed that arm talent. After that rookie year people instantly forgot that he still wasn’t ready so when he struggled last year the narrative became he will always struggle because that was the hot take. 
 

It’s now funny to listen to a lot of these guys on tv and radio coming out and saying “I told you he has talent” when for 2 years they have been crushing him. The same 2 years that everyone at the beginning said he needed to get up to speed.

This, this and a side of this.

 

It happened HERE too.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[bearstobills]

2 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

This is a good point...

I agree, he is definitely not your traditional MLB...he is not a “thumper”...more of a coverage and pursuit backer, imo...

The days of Mike Singletary and Ray Lewis seem to be over.  The game has changed.  Those guys were able to come downhill toward mainly stationary quarterbacks.  The Bills are going to have to deal with guys like Lamar and Kyler for years to come, and Edmunds was brilliant against the Ravens last year.  We essentially shut them down because Edmunds had the range and speed to keep Lamar from doing his thing. Those thumpers are fun, but their era may be bygone.

Edited September 26, 2020 by bearstobills
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[smuvtalker]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

Im not sure why there’s this hostility from some of you over this issue.  I’m pretty positive about our team otherwise.  
 

The national narrative for the Bills is that the next step is to beat, perceived to be, good teams.  
 

That’s not without reason.   
 

Not sure why some of you get so in your feelings over this.  
 

 

I don't see anything wrong with your perspective.  I already believe the Bills to be a legitimate super bowl caliber team, and honestly I haven't had expectations this high since our glory years.  I don't NEED the national media to validate my opinion of our Bills. BUT, it would be nice to see us get the kudos and the respect that we deserve from the so-called "experts".  If you really stop and read alot of the articles online, and watch alot of the national football shows, the Bills really are starting to garner alot of respect and national attention.  I fully agree with you in that if we do beat the Rams Sunday, we will be even more recognized as a legit SB contender.

 

Two things about this team, this year to be precise, that encourages me more and more about them are:  

 

In SO many years past, when the Bills would get off to a fast start, or string together a nice little winning streak, the media would start to notice us, and start giving us respect.  And then we would immediately proceed to sh!t the bed and get blown out in our next game, and then go on some crappy losing streak to finish out the season.  "Same old Bills" they would call us.  Not this year.  Buffalo started the season being recognized as not only a legit team, but many picked us to finally win the division.  And you know what?  We have delivered, emphatically.  Game 1 should've been a 40 point blow-out, and game 2 should've never been as close as it was, you show me ANY team that loses BOTH of their starting linebackers AND has to play a division rival that doesn't struggle and I'll come and personally re-shingle your roof for you, free of charge.(labor fees notwithstanding).  I don't care what the Jets or Dolphins records are, division games are.NEVER.easy.  period.   And the second thing that has me truly encouraged, and fully believing that we are a legit SB contender is one Josh Allen, and the fact that he is CLUTCH.  He is at his best when the game is on the line, and i effing love him for that...the kid rises to the occasion each and every time, and that is something you just cannot teach. Either you have it or you don't.  And he has it.  In spades.  

 

It's those two reasons for me that make everyone else's opinion outside of OBD(and TBD) obsolete.  I know for a FACT that we have what it takes to make a run for the Lombardi Trophy this year, right now.

 

But I too wouldn't mind seeing us getting even more respect/recognition. And I think your feelings are valid as well.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

 

Oops. Didn’t see the thread before I posted this

[thebandit27]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

Im not sure why there’s this hostility from some of you over this issue.  I’m pretty positive about our team otherwise.  
 

The national narrative for the Bills is that the next step is to beat, perceived to be, good teams.  
 

That’s not without reason.   
 

Not sure why some of you get so in your feelings over this.  
 

 

There are certain people that are extremely sensitive about any statement that may imply even slightly that the team isn’t perfect...unless it came from them.

 

Personally, I think it’s fine to believe that the team is a serious Super Bowl contender AND understand that they haven’t beaten a good team yet.

[x-BillzeBubba]

 

[eball]

36 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

There are certain people that are extremely sensitive about any statement that may imply even slightly that the team isn’t perfect...unless it came from them.

 

Personally, I think it’s fine to believe that the team is a serious Super Bowl contender AND understand that they haven’t beaten a good team yet.

 

With respect to your first sentence, I think it’s fair to say that there are certain “triggers” it is hard to overlook — I.e., the negative or “skeptical” posters who repeat themselves without providing much (if any) insight.  There are a few “the team is perfect” posters but not many.  I think most want to defend their team but are not unreasonable.

 

There’s nothing to disagree with about your second sentence.

[YoloinOhio]

27 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said:

 

“Where Colin was right...”

[thebandit27]

34 minutes ago, eball said:

 

With respect to your first sentence, I think it’s fair to say that there are certain “triggers” it is hard to overlook — I.e., the negative or “skeptical” posters who repeat themselves without providing much (if any) insight.  There are a few “the team is perfect” posters but not many.  I think most want to defend their team but are not unreasonable.

 

There’s nothing to disagree with about your second sentence.

I think both camps are an extreme minority 

[CorkScrewHill]

Nothing official, but with Milano fully practicing yesterday I would think he plays unless he has a set back.