Week 2: Bills at Dolphins

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I am absolutely not underestimating this team. The dolphins are very well coached and physical. And it’s always tough in Miami early in the season, because of the temperature. Going to be a tough game.

[Bills fan since 87]

Bills 24 Fish 14

[stevewin]

6 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Man, Dan Orlovsky is raving about Josh Allen and Brian Daboll on NFL Live right now.  Saying how amazing it is that Allen was able to turn perceived weaknesses out of college, "no touch on the ball" and "eye discipline" (ability to look off defenders etc) into strengths. He credited Daboll and Ken Dorsey for the improvement, along with Josh's hard work.  

Thank goodness he didn't have "slow eyes"

[WideNine]

53 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I am absolutely not underestimating this team. The dolphins are very well coached and physical. And it’s always tough in Miami early in the season, because of the temperature. Going to be a tough game.

 

Flores is the real deal and I was somewhat amazed with the job he didin Miami last year.

 

They were still a tough team that played hard for him even after he jettisoned so many good players for cap and draft picks. 

 

Takes assembling a great staff  sound coaching and a clear vision.

 

Did not hurt that they poached Marvin Allen the national scout from Bean's staff to be their assistant GM.

 

They have been quietly nailing draft picks and getting some props for how their young players have been performing.

 

I guess it was too much to hope that they would stay mired in mediocrity for a long spell under a new coach.

 

 

 

[TigerJ]

Weather forecast for Hard Rock stadium on Sunday - In a word, tropical, but then it's like that every day in September.  High temperature 87 degrees with scattered thunderstorms around.  Rain won't delay a game, but a thunderstorm could.

[Richard Noggin]

1 hour ago, Penfield45 said:

fans are underestimating the dolphins defense, this isn't the same dolphins as years past. they have a proper coach in Flores. 

 

that said, its simply a must win game. looking at our schedule we have zero room to not win games like this. 

Agreed on the Dolphins generally having solid coaching (and excellent man-to-man corners). We might see some heavy pressure packages. 

 

I'd argue, however, that this isn't a MUST-win so much as it is an important divisional game against a seemingly inferior opponent (obviously). Not a lot of cupcakes on the Bills' 2020 schedule. But the Dolphins in their home opener coming off a divisional loss won't just roll over. Look what they did in Orchard Park last season, for example.

 

Can we call the later matchup in Buffalo the MUST-win instead? And call this one an important divisional game?

8 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

I guess it was too much to hope that they would stay mired in mediocrity for a long spell under a new coach.

 

 

Agreed. Leave that to the Jets.

[CNY315]

We might be overestimating the Dolphins coaching a little if they truly weren’t prepared for Cam’s running ability 

Edited September 16, 2020 by CNY315

[Logic]

While the Bills "should" win this game and, frankly, NEED to win this game, given how tough the schedule gets afterwards...

It's not going to be a gimme.

I refuse to believe that any Ryan Fitzpatrick quarterbacked team will ever definitely be an easy out.

Everyone on here should know by now that on any given day, Fitzpatrick can either throw four interceptions or four touchdowns. 

I was at Bills Stadium last year when Tre White's diving goal line interception saved the game for the Bills. Until that moment, there was a very real possibility the Bills were going to lose that game. Yes, I believe the Bills have gotten better and yes, I know Josh Allen tends to have good production against them. Still...I've seen The Fitzpatrick Show one too many times to count this game as an easy win.

[Chandler#81]

7 of the 10 folks I’m in a Pick ‘em League with are taking the Dolphins straight up to win. 

What do they know that I don’t?😳

[Warcodered]

25 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

7 of the 10 folks I’m in a Pick ‘em League with are taking the Dolphins straight up to win. 

What do they know that I don’t?😳

the recipe for meth?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

44 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

7 of the 10 folks I’m in a Pick ‘em League with are taking the Dolphins straight up to win. 

What do they know that I don’t?😳

fan duel has buffalo by 5.5 with 90% of the bets for buffalo. Certainly a bold move to go phins straight up. 
 

but Fitz is like a box of chocolates 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[eball]

For all of this talk about how well coached the Fish are, can anyone explain why they were completely unprepared for Cam Newton to run the ball on Sunday?  Our old friend Shaq Lawson got abused, and some of the comments I read from the defense suggest they were “surprised” that Newton would run.

 

Preparedness is one of the strengths of our coaching staff.  This game has the makings of another easy Bills win.

[Buffalo Junction]

1 hour ago, eball said:

For all of this talk about how well coached the Fish are, can anyone explain why they were completely unprepared for Cam Newton to run the ball on Sunday?  Our old friend Shaq Lawson got abused, and some of the comments I read from the defense suggest they were “surprised” that Newton would run.

 

Preparedness is one of the strengths of our coaching staff.  This game has the makings of another easy Bills win.

Without seeing Cam execute that offense in the preseason the players disregarded Newton’s running ability when healthy. 🤷‍♂️ I didn’t watch the game, but on the highlights it certainly seemed that Miami wasn’t prepared for some of the blocking schemes and/ just got manhandled on the edge.  

[dollars 2 donuts]

8 hours ago, WideNine said:

 

Flores is the real deal and I was somewhat amazed with the job he didin Miami last year.

 

They were still a tough team that played hard for him even after he jettisoned so many good players for cap and draft picks. 

 

Takes assembling a great staff  sound coaching and a clear vision.

 

Did not hurt that they poached Marvin Allen the national scout from Bean's staff to be their assistant GM.

 

They have been quietly nailing draft picks and getting some props for how their young players have been performing.

 

I guess it was too much to hope that they would stay mired in mediocrity for a long spell under a new coach.

 

 

 

 

If memory serves they were 5-6 in there last 11, with very little talent.  
 

5-4 against teams not named Bills.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

I know I was surprised at how well Cam moved

[eball]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Without seeing Cam execute that offense in the preseason the players disregarded Newton’s running ability when healthy. 🤷‍♂️ I didn’t watch the game, but on the highlights it certainly seemed that Miami wasn’t prepared for some of the blocking schemes and/ just got manhandled on the edge.  

 

That’s piss poor preparation by Flores.  What, they expected Cam to run Brady’s offense?

[Greg S]

The Bills are the better team and should win but divisional games especially on the road are never easy.

[Buffalo Junction]

25 minutes ago, eball said:

 

That’s piss poor preparation by Flores.  What, they expected Cam to run Brady’s offense?

It’s either piss poor preparation or an inability to get the players to take it seriously. I haven’t watched the pats/fish game yet, so I can’t comment exactly. The only other possibility is that Flores tried to scheme around talent deficiencies and Darth Hoodie knew exactly what his former assistant would try. After seeing what Flores did last year I can’t imagine that he dismissed the possibility of a healthy Cam running all day, especially after watching Allen exploit the holes in his D last year. 

[hemma]

87° and humid.  I think it is a good week to have such a deep DL.

 

We wear them down.  Squish them in the 2nd half..

[Fan in Chicago]

10 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I am absolutely not underestimating this team. The dolphins are very well coached and physical. And it’s always tough in Miami early in the season, because of the temperature. Going to be a tough game.

No it's not. We will crush them

[thebandit27]

There are no gimmies in the NFL.

 

That said, unless Miami’s safeties and LBs are prepared to handle their business in coverage, it could be a long day. I would bet that they’re going to try to man up against Diggs and Brown with Howard and Jones, which means Beasley, Knox, and the backs get zone matchups that Allen should be able to exploit with the extra time in the pocket.

 

Unless Miami chooses to blitz, in which case that’s where a guy with the short area quickness of Beasley is so valuable. Without LB help underneath, he’s going to put most slot corners through the meat grinder. Same goes for Knox—if you don’t bracket him, he can get over the top on you and use his size.

 

Defensively, Parker better be healthy, otherwise I don’t see anyone that’s a threat to get open consistently in man coverage. Also, I think their OL is still a weak point, which is more of a problem for them in the run game than passing since Fitzy can quick trigger, but only if guys are open.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[eball]

34 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

It’s either piss poor preparation or an inability to get the players to take it seriously

 

Neither of which speak well to the "awesome" job everyone says Flores is doing.

[whatdrought]

4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

the recipe for meth?

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[whatdrought]

Not sure where this narrative that the Dolphins are great cause they were more competitive than people thought they'd be last year... They played better than absolute garbage. We expected them to struggle to win one game, they won like 4 or 5... I'm not sure it's proof that they're so well coached. 

 

 

Does anyone know if Jones spent much time covering Brown during the Cowgirls game last year? Brown was relatively held in check that game.

[gordong]

5 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

7 of the 10 folks I’m in a Pick ‘em League with are taking the Dolphins straight up to win. 

What do they know that I don’t?😳

 

 Nothing, they are blinded by thinking the Pats are still THE Team in the east. and they think because it was a close game they are better than they are. 

[Buffalo Junction]

15 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Neither of which speak well to the "awesome" job everyone says Flores is doing.

People tend to forget that coaching a bad team to a respectable record is a different challenge than beating good teams... For all we know Flores could just be this times Dick Jauron. 

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, gordong said:

 

 Nothing, they are blinded by thinking the Pats are still THE Team in the east. and they think because it was a close game they are better than they are. 

 

A Pats WR also fumbled the ball out of the end zone for a touchback, instead of a touchdown.... that score seems like it was about as reflective of the game as ours was against the Jets.

[whatdrought]

25 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

People tend to forget that coaching a bad team to a respectable record is a different challenge than beating good teams... For all we know Flores could just be this times Dick Jauron. 

 

Not even sure I'd wish that on Dolphins fans... Wait... I would. 

[Putin]

12 hours ago, Luka said:

This is going to be a squishing of the fish that we have not witnessed in some time.

Man I hope you’re right !! 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Fan in Chicago]

4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Polarizing QB ? That is mostly outside the Bills mafia with "analysts" trying to save face for being blatantly wrong about Allen. Who wants to admit their takes on the "right" and "wrong" Josh? 

As it stands right now, Jackson and Allen were the best picks in the vaunted draft class

[Putin]

2 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Not sure where this narrative that the Dolphins are great cause they were more competitive than people thought they'd be last year... They played better than absolute garbage. We expected them to struggle to win one game, they won like 4 or 5... I'm not sure it's proof that they're so well coached. 

 

 

Does anyone know if Jones spent much time covering Brown during the Cowgirls game last year? Brown was relatively held in check that game.

I guess you didn’t get the memo ? 
According to a Big Time NFL expert Dolphins are expected to win the AFC East  !! 
 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Putin

[IDBillzFan]

11 hours ago, WideNine said:

I guess it was too much to hope that they would stay mired in mediocrity for a long spell under a new coach

 

All true, but the only thing that literally no one can determine right now is whether Tua will be their franchise quarterback.

 

Now, I know there are more than our fair share of Bills fans who are certain Tua will (a) be successful or (b) be a bust, but no one really knows how he will respond when his time has come. Will he stay healthy? If he is successful, how long it will take for his success to be consistent? Two years? Three?

 

We're watching three highly-rated top QB draft picks crap the bed right now in Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen. 

 

Point being, they can have a really good new head coach, but if the Tua pick doesn't pan out, they're set back pretty badly. Think about the state of the Jets or Browns if they wake up at the end of this season and realize they need a new QB. That remains a possibility for the Fish.

[C.Biscuit97]

2 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Not sure where this narrative that the Dolphins are great cause they were more competitive than people thought they'd be last year... They played better than absolute garbage. We expected them to struggle to win one game, they won like 4 or 5... I'm not sure it's proof that they're so well coached. 

 

 

Does anyone know if Jones spent much time covering Brown during the Cowgirls game last year? Brown was relatively held in check that game.

Yeah, they were one of the worst rosters in nfl history to start the year but they were feisty with Fitz.  I think they are headed in the right direction unfortunately and if Tua is healthy, they will be a really tough team.

 

but currently, there are still one of their worst rosters in the nfl.  This should be a comfortable victory. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[syhuang]