ganesh Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, ColeB said: Wouldn’t it be refreshing to start off the game with a bomb to Diggs for a TD? From John Brown....that would be a shocker !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Why hasn’t this thread died yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Augie said: I’m curious on whether Vegas has odds on if someone beats you to it with their “I’m done with this team and I’m never coming back” thread. I wish those people would live up to their promises. It’s a huge year for both Daboll and Josh. I hope they can relax and just keep making progress. The same is true for McD. He’s still a fairly new HC, and he admits he needs to keep improving. I like what I see in our future. If they did mods would take the under and kick them out and collect the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: If they did mods would take the under and kick them out and collect the money. Well, just consider it fair wages for a job well done. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Nextmanup said: How will we know that Daboll is the one not performing, as opposed to the players? Because we have the offensive talent to succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Charles Romes said: I agree that the jury is still out on Daboll, though it’s fair to say that when Kelvin Benjamin and Zay Jones are your 1 and 2, you have been given little to work with. I actually think Allen has carried Daboll to this point. The OC and WR coach who were involved in selection of Zay Jones were canned. Bad choice of OC and WR. 40 minutes ago, Virgil said: Why hasn’t this thread died yet? Because some posters add inept questions. Thank you for answering your own question. P.S. if that was supposed to be funny you need to put an enomi in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The play worked. The execution is what sucked. Sometimes you have to look on the field not in the booth. That was a good call. The play didn’t work. The play works if it is successful or even sets up another play later. I always look on the field first to see if execution was the issue. A coaches number one job is to put their players in a position to succeed. This includes training, practice, plays called, and personnel. Daboll failed by having the wrong personnel running the wrong route. The reason DiMarco was open because the odds favored he couldn’t catch the ball. It’s like leaving a center in basketball open to take the three pointer while you cover the guys who can shoot from the perimeter. Look, I got on board having Daboll back. For Josh’s development it could be the best thing. I hope Daboll was limited by personnel and Josh’s development, both things I believe have seen progress. Time to show it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: The play didn’t work. The play works if it is successful or even sets up another play later. I always look on the field first to see if execution was the issue. A coaches number one job is to put their players in a position to succeed. This includes training, practice, plays called, and personnel. Daboll failed by having the wrong personnel running the wrong route. The reason DiMarco was open because the odds favored he couldn’t catch the ball. It’s like leaving a center in basketball open to take the three pointer while you cover the guys who can shoot from the perimeter. Look, I got on board having Daboll back. For Josh’s development it could be the best thing. I hope Daboll was limited by personnel and Josh’s development, both things I believe have seen progress. Time to show it. DiMarco WASN'T open. That was the point. He was double covered. The play worked because DiMarco and Smith attracted 4 defenders. Josh got impatient and chucked it up into double coverage rather than wait another split second when John Brown finally got free. Brown and Allen were the problem on that play, not Daboll or DiMarco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekking Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 The line two years ago and receivers last year were not helping. But they were also not reasons why Gore would run for negative yardage down after down forcing Allen to be a hero. Singletary in the same games was unstoppable, but Daboll wouldn’t call it. The regression of Allen’s deep ball I also think has more to do with Daboll than Allen himself. He self neutered the biggest threat the QB had, which made everything else harder since teams didn’t respect it anymore. New receivers will help here, but only if they call the plays and take the risks. Not hand off to Gore for negative two yards down after down. I agree, his excuses are gone. His roster is loaded. Guy can know everything but he needs to make his offense effective and time to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 So, who should we bring in for Daboll after this travesty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, Virgil said: So, who should we bring in for Daboll after this travesty? I'm not doing anything at the moment. In my favour, I do know what a running back is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Does Allen have flexibility on the play call at the line? No way should be running this much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Up 21 driving down the field why is Daboll running Allen instead of the runningbacks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Up 21 driving down the field why is Daboll running Allen instead of the runningbacks he can’t resist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Virgil said: Why hasn’t this thread died yet? Dooooomed! 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, GG said: Does Allen have flexibility on the play call at the line? No way should be running this much. I’m sure he does as he’s checked in and out of plays in the first half, but most of his running plays have been read options and you literally have to wait til post snap to decide whether to keep it or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Brian Daboll has always sucked as an NFL OC. That has not changed. He ***** sucks. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I'll just put it this way---21 point lead, near the goal, would Andy Reid continue to run his QB ? Daboll is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 We jumped out to an early lead, moved the ball at will, and cruised to an easy win. Obviously Daboll must be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Up 21 driving down the field why is Daboll running Allen instead of the runningbacks Funny Belichick did the same thing and people are calling it an amazing thing to do and genius... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 So.....1-0....is Debol still on the hot seat? Just ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 His seat cooled off considerably. He had several great play calls that were poorly executed. He did the best he could with what was working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Daboll can be frustrating but the QB essentially just let the ball go when trying to break his fall after getting hit..... Yea I’d stop the QB sweep plays for a while. Well did me draft him to be a RB or a QB---maybe he should not run him so much---he plays every offensive snap--maybe he's tires when Dabass calls these plays. If you don't have faith in your running backs then get some new ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: We jumped out to an early lead, moved the ball at will, and cruised to an easy win. Obviously Daboll must be fired. we scored 3 points in the 2nd half.... Allen is to blame also but our offense still looks bang average. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) The only play call that I didn't like was the option play in the 1st quarter.... Pending watching film. Edited September 13, 2020 by Mr. K Process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: So.....1-0....is Debol still on the hot seat? Just ridiculous I'm not sure---check back if the Bills end up 8-8 because Dadoll kept using Allen as a running back instead of a QB----I think we drafted him to be a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It’s tough to complain about an OC when the team was in the red zone....NINE times I think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just now, Crayola64 said: It’s tough to complain about an OC when the team was in the red zone....NINE times I think. And put up 407 yards and 27 points. If that's AVERAGE, then look out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 So far the hotseat meter is starting to shift toward Penfield45 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I had missed this thread. Ha ha, some of you are very hard to please. It was a great gameplan. I feel like sometimes he runs out of ideas by the 3rd quarter but still, solid plays. So far I've only watched two games (doh!), this home and first half of Chiefs-Texans, and plays are sharp and varied. Who needs preseason? The only dumb thing concerning Daboll today, and it obviously is likely not his choice, is him wearing a mask while sitting by himself! WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: I'm not sure---check back if the Bills end up 8-8 because Dadoll kept using Allen as a running back instead of a QB----I think we drafted him to be a QB. I was not happy about that at all but for game one.....I think the OC is safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, 1st&ten said: I'll just put it this way---21 point lead, near the goal, would Andy Reid continue to run his QB ? Daboll is an idiot. I mean have you never watched Allen? He's incredibly dangerous in the red zone running it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 So while I agree the QB sweep om which the 2nd fumble happened was a dumb call at that point (run Moss into the line twice and kick the FG - hopefully!) Josh still shouldn't have fumbled it and the reason we ran Josh so much is that our running backs sucked. The Jets defensive front does stop the conventional run game really well, it is the thing they do best.... but the concern some of us have had when drafting Singletary and Moss is neither have elite speed. Holes against good dlines close quickly and neither of our backs was hitting them fast enough today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just now, John from Riverside said: I was not happy about that at all but for game one.....I think the OC is safe Well JRB I know your a very knowledge poster, but the Bills are never going to progress or win a SB if they keep counting on Josh to run the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, 1st&ten said: Well JRB I know your a very knowledge poster, but the Bills are never going to progress or win a SB if they keep counting on Josh to run the ball. Well someone needs to be able to run it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean have you never watched Allen? He's incredibly dangerous in the red zone running it in. Yes I've watched Allen---I've watched most Billls game since 1965. How many good QB's have we had in that time. We have a 21 point led---we don't need to risk Allen to injury--we need to see what the other guys can do. He also needs practice at throwing the ball in the red zone area. My question to you is what do you rate our chances as if Allen goes out for the season ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Well someone needs to be able to run it.... Well we should kill our franchise QB that we've waited 20 yrs to get ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, 1st&ten said: Well we should kill our franchise QB that we've waited 20 yrs to get ?? Some of that is on Josh to protect himself. If you want a QB who doesn't run then you are going to be disappointed. Josh is always going to. It is who he is and it is part of his arsenal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Some of that is on Josh to protect himself. If you want a QB who doesn't run then you are going to be disappointed. Josh is always going to. It is who he is and it is part of his arsenal. No. He’s mobile and can escape but he is not a running QB and they continue to try to use him as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 All the designed QB runs need to be minimized. If need be, McD needs to step in and tell Daboll to knock it off...and while he is at it, tell Allen once again that ball security is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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