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  1. 1. Who will be the highest profile offensive player that will not make the 53 man roster?

  2. 2. Who will be the highest profile defensive player that will not make the 53 man roster?


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The only way Spencer Long doesn’t make it is likely a trade rather than a cut in my opinion and same with Trent Murphy. 

 

I don’t believe Duke Williams will make the roster, simply too much depth at receiver and Isaiah McKenzie will also have an uphill battle. 

 

I didn’t cast a vote because I think all 5 of those defensive players make the roster. A lot of these guys would only be cut for nothing other than cap space purposes — but we have the cap space and therefor don’t really need to cut many of these guys. 

 

If I were to cast a vote, I would go with Isaiah McKenzie and EJ Gaines. I’m an advocate for McKenzie to make the roster but I think ultimately Andre Roberts takes his roster spot due to the return ability. 

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I went with Duke Williams as the 10 if you include TEs will be Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Knox, Kroft, Sweeney, Smith. Then you add Roberts for returns, McKenzie for gadget plays, and Davis.  If by some long shot Hodges shines which will be tough then McKenzie gets axed.

 

On the defense, it’s probably Murphy as they save $8 mil. that can along with the $20 mil. In cap space extend probably Dawkins and Milano.  They wait on White til next years off season.  They manage their cap well, and Murphy was hurt for the better part of two years.  Besides there is now a lot of depth on the D Line in Butler, Addison, Jefferson, Star, H. Phillips, Hughes, and Epenesa. They could keep Murphy, and cut the others, but Murphy is the better financial decision.

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I picked DeMarco for the offence--I think the un-drafted FA from Toledo will take his place, but I also do not see how Duke makes it with draft kids, and I think we've seen the last of Lee Smith as a Bill.

 

On D, I just a have a feeling that Norman is washed up. He certainly has done little the past few years, not sure a change of scenery helps him

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Disagree on those who think Norman won't make it. I think he has something left and I think he will end up as a starter. 

 

I hope you're right, but I don't have the same level of confidence you do about it.

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1 hour ago, CSBill said:

I picked DeMarco for the offence--I think the un-drafted FA from Toledo will take his place, but I also do not see how Duke makes it with draft kids, and I think we've seen the last of Lee Smith as a Bill.

 

On D, I just a have a feeling that Norman is washed up. He certainly has done little the past few years, not sure a change of scenery helps him

 

I hope you're right, but I don't have the same level of confidence you do about it.


Lee Smith is the proverbial bad penny.  He keeps coming back.

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I honestly think Duke ends up being cut as the two WR's we drafted (Davis/Hodgins) are younger, signed for the long term, can fill the same role, and have upside. Foster may likely be sent packing as well. I think a trade of a player or two along the OL is more likely than just an outright cut, similar to what we did with Bodine last year. On the defensive side it's hard to say. Norman was great in this scheme in Carolina, not so much in Man responsibilities in Washington. EJ Gaines was really good in this defense in 2017, but has a long list of injuries over his career and can't seem to stay healthy. Wallace seemed to get burnt on a regular basis last season, especially on 3rd downs. It's hard to say because you know our staff loves "their guys", but in this instance they are all "their guys" in one way or another. Dimarco is a waste of space so I wouldn't mind seeing him go as well, but he and Murphy are two of McD's faves as well as Lee "Back it up 5 yards" Smith. 

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I dont know and didn't vote.  But I gotta say that's a list of good players, and some of them will have to go.  

 

I remember being excited when Gaines came back, and I will be sad to see him go.  If he's cut, it means Norman still can play, and if that's true the Bill's have some outstanding corners.  

 

I'm a Duke fan but I think he is in trouble, and maybe McKenzie. Versatility may save McKenzie. 

 

Gotta figure Johnson stays over Murphy.  

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12 hours ago, jwhit34 said:

Who will be the most notable cuts on offense and defense?

 

I think EJ gets traded if he and Norman and Wallace all have good camps.  EJ has the injury bug, we need availability, and some team with a CB injury would trade for EJ.  

 

On offense, I'm not sure any of the cuts would surprise me.  

 

As much as Murphy is overpaid, I'd keep him because if there are injuries, he is a fantastic backup/rotational guy.  

 

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11 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

Duke Williams wouldn't be a high profile cut. He's one of the obvious ones. A bottom of the roster WR, who doesn't play special teams, has achieved very little in the NFL and who had multiple players drafted at his position. 

apparently you don't follow this board much.

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11 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

Duke Williams wouldn't be a high profile cut. He's one of the obvious ones. A bottom of the roster WR, who doesn't play special teams, has achieved very little in the NFL and who had multiple players drafted at his position. 

I agree with you I included him in the poll because of his popularity here, was interested to see the response. 

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What’s high profile about any of these players?

Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Daryll Johnson has to be a cut - He is an UDFA, and we have a ton of DEs in front of him.  Maybe he'll beat out Trent, but I doubt it.  

He was a draft pick 

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I have no true idea of course, like any of us here, but to me Beane's comments after the season about player evaluation and not just looking at the Texans' game, was directly linked to Murphy. I don't know if he gets cut or traded for a 6th(ish) but I do think he and an Offensive lineman go the way of a trade somewhere in training camp. Although I chose Lee Smith as the guy to go because with Kroft healthy, and the need to mature Knox and Sweeney, I just don't see the need of having a Smith in the TE room. Moreover, I was tempted with DiMarco, but once again it will be a young RB room without a guy like Gore, and given DiMarco's Vet presence as one of the few in the position group McD and Beane might just value such a presence over what he actually does on the field. 

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15 hours ago, elijah said:

The only way Spencer Long doesn’t make it is likely a trade rather than a cut in my opinion and same with Trent Murphy. 

 

I don’t believe Duke Williams will make the roster, simply too much depth at receiver and Isaiah McKenzie will also have an uphill battle. 

 

I didn’t cast a vote because I think all 5 of those defensive players make the roster. A lot of these guys would only be cut for nothing other than cap space purposes — but we have the cap space and therefor don’t really need to cut many of these guys. 

 

If I were to cast a vote, I would go with Isaiah McKenzie and EJ Gaines. I’m an advocate for McKenzie to make the roster but I think ultimately Andre Roberts takes his roster spot due to the return ability. 

 

Andre Roberts has a locked down spot.  He's not competing with Isaiah McKensie.  Isaiah is competing with our newly drafted rookies and Robert Foster, who is another guy who may not earn a spot - in fact due to his willingness to "pinch hit" at DB or just do whatever, McKensie may have a leg up.

 

I'd like to see the NFL expand the roster due to covid and all those guys make it.

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1 hour ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said:

apparently you don't follow this board much.

Duke is our underdog, but who is our sweet Polly purebred? That’s what I want to know... 

 

When was the last time we debated about so many quality players that might get moved?  Its been a while. 
BB will turn them into future trade / draft capital. 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

Duke Williams wouldn't be a high profile cut. He's one of the obvious ones. A bottom of the roster WR, who doesn't play special teams, has achieved very little in the NFL and who had multiple players drafted at his position. 

I cant say beyond the Titans game, but I saw with my own eyes Duke on Kickoff team. Like I said, I dont know if he played more ST then that. 

 

Also I will out on a limb and say all of them will make the team.

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I don’t see them cutting Long.  He has a lot of experience starting at Center and G for not just the Bills, but also the Jets.  With as many injuries as O Lineman are at risk, he is an asset, and cutting him only brings around $2 mil. Given the $700,000 dead cap hit.  The others mentioned like Williams, Foster, etc. are not going to be able to compete with long term cheap depth answers in Davis and Hodges, and they are taller, but faster than Williams.  Some might be right on McD liking Murphy, I just don’t think he’s worth the $8 mil. when we have so many other options for rotations.  It wasn’t until the Jets and playoff game where he had two sacks in each game.

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15 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Why don't we just teach Duke how to play TE.

Cut Smith

Because there's nothing like being a physical wide receiver and being a tight end.

 

Lee Smith is honestly 270 280 lb, probably plays closer to 300. Duke has never put his hand in the ground once or been inline. Which tight ends are asked to do at least 70%

 

He is a wide receiver not a tight end by any stretch. He just isn't big enough and doesn't have the skill set

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18 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Why is Foster not on the 'O' list?  ?

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For me, he isn't on the list because there will be nothing surprising if he's cut.  It won't be a high-profile cut.

 

Foster was an undrafted free agent, which says something about the talent he brings to the table.  He's now competing against established NFL starters (Diggs, Beasley, Brown), drafted rookies (Hodgins and Davis), an entrenched punt and kick returner (Roberts), a useful gadget player (McKenzie), and a guy who's talented merit being drafted but who had off-field issues (Williams).  Other than being an effective gunner, it's hard to see how Foster can earn a place on the team.  

 

The same analysis applies to Williams, only a little less so.  Williams has draftable talent, but he'll have to offer a clearly higher upside than Hodgins and Davis.  They both may be possession receivers who could be as valuable as Williams, and Davis apparently has decent deep speed.  

 

All Foster has to offer is speed. Of course, if you're coming to the NFL with only thing in your toolkit, speed may be the best thing to bring (hello, Christian Wade). But with Diggs and Brown starting, and with Roberts and McKenzie, Foster's speed alone probably doesn't help him. 

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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

All Foster has to offer is speed. Of course, if you're coming to the NFL with only thing in your toolkit, speed may be the best thing to bring (hello, Christian Wade). But with Diggs and Brown starting, and with Roberts and McKenzie, Foster's speed alone probably doesn't help him. 

My facetious question was based more upon the haranguing seen in the forum that Foster was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and failure to realize that made all of the rest of us dummies.  ?  Your answer, sir, was a well reasoned reply as to why he rightfully didn't make this thread's listing.

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On 6/16/2020 at 6:35 PM, John from Riverside said:

If they just cut Spencer Long....he will be out of work for about a day

Cutting Long would be crazy. If you can get a draft pick for Russell Bodine, who was realistically at best the 30th best starting Center. Then Long, who shown moments of being semi capable would definitely get one. Or Wyatt Teller, who had basically done nothing and got a draft pick in return. 

 

Long will easily get you a 6th. Possibly higher to a desperate team

21 hours ago, letsgoteam said:

Also I will out on a limb and say all of them will make the team.

So who is getting cut instead? You're going to have to cut some notable players, the roster is too deep

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On 6/16/2020 at 10:51 PM, LABILLBACKER said:

Why don't we just teach Duke how to play TE.

Cut Smith

So instead of keeping an TE who has played in the league for years, you want to to take a WR in his late 20s who has done nothing in the league and turn him into a developmental TE? 

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8 minutes ago, Mountain Man said:

So instead of keeping an TE who has played in the league for years, you want to to take a WR in his late 20s who has done nothing in the league and turn him into a developmental TE? 

PS&E facing lean times.  Economize wherever you can.  ?

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7 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

My facetious question was based more upon the haranguing seen in the forum that Foster was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and failure to realize that made all of the rest of us dummies.  ?  Your answer, sir, was a well reasoned reply as to why he rightfully didn't make this thread's listing.

Sorry I missed the point. 

 

I'll be amazed if he survives the final cut. 

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