BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/09/david-carr-chides-jameis-winston-for-training-choices/amp/. I guess in some ways David has a point. I don’t think any NFL team goes after him to be honest, hasn’t really shown that’s he’s capable of being a starting QB in the NFL, especially after last year being a disaster for him Edited April 11, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Who is David Carr? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Winston will be signed somewhere. He is a hell of a more successful NFL QB than David Carr. 12 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Who do you think is gonna sign him? I am not sure but if you are telling me that there isn't a backup job out there for Jameis Winston then I disagree. Jacksonville makes some sense to me but he'd have to be willing to take a prove it smaller deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/09/david-carr-chides-jameis-winston-for-training-choices/amp/. I guess in some ways David has a point. I don’t think any NFL team goes after him to be honest, hasn’t really shown that’s he’s capable of being a starting QB in the NFL, especially after last year being a disaster for him Sure he had a crazy year last season, but he has 20k yards and 121 TDs in 70 starts. In the NFL, that's a starting QB easily. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Sure he had a crazy year last season, but he has 20k yards and 121 TDs in 70 starts. In the NFL, that's a starting QB easily. Minus those stats, he’s failed to get his team to the playoffs for 4 years in a row. Might now be a fair comparison but to me he’s Fitzpatrick with a stronger arm. He can easily be a career back up but I don’t see it for him as a starter. but that’s just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Minus those stats, he’s failed to get his team to the playoffs for 4 years in a row. Might now be a fair comparison but to me he’s Fitzpatrick with a stronger arm. He can easily be a career back up but I don’t see it for him as a starter. but that’s just my opinion Tyrod is starting this season presumably, I’d much rather go into a game with Famous than that bum under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 As I said before, I'd sign him for a reasonable deal to be Josh's backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Albany,n.y. Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Winston will be signed somewhere. He is a hell of a more successful NFL QB than David Carr. In reality, they have very similar career paths through their 1st 5 years. Primary starter for 5 years after being the #1 pick in the draft. Not wanted by his team after 5 seasons as their starting QB. Carr went on to be a backup and his career lasted a decade. Winston still has a shot of outdoing Carr, but to say Winston is that much better than Carr through their 1st 5 seasons just isn't true. There are a lot of teams that would be willing to bring in Winston as a backup if he is willing to accept a backup salary. My prediction: Pittsburgh. Edited April 11, 2020 by Albany,n.y. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Winston handeled it like a pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: In reality, they have very similar career paths through their 1st 5 years. Primary starter for 5 years after being the #1 pick in the draft. Not wanted by his team after 5 seasons as their starting QB. Carr went on to be a backup and his career lasted a decade. Winston still has a shot of outdoing Carr, but to say Winston is that much better than Carr through their 1st 5 seasons just isn't true. There are a lot of teams that would be willing to bring in Winston as a backup if he is willing to accept a backup salary. In Winston's worst year he threw more touchdown's than David Carr's best year. Winston threw more tds than ints every year in Tampa. Carr managed that only three times in Houston. Yes. Winston is a much better QB than Carr ever was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: Tyrod is starting this season presumably, I’d much rather go into a game with Famous than that bum under center. Well I think the chargers are looking at that a lot differently. Also I’d bet they’d sign cam over Winston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Who is David Carr? ..crab legs salesman??........... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 JW threw 30 ints last year. He was a starter, a horrible starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Minus those stats, he’s failed to get his team to the playoffs for 4 years in a row. Might now be a fair comparison but to me he’s Fitzpatrick with a stronger arm. He can easily be a career back up but I don’t see it for him as a starter. but that’s just my opinion His issues are well known. But he led the 3rd highest scoring Offense backing up the 29th worst Defense in points allowed. Prior to this year, his HC's were Lovie Smith's carcass and "Dirk Koetter" (or Kirk Doetter?). David Carr's brother is a starting QB, no playoffs. Stafford still a starter? 3 playoffs (3 games total) in 11 years. TT will start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Best QB coaches are normally terrible QBs. We post stuff from Jordan Palmer, Chris Sims, and Dan Orlovsky about Josh Allen like it's the only opinions that matter. It's not what you know. It's what you know and can apply within 2.5 seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Danny Kanell played in the NFL? I must have missed that week. Edited April 11, 2020 by JDubya76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 If Winston could get the picks under control, he never would have lost is job in the first place ... the guy has arm talent and is mobile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: If Winston could get the picks under control, he never would have lost is job in the first place ... the guy has arm talent and is mobile Did you know this? Peyton Manning threw 100 INTs his 1st 5 years in the NFL? 23 his 4th year. Winston has thrown 88. Manning only threw 53 INTs the next 5 years. Edited April 11, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure but if you are telling me that there isn't a backup job out there for Jameis Winston then I disagree. Jacksonville makes some sense to me but he'd have to be willing to take a prove it smaller deal. I guess it's just a question of whether he's willing to be backup over just sitting out. I wouldn't mind Winston as a backup. He definitely fits the mold of a "QB who won't lose half the games." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: His issues are well known. But he led the 3rd highest scoring Offense backing up the 29th worst Defense in points allowed. Prior to this year, his HC's were Lovie Smith's carcass and "Dirk Koetter" (or Kirk Doetter?). David Carr's brother is a starting QB, no playoffs. Stafford still a starter? 3 playoffs (3 games total) in 11 years. TT will start. I thought his brother did make the playoffs one year. The Raiders got knocked out the 1st round though if I remember correctly. Edited April 11, 2020 by Patrick_Duffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I guess it's just a question of whether he's willing to be backup over just sitting out. I wouldn't mind Winston as a backup. He definitely fits the mold of a "QB who won't lose half the games." I'm kind of hoping Winston sits out because he's a great option next year if Allen craps the bed this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: I thought his brother did make the playoffs one year. The Raiders got knocked out the 1st round though if I remember correctly. Derek didn't play in the playoffs. Got injured before they made it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm kind of hoping Winston sits out because he's a great option next year if Allen craps the bed this season. I bet they would draft someone. Not pay starter money to anyone in the meantime. Unless they could land a legit franchise QB Edited April 11, 2020 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: I thought his brother did make the playoffs one year. The Raiders got knocked out the 1st round though if I remember correctly. Raiders made it. Carr Injured with 2 games to go and doing for the season. Fun fact: Derrick Carr is #2 in NFL history with most losses in his first 6 seasons in the NFL. Who is #1 you ask? His brother, David Carr. Couple of bums. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Derek didn't play in the playoffs. Got injured before they made it there. Ahh ok, but didn't he have a pretty good season in which helped them get there? I know he hasn't really done much since but I thought he had a decent season that one year anyways? Edited April 11, 2020 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Ahh ok, but didn't he have a pretty good season in which helped them get there? I know he hasn't really done much since but I thought he had a decent season that one year anyways? He did you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Ahh ok, but didn't he have a pretty good season in which helped them get there? That was his one decent season. Bust Brothers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Winston will be signed somewhere. He is a hell of a more successful NFL QB than David Carr. Also throws a hell of a lot more passes to the wrong team too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 The women of Pittsburgh should be very afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Also throws a hell of a lot more passes to the wrong team too He still ends up with a positive differential. Carr was negative 3 of 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I realize it’s a pretty unpopular take but I legitimately love Winston’s game. And have since he was in college. I think he’s incredibly underrated and if given a shot in the right offense, could be special. If he’s going to be a backup somewhere, I’d absolutely love it in Buffalo. I know it won’t happen but I honestly think people are sleeping on him and id take him over either Carr in a heartbeat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I think they should shoot tennis balls at him instead like American Gladiator or maybe Jamies Winston should reach out to Uncle Rico, I heard they would have been state champs if they put him in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I realize it’s a pretty unpopular take but I legitimately love Winston’s game. And have since he was in college. I think he’s incredibly underrated and if given a shot in the right offense, could be special. If he’s going to be a backup somewhere, I’d absolutely love it in Buffalo. I know it won’t happen but I honestly think people are sleeping on him and id take him over either Carr in a heartbeat I love him because he is the most entertaining QB in the league to watch. Every snap is an adventure. I could watch Winston play all day and before when was the last time anyone thought Tampa were fun? I am not quite as high on him as you on a serious evaluation but I do think he is a little underrated. Edited April 11, 2020 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: His issues are well known. But he led the 3rd highest scoring Offense backing up the 29th worst Defense in points allowed. Prior to this year, his HC's were Lovie Smith's carcass and "Dirk Koetter" (or Kirk Doetter?). David Carr's brother is a starting QB, no playoffs. Stafford still a starter? 3 playoffs (3 games total) in 11 years. TT will start. Tampa Bays defense was bad in points allowed because ol crablegs gave the other team the ball inside the 40 2x per game. Their defense was low key very decent. PPG is not how you evaluate the defense of a team whose QB throws 30 picks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 All I can think of is he is training here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) It looks like a giant ball sack swinging towards Winston. Edited April 11, 2020 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I think most people would be better off if they stayed off social media. Who really gives a hairy rats ass what David Carr thinks. Get your own house in order before worrying about someone elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I’d rather have him as our backup than Barkley. No doubt about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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