DJB Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I hate players that wear #99, not sure why Lol How about the initials MD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Bobby Hooks said: A lot of guys there seem to think he was being underutilized and think McD will get the most out of him. That's true. He wasn't played partly because RR prioritized vets. But he was a first rounder he had chances on a good D and found himself behind Kyle Love. He just didn't look interested. Its completely fair to say he may be different here. But that contract doesn't reflect his career in the NFL up til now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: That's true. He wasn't played partly because RR prioritized vets. But he was a first rounder he had chances on a good D and found himself behind Kyle Love. He just didn't look interested. Its completely fair to say he may be different here. But that contract doesn't reflect his career in the NFL up til now. One guy said he was one of the only players that played with any fire. We’re you watching different game? A DT with those numbers don’t seem to back up your non-interest take. Edited March 18, 2020 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Didn't realize this is that guy... ? Stupid ass fans. Not once but twice someone threw something at him. I can't say I blame him for reacting that way. Honestly, I like the fire he showed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Not now, based on your own post of their boards. Yeah. Recency bias. Also some wanted him back (at a lot less) because they are ruining the comp picks signing scrubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Murphy may be in trouble... Also, would anyone else be unsurprised to see them try to move Hughes? Hughes didn’t play in Carolina. So yes he’s in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Seoulofstone said: Yeah. Recency bias. Also some wanted him back (at a lot less) because they are ruining the comp picks signing scrubs. Comp picks are the most overrated thing there is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Seoulofstone said: That's a bad signing. He was abysmal for 3 years then got 5 sacks in his contract year. Former first round pick. Maybe McD can get more effort from him. We are in a cap spot to take a few risks like that. The beauty of josh being cheap (plus tre, plus Edmonds) is that we can get about 5 guys that are risky with house money. Worst case he’s a fine enough but overpaid DT3. Best case we have a great rotation. and can get out of it easy if it goes badly, 3 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Yeah. Recency bias. Also some wanted him back (at a lot less) because they are ruining the comp picks signing scrubs. this was an offseason where we sign guys not lose guys. Comp picks weren’t a consideration with this cap space 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: One guy said he was one of the only players that played with any fire. We’re you watching different game? A DT with those numbers don’t seem to back up your non-interest take. Fans have their favorites. I'm not going to defend the opinions of one guy I don't know. Carolina ended the season with the 7th worst run D in the history of the NFL. How did that 340 lb run stuffer do? Its just my opinion as someone who watched the games. Its fine if you dislike it as someone who didn't. As a whole the D got very high sack numbers but they were a bad D. Edited March 18, 2020 by Seoulofstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Wow they are loading up to win this division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I remember when Butler was drafted and there was some buzz that he was a first round steal. I don't think he's quite been that but he'll fit in fine with the DL rotation. I love how almost every time they add to the DL a bunch of people on here are like, "That's it for Murphy! He done, snip snip muthatrucka, you cut!" He ain't an All-Pro but cutting him just creates another hole to fill. I'm also still unsure of the expectations some people have. Did they expect him to come in and rack up 15 sacks? Hell, can any of their DL rack up 15 sacks given that they all get somewhere between 40 and 60% of the snaps? This team really isn't about two or three superstar players that carry the rest of the crew, they're all about balance and having a well-rounded group that does their job and works to elevate each other. I just gotta laugh a bit when people lose it because Player A got $10 million a year but only got four or five sacks. I mean, these guys do get paid for more than just their on field performance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/as-quinton-jefferson-head-off-to-buffalo-are-seahawks-chances-of-keeping-jadeveon-clowney-getting-better/ "Many had assumed Jefferson would be back after a 2019 season when he was one of the team’s most dependable defensive linemen, and undoubtedly he will be missed." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: this was an offseason where we sign guys not lose guys. Comp picks weren’t a consideration with this cap space What a masterful job in creating room like this again to swing for bigger guys and not just roster filling. We still have room for another BIG player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I like the player and I half expected us to sign him, but that price tag does look a little heavy... maybe just playing to the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Didn't realize this is that guy... ? We've added attitude and mean streaks so far this off season. I kind of like it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: What a masterful job in creating room like this again to swing for bigger guys and not just roster filling. We still have room for another BIG player creating space is easy. Now time to see if he puts together a super bowl roster or not. That’s where the expectation is. I generally like where we are at and am eager to see where the rest of the assets go. SHOULD win the division and host a playoff game. Will see about if we can compete for a bye. 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I like the player and I half expected us to sign him, but that price tag does look a little heavy... maybe just playing to the market. shaq got 10/ for 3 years. he’s a fine player but not game breaking. Essentially a 1 year 9m with essentially a cheap team option to follow but also some incentives isn’t terrrrrrrible. Maybe a little heavy in pay but some perks in structure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Didn't realize this is that guy... ? Hey, that makes two-for-two on the ejections!! Edited March 18, 2020 by Lurker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Lurker said: Hey, that makes two-for-two on the ejections!! Seems as if Beane and McD believe they process is now self supporting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 This defense could absolutely be scary this year.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, RiotAct said: any Carolina connection?!!!? Dan Morgan, who played for Carolina, came from the Seattle FO to the Buffalo FO and likely played a role in the acquisition #6degreesofCarolina 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: It's just we already have a smaller DT in Oliver, Not sure pairing him with another small guy wise. Why wouldn't you be more pleased with his results than concerned about his weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Dan Morgan, who played for Carolina, came from the Seattle FO to the Buffalo FO and likely played a role in the acquisition #6degreesofCarolina who needs Kevin Bacon? I mean..I Need Bacon, but not Kevin Bacon! 1 minute ago, White Linen said: Why wouldn't you be more pleased with his results than concerned about his weight? attack mode! bring in Star and Butler on obvious run plays. not a bad gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NoSaint said: this was an offseason where we sign guys not lose guys. Comp picks weren’t a consideration with this cap space Sorry I was referring to Carolina not Buffalo regarding the comp picks. In the thread that's why some wanted Butler back. I hadn't expected any comps for Buffalo with all that cap space available. They usually come when you're tight to the cap. Edited March 18, 2020 by Seoulofstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, White Linen said: Why wouldn't you be more pleased with his results than concerned about his weight? I posted this before read we got Butler as saw this as DT signing so why I was concerned on size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Murphy may be in trouble... Also, would anyone else be unsurprised to see them try to move Hughes? I'd be surprised on Hughes. He still played at a high level despite the sip in sacks and he's only getting 10 mil per. He's talented enough to get 10+ sacks , pressure and solid vs run. Murphy definitely looks like he's in trouble. 8 mil back , limited dead cap 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I rather have Jordan Phillips back I tend to agree. For comparison, Does anyone know how much AZ is paying Phillips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 this kid had intangibles coming out. now he has 4 years of experience. what was once considered a 1st round project is now a solid pickup.Beane was there for that pick. sneaky good signing! Bow to the Wizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 years , 13.5 million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said: I tend to agree. For comparison, Does anyone know how much AZ is paying Phillips? 3 yrs, 30 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 bull rush by Vernon. Oliver gets 1 on 1 with speed. plausable destruction. good signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 If we could swing 9 mil on a marginal guy we couldn't swing 11 mil on Hooper? Who will contribute more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, papazoid said: move Oliver to DE ? Wow. There's an idea. If he could handle the edge, that would be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, BigBillsFan said: If we could swing 9 mil on a marginal guy we couldn't swing 11 mil on Hooper? Who will contribute more? Dawson Knox in his 2nd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 That’s a good signing. Very solid player comparable to Phillips. Good 2 year deal at fair value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Needed some nastiness. Just now, Reks Ryan said: That’s a good signing. Very solid player comparable to Phillips. Good 2 year deal at fair value Better than Phillips overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Someone is betting on Butler. DL coach Washington must love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Needed some nastiness. Better than Phillips overall. Hope you’re right. I’m a big fan of Phillips, so it’s meant as a compliment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: nice deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Hmmm with how this offseason seems to be shaping up. I expect the Draft to be heavy on Offense I hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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