BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Was wondering what your guys reaction would’ve been if we had taken Rosen instead of Allen. I love Allen and was very happy that we took him, never liked Rosen in college as he reminded me too much of Cutler and Jeff George without the rocket arm. I think personally it would’ve set us back if we’d made that move. Thoughts?? Edited February 24, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 At the moment? Thrilled, because that's what the media, pundits, and highlight reel told me was the correct pick As of today? A total 180 and am more than happy to be wrong, and I know this sentiment is shared with many others here 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Is this a serious question? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BuffaninATL said: Is this a serious question? More of curiosity than anything, wanted to know what some fans reactions are now as opposed to last year, I know some Fans weren’t happy we took Allen over Rosen, hence the whole we took the wrong josh lol Edited February 24, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Wasn't mad we took Allen over Rosen, but at the time I thought we could have stayed put for Allen @ #13. I was wrong as the reports came out that other teams were prepared to take him before us @ #13. I didn't think Rosen would show as badly as he has thus far though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I would likely feel excited .. because we would have a new coach and be drafting a new QB as we would have been horrible and McDermott would I imagine have been fired. I was always excited when we started over because there was a chance. I would also be kicking myself because we missed out on Mahommes, and Watson, and that Josh Allen kid, but I would be hoping that our new QB would be able to finally change all of that. So ... happy we went against the crowd and chose Allen over Rosen. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, H2o said: Wasn't mad we took Allen over Rosen, but at the time I thought we could have stayed put for Allen @ #13. I was wrong as the reports came out that other teams were prepared to take him before us @ #13. I didn't think Rosen would show as badly as he has thus far though. Yeah I think it was rumored that Arizona and and couple others were looking at Allen, can’t remember who the other teams were but I know Arizona really wanted him and afterwords they settled on Rosen cause they needed a QB desperately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 well, this is an impossible question to answer really. Where does Allen end up. If he's in Miami, he likely is not as good as he is here. In fact, Rosen probably looks better than Allen (I'd say Darnold level). If he went to Arizona, that would be interesting because does the new regime keep him? If so, he is prob lighting it up with the WR tools there. Just impossible to tell. Situation matters so much. But I will say this: I am very glad we have Allen. Did not want him pre-draft due to his accuracy issues, which still plague him, but he compensates for it in other ways, and I expect the accuracy to improve once we have better receivers for him (a Hooper/Knox, combo with a great draft pick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills8323 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Gotta swallow my pride here. Thought Rosen was gonna be our guy leading up to the draft based on a lot of articles/film etc, and where I thought the other QB's would go. I truly didnt see us getting Allen. Thought trade up could be in play for Darnold/ Baker (whoever didnt go 1). With that being said I couldnt be happier. I knew very little about Allen but I can say confidently I wouldnt want any other QB from that draft class representing Buffalo. Allen is a class act who will give his all every play of every game. Hard to root against that. I would love for Allen to be the one to bring Buffalo the super bowl and win it. How could you not? Guy represents everything Buffalo is. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I wanted Rosen and was disappointed when Allen’s name was called. Now I am of course very happy with the outcome. I still think Rosen can be good; being bounced around to different bad teams isn’t helping but neither is his supposed attitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, bills8323 said: Gotta swallow my pride here. Thought Rosen was gonna be our guy leading up to the draft based on a lot of articles/film etc, and where I thought the other QB's would go. I truly didnt see us getting Allen. Thought trade up could be in play for Darnold/ Baker (whoever didnt go 1). With that being said I couldnt be happier. I knew very little about Allen but I can say confidently I wouldnt want any other QB from that draft class representing Buffalo. Allen is a class act who will give his all every play of every game. Hard to root against that. I would love for Allen to be the one to bring Buffalo the super bowl and win it. How could you not? Guy represents everything Buffalo is. Exactly, he reminds me a lot about Kelly. The toughness and competitiveness that he has reminds me of Kelly. Even some throws he makes as well. Is he perfect absolutely not but he is young and has a very high ceiling. One and only New York team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) I would have been pissed. I told everyone Rosen was the worst of the top 6 QBs in that draft. He has all of Cutler and Jeff George’s flaws without their arm talent. My board on draft night was Baker, Allen, Darnold, Lamar, Mason, Rosen. Only guy I was willing to trade up for was Allen (Baker and Darnold were never going to be available in a trade up as it was obvious they were going 1 and 3). I also said, don’t mortgage too much in a trade. Better to stay put and take Lamar than give you multiple firsts to go up into top 5. So when Beane made the trade up to 7 I loved it as it got us his guy and the guy I wanted without trading both first round picks or any future ones. Edited February 24, 2020 by Alphadawg7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I'd feel bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 He was the one i had hoped the Bills would take only because of his college career & that goes to show you why a fan should never be allowed to choose players on a NFL roster . That being said we all have seen what changing coaches & offensive schemes can do for the development of a young NFL QB it just doesn't work ! The Bills due to some of the same type of things Rosen has had to endure have had their fair share of young QB's that may have done better with a bit more stability but didn't because of change . Losmen, EJ, just to name a few maybe could have had better NFL careers with ore stability around them (oh & a attitude adjustment) for the one !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 How would you guys have felt if we took Darnold over Rosen? That’s the real question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Why does this thread exist? Hasn’t this horse been beaten already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 This question is like when someone says, "This taste like crap try it". But to answer your question....I would feel like some who tasted something that tasted like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Never liked Rosen. I thought he was a head case and didn't want that. Now, after seeing what he has gone though, I feel bad for the guy. He got a crap offensive line in Arizona and thrown to the wolves. Then, he gets traded to "Tank for Tua" Miami where they went w/ Fitzmagic over him. He's probably damaged good by now, who knows how he could have done behind a decent Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: How would you guys have felt if we took Darnold over Rosen? That’s the real question. I think we will all be able to answer that question this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, BuffaloMatt said: I think we will all be able to answer that question this time next year. What if we took Jackson over Rosen? Same response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, hjnick said: Never liked Rosen. I thought he was a head case and didn't want that. Now, after seeing what he has gone though, I feel bad for the guy. He got a crap offensive line in Arizona and thrown to the wolves. Then, he gets traded to "Tank for Tua" Miami where they went w/ Fitzmagic over him. He's probably damaged good by now, who knows how he could have done behind a decent Oline. If I’m a team with an aging QB I’d consider trading a 5th for him as a reclamation project and see if he can quietly improve and be a bridge QB down the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 He was the guy I wanted. I would’ve been happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 50 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Was wondering what your guys reaction would’ve been if we had taken Rosen instead of Allen. I love Allen and was very happy that we took him, never liked Rosen in college as he reminded me too much of Cutler and Jeff George without the rocket arm. I think personally it would’ve set us back if we’d made that move. Thoughts?? Shirley, you jest. We got the right Josh IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 At the Broncos game in 2017 someone wore a Bills jersey with Darnold roughly customized on the back and I had to explain to my wife that is probably who we’ll be drafting at QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Real question is: Why are we still talking about next years XFL QB in Rosen? He was never close to being a Bill even. Beane didn’t even have him on his board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: If I’m a team with an aging QB I’d consider trading a 5th for him as a reclamation project and see if he can quietly improve and be a bridge QB down the road. There is obvious potent with him. I think it will just come down to if he really gets a shot. I personally think Dallas should trade Dak to Miami for 2 first rounds picks and Josh Rosen. Then dallas can get a journeyman for next year, draft another qb in this class and see which one pans out behind the veteran QB. Dak is asking for crazy money for a glorified busdriver, IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 It makes me happy that we have guys in charge who actually know what they're doing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Real question is: Why are we still talking about next years XFL QB in Rosen? He was never close to being a Bill even. Beane didn’t even have him on his board. Whoa! Rosen wasn't on Beane's board? Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Real question is: Why are we still talking about next years XFL QB in Rosen? He was never close to being a Bill even. Beane didn’t even have him on his board. Well per the photo of the whiteboard, he was on the board, but it looks like he wasn't in the first round. They were willing to trade up to Den at #5 (for #12, 22 & 53) to get 1> Allen 2> Darnald 3> Mayfield But Rosen was their first runner-up at #4 but not on a tradup to #5. Which of course didn't happen since Denver got their player to fall to them and we had to trade at 7. LAMAR JACKSON was the one not on their board as we had just gotten rid of Tyrod Taylor. #4 Rosen #5 Okl. St. Lamotta? #6 Richmond Edited February 24, 2020 by Mark Long Beach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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unbillievable Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 The thread title hurts my brain. took? ...and I would have taken Brady in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 In all fairness to Rosen, he’s been in two really poor situation. He had a lot of talent coming into the draft...I kinda feel badly for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Thank God we arent the GM. We would still be mired in mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Long Beach said: Well per the photo of the whiteboard, he was on the board, but it looks like he wasn't in the first round. They were willing to trade up to Den at #5 (for #12, 22 & 53) to get 1> Allen 2> Darnald 3> Mayfield But Rosen was their first runner-up at #4 but not on a tradup to #5. Which of course didn't happen since Denver got their player to fall to them and we had to trade at 7. That’s what I mean, Rosen was never in play for the Bills. They were not taking him over any of the other guys who would be there. And they were never passing in taking a QB in the first. So Rosen was never close to being a Bill. Why are we still talking about him? He’s not even a relevant player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Was wondering what your guys reaction would’ve been if we had taken Rosen instead of Allen. I love Allen and was very happy that we took him, never liked Rosen in college as he reminded me too much of Cutler and Jeff George without the rocket arm. I think personally it would’ve set us back if we’d made that move. Thoughts?? I thought then and think now that Rosen will have the more fruitful professional career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I was never a fan of Rosen's, and I've been glad we didn't take him from the moment we didn't take him. That being said, IMO, Rosen is still an unknown commodity, as far as his NFL career is concerned. I can't remember another QB having been set up to fail to the degree Rosen has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 47 minutes ago, T master said: He was the one i had hoped the Bills would take only because of his college career & that goes to show you why a fan should never be allowed to choose players on a NFL roster . That being said we all have seen what changing coaches & offensive schemes can do for the development of a young NFL QB it just doesn't work ! The Bills due to some of the same type of things Rosen has had to endure have had their fair share of young QB's that may have done better with a bit more stability but didn't because of change . Losmen, EJ, just to name a few maybe could have had better NFL careers with ore stability around them (oh & a attitude adjustment) for the one !! Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t remember Losman having an attitude problem. I remember he really loved Buffalo and even showed by buying a house there and living in Buffalo during his time with the Bills, EJ definitely had an attitude problem and was not a team guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, JimKellyTryouts said: At the moment? Thrilled, because that's what the media, pundits, and highlight reel told me was the correct pick As of today? A total 180 and am more than happy to be wrong, and I know this sentiment is shared with many others here This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 When McDermott took over, Allen was the QB he wanted in the 2018 draft. He passed on Mahomes in 2017 because he wanted Allen in 2018. Rosen was NEVER on McBeane's (once Beane came aboard) mind. Allen was number one and Darnold was number two. Now the Bills need to complete the offensive process with this offseason and make Allen's job, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE, not to be a one man gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: More of curiosity than anything, wanted to know what some fans reactions are now as opposed to last year, I know some Fans weren’t happy we took Allen over Rosen, hence the whole we took the wrong josh lol I am open that I was a “Wrong Josh”er. I also thought the whole starting QB/OL/WR situation was pretty badly mishandled in 2018 offseason and it’s a major reason why I still have “???” In my mind about ultimately how successful McDermott and Beane will be. Beane seemed to be expecting Santa Margherita Pinot Grigio performance on a “Two Buck Chuck” budget. I decided we got the “right Josh” after watching them both play in the last handful of 2018 games. They were both playing under tough circumstances, but one was clearly a gamer and rallying the team to raise their game while improving somewhat himself, while the other appeared to inspire no one and to be regressing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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