Dkollidas Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) I was wondering how everyone ranks the wide receivers outside of the “consensus” top-5 they are projected to go in the 2nd’ish round. Top-5 are: Jeudy Lamb Ruggs III Shenault Higgins I feel like the next group consists of the following: Reagor Jefferson Aiyuk Hamlin Mims Peoples-Jones Edwards Pittman Jr How would You rank those 8 receivers that come after the initial 5? Edited February 19, 2020 by Dkollidas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: I was wondering how everyone ranks the wide receivers outside of the “consensus” top-5 they are projected to go in the 2nd’ish round. Top-5 are: Jeudy Lamb Ruggs III Shenault Higgins I feel like the next group consists of the following: Reagor Jefferson Aiyuk Hamlin Mims Peoples-Jones Edwards Pittman Jr How would You rank those 8 receivers that come after the initial 5? For our team: Jefferson Aiyuk/reagor tyler johnson mims pittman edwards those are the only guys I’ve watched film on so far, so it could change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) My 2nd Tier WRs Justin Jefferson (2) Brandon Aiyuk (2) Jalen Reagor (2) Bryan Edwards (2-3) Gabriel Davis (2-3) Van Jefferson (2-3) Michael Pittman (2-3) Denzel Mims (2-3) Quartney Davis (3) Im a big fan on Gabriel Davis and Quartney Davis... I think they will be solid pros that most are overlooking Peoples-Jones I feel is a round 5 guy, and Tyler Johnson should go round 3 at latest but rumor is character issues. Edited February 20, 2020 by CEN-CAL17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: I was wondering how everyone ranks the wide receivers outside of the “consensus” top-5 they are projected to go in the 2nd’ish round. Top-5 are: Jeudy Lamb Ruggs III Shenault Higgins I feel like the next group consists of the following: Reagor Jefferson Aiyuk Hamlin Mims Peoples-Jones Edwards Pittman Jr How would You rank those 8 receivers that come after the initial 5? I think it’s really a top 3 and then everyone else is below those guys. I would rank the 10 leftovers from your post: 1. Reagor 2. Aiyuk 3. Higgins 4. Jefferson 5. Pittman 6. Shenault 7. Edwards 8. Hamler 9. DPJ 10. Mims Edited February 20, 2020 by DCOrange 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: I was wondering how everyone ranks the wide receivers outside of the “consensus” top-5 they are projected to go in the 2nd’ish round. Top-5 are: Jeudy Lamb Ruggs III Shenault Higgins I feel like the next group consists of the following: Reagor Jefferson Aiyuk Hamlin Mims Peoples-Jones Edwards Pittman Jr How would You rank those 8 receivers that come after the initial 5? I don’t mean to derail this but I’m not sure that’s the consensus top 5. The consensus top 3 seems pretty clear but there are absolutely teams that will have Reagor, Aiyuk and maybe others ahead of Shenault and Higgins. Edited February 20, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t mean to derail this but I’m not sure that’s the consensus top 5. The consensus top 3 seems pretty clear but there are absolutely teams that will have Reagor, Aiyuk and maybe others ahead of Shenault and Higgins. I mean if you look at mock drafts I would say 85-90 percent have those 5 guys as the first 5 off the board. I understand that’s not GM opinions or that of all fans, but in terms of the professional mock draft community (TDN, ESPN, Etc) those are the top 5 Edited February 20, 2020 by Dkollidas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: I mean if you look at mock drafts I would say 85-90 percent have those 5 guys as the first 5 off the board. I understand that’s not GM opinions or that of all fans, but in terms of the professional mock draft community (TDN, ESPN, Etc) those are the top 5 Agree to disagree I guess...I’m not saying that Shenault and Higgins won’t go 4 and 5 but there is a consensus top 3 it seems. As an example Daniel Jeremiah has Jefferson and Ayiuk at 4 and 5. Word around the senior bowl is pretty much every team had a first round grade on him. I think there’s a VERY good chance that Ayiuk is the 4th receiver taken. I said that I won’t derail it though so here are my WR rankings (subject to change): - Jeudy - Ruggs - Lamb - Raegor - Ayiuk - Shenault - Justin Jefferson - Higgins - Pittman - Edwards - Van Jefferson (almost forgot him) - Gandy-Golden - Mims - Peoples-Jones Edited February 20, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Aiyuk is going in 1st round. If we are going WR round 1, 1-Lamb 2-Jeudy 3- Ruggs 4-Aiyuk is my board, and I’m ok with any of them at 22. No thank you to Shenault or Higgins. I’d rather go CB or Edge, or trade back. All my opinion of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 In an amazing WR class I think it’s Lamb and Jeudy in a class of their own then everyone else is dealers choice. This is my personal top 15: Ceedee Lamb, Oklahoma Jerry Jeudy, Alabama Tee Higgins, Clemson Justin Jefferson, LSU Denzel Mims, Baylor Laviska Shenault Jr., Colorado Henry Ruggs, Alabama Michael Pittman Jr., USC Jalen Reagor, TCU Brandon Aiyuk, Arizona State Tyler Johnson, Minn Lynn Bowden, UK Quintez Cephus, Wisconsin Jauan Jennings, Tenn Colin Johnson, Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CEN-CAL17 said: My 2nd Tier WRs Justin Jefferson (2) Brandon Aiyuk (2) Jalen Reagor (2) Bryan Edwards (2-3) Gabriel Davis (2-3) Van Jefferson (2-3) Michael Pittman (2-3) Denzel Mims (2-3) Quartney Davis (3) Im a big fan on Gabriel Davis and Quartney Davis... I think they will be solid pros that most are overlooking Peoples-Jones I feel is a round 5 guy, and Tyler Johnson should go round 3 at latest but rumor is character issues. Im very curious to see how Gabriel Davis does at the combine. Edited February 20, 2020 by Lagoon Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I was wondering how everyone ranks the wide receivers outside of the “consensus” top-5 they are projected to go in the 2nd’ish round. Top-5 are: Jeudy Lamb Ruggs III Shenault Higgins I feel like the next group consists of the following: Reagor Jefferson Aiyuk Hamlin Mims Peoples-Jones Edwards Pittman Jr How would You rank those 8 receivers that come after the initial 5? What about Gandy Golden. I feel lp like he and Mims are same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) What about the kid from Norte Dame, Chase Claypool? Anyone know anything? I thought he played well. Edited February 20, 2020 by Baba Booey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Ruggs - Burner Jeudy - Best Route Runner Lamb - YAC. Quicker than he is fast. - These 3 separate themselves. Depends on what a team values most. Aiyuk Bowden Claypool Higgins Reagor Shenault Jefferson Hill Second tier. All will go possibly end of 1 thru 4th rounds. I like Bowden and Shenault best personally of these. Both could be an Anquan Boldin type receiver I think. Higgins has bust potential IMO. Edited February 20, 2020 by Floydboy12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I've seen a lot of people down on Higgins in multiple different threads here. What are people's issues with him? (Idk enough about him, just wondering) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, BillsCuse said: I've seen a lot of people down on Higgins in multiple different threads here. What are people's issues with him? (Idk enough about him, just wondering) To me, he’s going to be just okay. He doesn’t separate and is a good, not great athlete. One of my best friends is the President of the Clemson Alumni Chapter in New Orleans. He follows them like I do the Bills. I asked his opinion and he said “there’s no way that I’d take him in the first.” That was all the convincing that I needed. He’s been right on pretty much every Clemson player to date and even sometimes with unpopular opinions (ie he thought Hopkins would be a better pro than Sammy). Edited February 20, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsCuse said: I've seen a lot of people down on Higgins in multiple different threads here. What are people's issues with him? (Idk enough about him, just wondering) Slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, BillsCuse said: I've seen a lot of people down on Higgins in multiple different threads here. What are people's issues with him? (Idk enough about him, just wondering) NFL teams expect him to run in the 4.45-4.50 range, but most people (myself included) are pretty skeptical of that. If he doesn’t have the long speed, he doesn’t really have anything that suggests he’ll separate well, so that leaves him as a contested catch artist, which is akin to being a mid-range specialist in the NBA. It’s not highly valuable if you aren’t offering anything else and that’s the way a lot of people that are down on him feel about him. Having said that, I don’t think he’ll run a 4.6 like some think; I think he’s around a 4.55 and I think he’s more skilled than people give him credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, DCOrange said: NFL teams expect him to run in the 4.45-4.50 range, but most people (myself included) are pretty skeptical of that. If he doesn’t have the long speed, he doesn’t really have anything that suggests he’ll separate well, so that leaves him as a contested catch artist, which is akin to being a mid-range specialist in the NBA. It’s not highly valuable if you aren’t offering anything else and that’s the way a lot of people that are down on him feel about him. Having said that, I don’t think he’ll run a 4.6 like some think; I think he’s around a 4.55 and I think he’s more skilled than people give him credit for. I am with NFL teams. I think he is going to run faster than a lot of people expect. I reject the separation issues. I see plenty of separation ability on tape. I think he is raw. I think he currently runs a limited route tree. And I think his release needs work. But I think after the top 3 if I was trying to find the most likely guy to be a #1 WR in the NFL I'd pick Tee Higgins. I think this board as a rule is too low on him and way too high on Shenault. Tier 1 - First round grades 1. Jeudy 2. Lamb 3. Ruggs ----- Tier 2 - Second round grades 4. Higgins 5. Reagor 6. Aiyuk 7. Shenault 8. Hamler 9. Jefferson ----- Tier 3 - Late second / Third round 10. Pittman 11. T. Johnson 12. G. Davis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t mean to derail this but I’m not sure that’s the consensus top 5. The consensus top 3 seems pretty clear but there are absolutely teams that will have Reagor, Aiyuk and maybe others ahead of Shenault and Higgins. And I also think it’s very fluid. After the combine guys will move around, and after their pro days they’ll move around again. But right now in most mocks ive seen, there’s a tier of Jeudy/Lamb, then there’s Ruggs III, and then usually Shenault/Higgins after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I was wondering how everyone ranks the wide receivers outside of the “consensus” top-5 they are projected to go in the 2nd’ish round. Top-5 are: Jeudy Lamb Ruggs III Shenault Higgins I feel like the next group consists of the following: Reagor Jefferson Aiyuk Hamlin Mims Peoples-Jones Edwards Pittman Jr How would You rank those 8 receivers that come after the initial 5? I rank Reagor beyond some of the talent you have listed in the top tier (and beyond any in the second tier). His potential is just off the charts. That’s just me though. If the Bills pass on trading up for a WR like JJ, and don’t take Viska, it comes down to Ruggs or Reagor for me. its probably a good thing that I’m not running the team though... ? 9 hours ago, Lagoon Blues said: Im very curious to see how Gabriel Davis does at the combine. Me too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, DFT said: I rank Reagor beyond some of the talent you have listed in the top tier (and beyond any in the second tier). His potential is just off the charts. That’s just me though. If the Bills pass on trading up for a WR like JJ, and don’t take Viska, it comes down to Ruggs or Reagor for me. its probably a good thing that I’m not running the team though... ? Me too!!! I like Reagor too. Not to mention he is a great returner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 In this draft I'm for taking two. Reagor and if he is still there Tyler Johnson in the 3rd after dealing some later round pick(s) to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) I hope we get one from each list. Ideally one big, large catch radius guy and one speedster. This is what i want: 1. Henry Ruggs - Alabama 2. Michael Pittman Jr. - USC or 1. Tee Higgins - Clemson 2. Aiyuk / Reagor - ASU / TCU Edited February 20, 2020 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 12 hours ago, BillsCuse said: I've seen a lot of people down on Higgins in multiple different threads here. What are people's issues with him? (Idk enough about him, just wondering) His performances against Ohio St and LSU left something to be desired. Those games left a lot of people questioning if he's soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Agree to disagree I guess...I’m not saying that Shenault and Higgins won’t go 4 and 5 but there is a consensus top 3 it seems. As an example Daniel Jeremiah has Jefferson and Ayiuk at 4 and 5. Word around the senior bowl is pretty much every team had a first round grade on him. I think there’s a VERY good chance that Ayiuk is the 4th receiver taken. I said that I won’t derail it though so here are my WR rankings (subject to change): - Jeudy - Ruggs - Lamb - Raegor - Ayiuk - Shenault - Justin Jefferson - Higgins - Pittman - Edwards - Van Jefferson (almost forgot him) - Gandy-Golden - Mims - Peoples-Jones I’m similar. Right now the top-3 are Lamb/JJ/Ruggs. Then a gap followed by: Jefferson Aiyuk Hamler Reagor another gap: Higgins Laviska another gap: Ty Johnson Pittman Van Jefferson Quartney Davis Isaiah Hodgins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I’m similar. Right now the top-3 are Lamb/JJ/Ruggs. Then a gap followed by: Jefferson Aiyuk Hamler Reagor another gap: Higgins Laviska another gap: Ty Johnson Pittman Van Jefferson Quartney Davis Isaiah Hodgins I forgot about Hamler!! He’s in that Higgins-Pittman-Edwards group for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, DFT said: Me too!!! Stats def aren't everything for sure.....but his would have been even better if Milton's leg didn't almost break off and he was the one throwing to Davis last season. Edited February 20, 2020 by Lagoon Blues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 We need a #1. Either in the draft or FA. Not sure how much adding another contributor does to this offense. I already see Brown and Beasley as contributors. Another contributor could help but I dont feel it is enough. Look at the past 10 years drafts - each draft class really only has maybe 2-3 at most stud WR's and handful of contributor types. With that, if you cant land who you feel is a top 3 WR in this class then you wait to the 3rd or 4th at least and grab one or two of the contributor types (Pittman, GG, or if one of the higher guys (Jefferson, Aiyuk, etc) fall. In the first and second go Edge and OL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philholbroo Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Gandy-Golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Baba Booey said: What about the kid from Norte Dame, Chase Claypool? Anyone know anything? I thought he played well. Hes at the top of that second tier for me. Kid is going to be a beast. Surprised hes not on any of those lists. Guess people don't watch much ND football these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 All I know is its a good year to need a wide receiver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: All I know is its a good year to need a wide receiver It's insane. Theres 15-20 guys I'd take a look at. Some lesser known talents... Isiah Hodgins Omar Bayless Omar's highlight reel is ridiculous. Apparently his route running is garbage tho. I personally love Van Jefferson. He did enough at the Senior Bowl for me to push him into 2-3. Sorry for the ADHD....I'm just excited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I was wondering how everyone ranks the wide receivers outside of the “consensus” top-5 they are projected to go in the 2nd’ish round. Top-5 are: Jeudy Lamb Ruggs III Shenault Higgins I feel like the next group consists of the following: Reagor Jefferson Aiyuk Hamlin Mims Peoples-Jones Edwards Pittman Jr How would You rank those 8 receivers that come after the initial 5? I want to see some combine results before I do that ranking. I want to see measurables for all of them and some drill results for most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: It's insane. Theres 15-20 guys I'd take a look at. Some lesser known talents... Isiah Hodgins Omar Bayless Omar's highlight reel is ridiculous. Apparently his route running is garbage tho. I personally love Van Jefferson. He did enough at the Senior Bowl for me to push him into 2-3. Sorry for the ADHD....I'm just excited As I said in the CF WR thread: Omar is the player that all of Bills Mafia wishes Duke Williams would be. Hodgins is, to me, another Geronimo Allison type. Not a bad thing at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: As I said in the CF WR thread: Omar is the player that all of Bills Mafia wishes Duke Williams would be. Hodgins is, to me, another Geronimo Allison type. Not a bad thing at all. I want 2 WR's out of this draft.....I dont even care if we bring in so many that we cant keep them all...... If we are going to run 5 wide......get some ***** players that can make a play on a ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 My fear is this being one of the strongest wr drafts in over a decade, teams might start an earlier run on these guys. You'll be forced to jump on a tier 2,3 or 4 guy earlier then you'd like. Jeremiah says Ruggs might run a 4.25? Obviously I want us to draft 2 receivers in the first 4 picks. The question is who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 19 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: My 2nd Tier WRs Justin Jefferson (2) Brandon Aiyuk (2) Jalen Reagor (2) Bryan Edwards (2-3) Gabriel Davis (2-3) Van Jefferson (2-3) Michael Pittman (2-3) Denzel Mims (2-3) Quartney Davis (3) Im a big fan on Gabriel Davis and Quartney Davis... I think they will be solid pros that most are overlooking Peoples-Jones I feel is a round 5 guy, and Tyler Johnson should go round 3 at latest but rumor is character issues. KJ Hill is in the discussion too, I’m not as high on Aiyuk, see him more as a round 3 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I am keeping an eye on Lawrence Cager out of UGA at the combine and his pro day. Cager is 6’5 and 220 pounds and has a huge catch radius. Cager will be a day three or UDFA target as it stands now due to injuries his senior season. If Cager puts up A sub 4.6 forty he might start popping up on teams radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t mean to derail this but I’m not sure that’s the consensus top 5. The consensus top 3 seems pretty clear but there are absolutely teams that will have Reagor, Aiyuk and maybe others ahead of Shenault and Higgins. I certainly do. In order... Reagor, Shenault, Aiyuk, Higgins. I only have Shenault ahead of Aiyuk due to potential, but it’s extremely close. I think Higgins is slightly limited. I also have Lynn Bowden ahead of half of the OPs 2nd tier list. He was forgotten about after switching to QB (30/348 in 4.5 games), but the previous season he put up 67/745 in the SEC. Granted he ran for 1,200 yards in 7 games after the switch.... Bowden, Aiyuk, and Reagor are, to me, the guys most likely to be electric. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said: I certainly do. In order... Reagor, Shenault, Aiyuk, Higgins. I only have Shenault ahead of Aiyuk due to potential, but it’s extremely close. I think Higgins is slightly limited. I also have Lynn Bowden ahead of half of the OPs 2nd tier list. He was forgotten about after switching to QB (30/348 in 4.5 games), but the previous season he put up 67/745 in the SEC. Granted he ran for 1,200 yards in 7 games after the switch.... Bowden, Aiyuk, and Reagor are, to me, the guys most likely to be electric. Bowden is a guy that could be a better Taysom Hill than Taysom Hill IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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