Could This Guy be a TE on Beane's Radar ?

[T master]

So far this off season the Bills have brought in 1 FA TE for a visit in Greg Olson which according to some of those in the know the Bills are in contract negotiations with his group now to try to bring him to the Bills ! 

 

https://buffalowdown.com/2020/02/15/report-greg-olsen-contract-three-teams-buffalo-bills/

 

Seeing as McD likes to have a veteran in each of his groups if they happen to miss on Olsen i was wondering if Delanie Walker might be on Beane's radar as another possibility at the TE position to help the younger guys up their game & be the vet in the room ? He like Olsen has been bit by the injury bug in the past but has been a t one time a very good TE in the league .

 

He could probably be brought in on a good contract & it sounds here in Nashville as if they're not sure if they want to bring him back, of coarse a lot also hinges on if he decides he still wants to play or if he decides to hang it up after being put on IR last season .

 

I think the Bills have a lot of talent in the TE room already & given the fact that Croom is coming back this year i'm not really sure if they need another guy to add to this area of the team but given McD liking a vet i think he could be better in the area of production on the field in a limited rotation than Smith or Kroft & could be of more value to the younger guys .

 

Just wondering ya'lls thoughts if he might be worth a look or not ?? 

Edited February 18, 2020 by T master

[FireChans]

Has T master and Tipster ever been seen in the same room together?

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

At this point in the off season, there is a lot of speculation and misinformation being tossed around.  I don't believe that TE is a pressing need.  When a guy like Olsen becomes available, it just makes good sense to kick the tires and see if you can make an incremental improvement in the roster.  If they sign Olsen, one of the other guys will become expendable.  In any event, this isn't going to be a big deal that alters the potential of the team to any great degree.

[Hardhatharry]

Bills need a TE in a big way... One that can actually catch passes thrown to them.

Edited February 18, 2020 by Hardhatharry

[machine gun kelly]

I just don’t understand the floating of these 30+ guys, when you could have a 4 years vet, 25 yard. Austin Hooper and ATL only has $5 mil in cap space.  He’s unrestricted and don’t have to give up picks, or big $, or worry about the guy getting hurt or wearing down as much as the guy mentioned above.  It’s a business, and whatever he’s done in the past won’t help now.

[Logic]

1 minute ago, Hardhatharry said:

Bills need a TE in a big way... One that can't actually catch passes thrown to them.

.....what?

[Augie]

4 hours ago, Hardhatharry said:

Bills need a TE in a big way... One that can't actually catch passes thrown to them.

 

I think we have that covered already. Sad, but true.     

Edited February 17, 2020 by Augie

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

13 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

Bills need a TE in a big way... One that can't actually catch passes thrown to them.

 

They already have one drafted in the 3rd round.  By the time you add in dead money to either Kroft and/or Smith, plus what the new person wants you're way over paying the overall TE group.  If they can sign Olsen I'd be OK with that as he's a short term solution, give him a year or two to coach up Knox and Sweeney , then he retires.  If Walker could be signed for the same money short term, then OK there too, but don't do anything that reduces Knox development time on the field.

 

Will Knox be at the top level, no one knows, though many here think they know.  Other than the drops this past year, he played very good for a rookie. Give him another year, lets see how the drops plays out.  If next off season still a problem, then look at TE's available then.

 

Beane has stated multiple times he wants to build through the draft.  Bringing in any type of player that reduces Knox's playing time goes against that.  I think any team in the league would tell you that they wand players drafted in the first three rounds to be starters, plus a few later round successes.  You don't then a year later make moves to reduce his playing time unless you already sense a mistake in the pick which is highly unlikely with him.

 

To use a term used more in baseball's front office you need to look at WAR, wins above replacement and by the time you sign the "star" cut whomever is no longer needed, and push last years rookie to the side, I doubt there's any value there, likely would be a negative gain whomever you were to sign unless a very low $$ contract.

[Gugny]

51 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Has T master and Tipster ever been seen in the same room together?

 

I think they're always in the same room together.

[Reed83HOF]

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I think they're always in the same room together.

you sound jealous

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

you sound jealous

 

Not this time

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, T master said:

So far this off season the Bills have brought in 1 FA TE for a visit in Greg Olson which according to some of those in the know the Bills are in contract negotiations with his group now to try to bring him to the Bills ! 

 

https://buffalowdown.com/2020/02/15/report-greg-olsen-contract-three-teams-buffalo-bills/

 

Seeing as McD likes to have a veteran in each of his groups if they happen to miss on Olsen i was wondering if Delanie Walker might be on Beane's radar as another possibility at the TE position to help the younger guys up their game & be the vet in the room ? He like Olsen has been bit by the injury bug in the past but has been a t one time a very good TE in the league .

 

He could probably be brought in on a good contract & it sounds here in Nashville as if they're not sure if they want to bring him back, of coarse a lot also hinges on if he decides he still wants to play or if he decides to hang it up after being put on IR last season .

 

I think the Bills have a lot of talent inn the TE room already & given the fact that Croom is coming back this year i'm not really sure if they need another guy to add to this area of the team but given McD liking a vet i think he could be better in the area of production on the field in a limited rotation than Smith or Kroft & could be of more value to the younger guys .

 

Just wondering ya'lls thoughts if he might be worth a look or not ?? 

 

 

The Bills TE's haven't roomed there much.

 

And Croom?  come on man...

[mannc]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

The Bills TE's haven't roomed there much.

 

 

There is plenty of room at that inn...

[Reed83HOF]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

The Bills TE's haven't roomed there much.

 

And Croom?  come on man...

I, really, truly wonder, if other fan bases love the hope and has the expectation of a scrub becoming an all-pro like us

 

Croom is the new Mike Jasper

[apuszczalowski]

40 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

At this point in the off season, there is a lot of speculation and misinformation being tossed around.  I don't believe that TE is a pressing need.  When a guy like Olsen becomes available, it just makes good sense to kick the tires and see if you can make an incremental improvement in the roster.  If they sign Olsen, one of the other guys will become expendable.  In any event, this isn't going to be a big deal that alters the potential of the team to any great degree.

I agree, I think that the Bills interest in Olsen is more about him being a veteran that they are familiar with wanting to bring him in for a vet leader rather then them believing they need to upgrade the TE position. I don't see it as a position they desperately need to upgrade in their mind.

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

***** Croom? 

 

 

are you questioning if you want to ***** him?

[H2o]

1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

I, really, truly wonder, if other fan bases love the hope and has the expectation of a scrub becoming an all-pro like us

 

Croom is the new Mike Jasper

C.J. Ah You 

[Reed83HOF]

Just now, H2o said:

C.J. Ah You 

Da'rick you 

Just now, ScottLaw said:

I was questioning him if he wanted to....

maybe this is Kelly's account on TBD 

[Tipster19]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Has T master and Tipster ever been seen in the same room together?

The capital T should give you a clue.

[White Linen]

People are sleeping on Croom but only one of them matters.  

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

At this point in the off season, there is a lot of speculation and misinformation being tossed around.  I don't believe that TE is a pressing need.  When a guy like Olsen becomes available, it just makes good sense to kick the tires and see if you can make an incremental improvement in the roster.  If they sign Olsen, one of the other guys will become expendable.  In any event, this isn't going to be a big deal that alters the potential of the team to any great degree.

Our tight ends aren’t that good.  Why are there so many content with having 2 developmental tight ends as our 1 and 2, while Kroft, smith and croom are wasting roster spots 

 

if we want to win a Sb, we need to upgrade the TE position imo

[White Linen]

23 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Our tight ends aren’t that good.  Why are there so many content with having 2 developmental tight ends as our 1 and 2, while Kroft, smith and croom are wasting roster spots 

 

if we want to win a Sb, we need to upgrade the TE position imo

 

No doubt

[Dopey]

You couldn't put his name in the title? Click bait?

 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Dopey

[Just Joshin']

31 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Our tight ends aren’t that good.  Why are there so many content with having 2 developmental tight ends as our 1 and 2, while Kroft, smith and croom are wasting roster spots 

 

if we want to win a Sb, we need to upgrade the TE position imo

But not with an old, injured TE.

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, Hardhatharry said:

Bills need a TE in a big way... One that can't actually catch passes thrown to them.

Pretty sure we've got serious depth in that area.

[NewEra]

32 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

But not with an old, injured TE.

You can make stuff up if you like, but he’s not injured.  He played fine last year and had double our TEs production and a rookie qb throwing to him.  
 

wake up

[Virgil]

Can we make it a ban-able offense to make click bait titles?

 

It literally makes me want to claw my skin off 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I just don’t understand the floating of these 30+ guys, when you could have a 4 years vet, 25 yard. Austin Hooper and ATL only has $5 mil in cap space.  He’s unrestricted and don’t have to give up picks, or big $, or worry about the guy getting hurt or wearing down as much as the guy mentioned above.  It’s a business, and whatever he’s done in the past won’t help now.

 

I would 100% like to see us make a big push for Hooper.

[Gugny]

15 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Can we make it a ban-able offense to make click bait titles?

 

It literally makes me want to claw my skin off 

 

Been a pet peeve of mine for years.

[Golden Goat]

2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

Croom is the new Mike Jasper

 

Jasper banged a Pegula daughter, too? ?

[fansince88]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Has T master and Tipster ever been seen in the same room together?

If only one of them were in the same room they would be together.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get me?

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Can we make it a ban-able offense to make click bait titles?

 

It literally makes me want to claw my skin off 

Do it!!

[Virgil]

6 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

 

Do it!!

Don’t threaten me with a good time!

[fansince88]

Just now, Virgil said:

Don’t threaten me with a good time!

I hope you read that in your best Brooklyn accent 

 

Edited February 17, 2020 by fansince88

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Our tight ends aren’t that good.  Why are there so many content with having 2 developmental tight ends as our 1 and 2, while Kroft, smith and croom are wasting roster spots 

 

if we want to win a Sb, we need to upgrade the TE position imo

With the needs at WR, O-line, pass rusher, D-line, and CB; the need for TE falls down in the priority.  That was the point of my previous post.  After spending a third and seventh round pick last year on two guys that have shown pretty good potential, Beane won't be giving up on them to spend big bucks or more high round draft picks on more guys.  He may replace Smith, Kroft, and Croom with better second tier veterans.  This is what the whole Olsen thing is about.

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Our tight ends aren’t that good.  Why are there so many content with having 2 developmental tight ends as our 1 and 2, while Kroft, smith and croom are wasting roster spots 

 

if we want to win a Sb, we need to upgrade the TE position imo

I agree completely. Right now there's absolutely zero guarantee Knox develops or improves. He might but who knows. Sweeny is nothing more than a young 7th round project. Probably no longevity there. After that we have nothing. Kroft, Smith & Croom bring nothing to this team and whatever their making is just charity. All 3 need to be cut. Unless we sign Henry or Hooper, our TE group will continue to be awful. And please stop with the 35+ mentorship program Sean is running. Big no to Olsen.

[Jauronimo]

2 hours ago, Golden Goat said:

 

Jasper banged a Pegula daughter, too? ?

No, but he tagged one of Ralph's daughter and nearly killed her in the act.  A real sick f@#$ that one.

[DJB]

5 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I just don’t understand the floating of these 30+ guys, when you could have a 4 years vet, 25 yard. Austin Hooper and ATL only has $5 mil in cap space.  He’s unrestricted and don’t have to give up picks, or big $, or worry about the guy getting hurt or wearing down as much as the guy mentioned above.  It’s a business, and whatever he’s done in the past won’t help now.

 

True.

 

But the player has to want to come to Buffalo. 

[Buffalo86]

Delanie Walker might be even more of an injury risk than Olsen.  Pass.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

With the needs at WR, O-line, pass rusher, D-line, and CB; the need for TE falls down in the priority.  That was the point of my previous post.  After spending a third and seventh round pick last year on two guys that have shown pretty good potential, Beane won't be giving up on them to spend big bucks or more high round draft picks on more guys.  He may replace Smith, Kroft, and Croom with better second tier veterans.  This is what the whole Olsen thing is about.

I promise you that Sweeney will not be our #2 TE and that we will be upgrading the position.  The two best TEs in the game played in the SB.  The position does matter and Beane knows it must be upgraded if we want this offense it’s best chance to succeed.  
 

Any other thought process is a failure imo.  We need to upgrade that room

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

I promise you that Sweeney will not be our #2 TE and that we will be upgrading the position.  The two best TEs in the game played in the SB.  The position does matter and Beane knows it must be upgraded if we want this offense it’s best chance to succeed.  
 

Any other thought process is a failure imo.  We need to upgrade that room

Based on your response, I suppose you are expecting a TE to be drafted in the first couple of rounds or obtained in a high profile trade.  I don't see any difference makers being available in free agency.   I guess we'll see if you are correct.  I doubt it but we'll have to wait and see.