Gugny Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I would say that's because defenses "get the flick" on how the refs see it Brady also led the league with four Intentional Grounding penalties called against him. https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/intentional-grounding?year=2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: Brady also led the league with four Intentional Grounding penalties called against him. https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/intentional-grounding?year=2019 Again - as opposed to how many he committed? Look, I get your point that "perception isn't reality", but we all see the plays as linked up thread, where it's 100% IG and not called. One of the things the Patriots do is they systematically push the limits. Former Pats players have openly acknowledged that's how they're coached. If Edelman commits OPI 10x a game and gets called for it once, that's 9x he's able to achieve an advantage by it. Gronk was notorious for pushing off on every play but successfully drawing defensive holding penalties instead. If Brady commits Intentional Grounding 1x a game (very conservative for easy math), and gets called for it 4x per season, he may lead the league but that's still a 4x strategic advantage over taking 16 sacks, and who knows, maybe he'll draw a "roughing" penalty as a bonus - per your site, he had 5 in 2015 and 4 in 2018, he's 9th overall on your IG link list. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He wants a check, but it's more the FA $$ kind. His team was 12-4 and playoffs, won the AFC E, and he passed for >4000 yds, 24 TD and 8 INT in that down year. I would be happy with that from our QB. I hate the guy, but the only way to deliver a reality check is to whup his ass on the field. He's earned the right to talk. His numbers were pretty average in comparison to his other seasons. He had the lowest completion percentage he's had since 2004 (both '04 and '19 he was at 60.8%). I watched probably five or six Pats games this season and to me, he looks more rattled by pressure than ever before. He's very quick to chuck the ball in the dirt when he's being rushed. I also saw him miss on routine throws that he just never misses on. I suppose something could be said of his receiver group, but he's lit it up in the past with second/third tier players so, not sure how much effect that had. Regardless, he's still a guy you can never count out. Father Time is undefeated, though. Sooner or later he'll tell him that he can't play anymore... probably in 2140 when Bionic Brady's batteries finally give out. I think I mentioned in another thread that I have a hard time seeing him becoming as successful somewhere else. He's worked in the same offensive system for at least a decade, had the same OC for a long time, etc. Not saying he wouldn't be able to learn another system but his bread and butter has always been a West Coast based offense. Short, quick passes on horizontal routes. Gets the ball out quicker than anyone which is why it's such a pain in the neck to sack him. If he goes anywhere besides New England there would be some adjustments that would need to be made to accommodate him, I think. Lastly, he ain't playing in no GD Super Bowl next year. I will Nancy Kerrigan his a$$! I will clock that surgically repaired knee with a GD lawnmower if I have to. He will not pass Go, he will not collect $200, he will not collect ring #7. ....Or maybe he will, who knows, I'm not a foosball scientist. Edited February 6, 2020 by blacklabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: Brady also led the league with four Intentional Grounding penalties called against him. https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/intentional-grounding?year=2019 He should have had at least one more as remember one that didn't get called against the Bills when "Rex Burkhead was in the area" yet not even within 10 yards of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Again - as opposed to how many he committed? Look, I get your point that "perception isn't reality", but we all see the plays as linked up thread, where it's 100% IG and not called. One of the things the Patriots do is they systematically push the limits. Former Pats players have openly acknowledged that's how they're coached. If Edelman commits OPI 10x a game and gets called for it once, that's 9x he's able to achieve an advantage by it. Gronk was notorious for pushing off on every play but successfully drawing defensive holding penalties instead. If Brady commits Intentional Grounding 1x a game (very conservative for easy math), and gets called for it 4x per season, he may lead the league but that's still a 4x strategic advantage over taking 16 sacks, and who knows, maybe he'll draw a "roughing" penalty as a bonus - per your site, he had 5 in 2015 and 4 in 2018, he's 9th overall on your IG link list. I totally get what you're saying and agree. I just feel like the egregious "gimmes," significantly dwindled last season for NE* and I anticipate/hope to see that trend continuing as long as Marcia is there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Good. I thought it meant my picture needed adjusting. you can just feel the itch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I think I mentioned in another thread that I have a hard time seeing him becoming as successful somewhere else. He's worked in the same offensive system for at least a decade, had the same OC for a long time, etc. Not saying he wouldn't be able to learn another system but his bread and butter has always been a West Coast based offense. Short, quick passes on horizontal routes. Gets the ball out quicker than anyone which is why it's such a pain in the neck to sack him. If he goes anywhere besides New England there would be some adjustments that would need to be made to accommodate him, I think. Lastly, he ain't playing in no GD Super Bowl next year. I will Nancy Kerrigan his a$$! I will clock that surgically repaired knee with a GD lawnmower if I have to. He will not pass Go, he will not collect $200, he will not collect ring #7. ....Or maybe he will, who knows, I'm not a foosball scientist. I don't think you can call what the Patriots run a WCO. It's well-known as a Erhardt-Perkins offense, and that's not just a matter of terminology. Sounds like his ability to play in a Superbowl next season is a function of how determined (and willing to face charges) you are. As a criminal, are you good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: He should have had at least one more as remember one that didn't get called against the Bills when "Rex Burkhead was in the area" yet not even within 10 yards of the ball. I actually counted four in that game; one of which was called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, Gugny said: I totally get what you're saying and agree. I just feel like the egregious "gimmes," significantly dwindled last season for NE* and I anticipate/hope to see that trend continuing as long as Marcia is there. I did feel hope when the ref cast a "revive" flag at Julian Edelman. I also laughed until the dog was worried about me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I've read TB12 has a rigourous poledancing component. He'd also have a leg up on the Punt, Pass and Kick competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: Which instrument will he be playing? I hear it is a very, very small violin. Skin Flute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, H2o said: He's just pissed he was left out as a backup dancer for JLo and Shakira, vows to come back more focused than ever. This says SO MUCH about Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: He sure is pretty confident for somebody who had a down year. Sounds like somebody needs a reality check. He must be playing for an NFC team since we are going to be representing the AFC https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/05/tom-brady-plans-to-play-in-next-years-super-bowl-wont-say-for-which-team/ This sort of reeks of an over the hill boxer talking about how he's gonna kick the champ's azz. I'm less angry about it than I am sad for him. Note that essentially every single aspect of his life is better than mine but at least i'm not singing Glory Days to myself unironically 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: He would have looked good in that silver spaceman suit. this wins the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: I totally get what you're saying and agree. I just feel like the egregious "gimmes," significantly dwindled last season for NE* and I anticipate/hope to see that trend continuing as long as Marcia is there. They did dwindle and their ***** fans cried about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 every marching band needs a rusty trombone player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 He will be 43 next season. I'm so glad that hubris will keep him playing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 His stats suggest his 2019 season was fairly good. If he were to repeat those stats, decent chance he could end up in the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: I expect him to bulk up on the PEDs this offseason and easily get away with it...... Maybe he can ship it in Peyton Manning's wife's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, stuvian said: every marching band needs a rusty trombone player even if hes a little rusty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Halftime show, topless dancer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He wants a check, but it's more the FA $$ kind. His team was 12-4 and playoffs, won the AFC E, and he passed for >4000 yds, 24 TD and 8 INT in that down year. I would be happy with that from our QB. I hate the guy, but the only way to deliver a reality check is to whup his ass on the field. He's earned the right to talk. He started missing wide open receivers and short arming stuff as the season went on. He could be an ok starter but like Peyton was when he won the title his last year with a noodle arm. In the last superbowl game he totaled 141 yds, no TD's, fumbled once and threw a pick. He was 39 and it showed. I hope the Pats keep Brady and he sticks em for $30M, but I don't care where he goes, just happy that he declined a lot throughout the year and fizzled in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think you can call what the Patriots run a WCO. It's well-known as a Erhardt-Perkins offense, and that's not just a matter of terminology. Sounds like his ability to play in a Superbowl next season is a function of how determined (and willing to face charges) you are. As a criminal, are you good? Pff, horrible. I'mma have to bust outta this cell first! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: In 2019, Ryan Fitzpatrick drew the most roughing calls (10). Tom Brady came in at zero. https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php? likely because his O-line was holding and he was throwing it away. That, and add on the fact that D players are afraid to hit him after the past 20 years of nonsense. Edited February 6, 2020 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Maybe the skin flute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Limeaid said: Which instrument will he be playing? I hear it is a very, very small violin. He was misquoted. He said next Lingerie Bowl. 3 hours ago, TroutDog said: Respect the heck out of what he’s done but Lord I can’t wait until he is gone. I can't until he comes clean about what the Pats were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 meh this is clickbait..of course he thinks he'll be in the super bowl the question I have is for which team. Is it a given he will even be a patriot next year ..NO. Do I wish he sticks around too long and continues a downward trajectory? YES because a guy like him has nothing left to prove and yet he still chooses to play ..I hope he pays for it and we get to see him decline and pout on the sidelines as such give us all ample opportunities to ridicule and laugh at him in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: I know they let “female dogs” play in the puppy bowl, but I don’t think he meets some of the requirements lol You don't think he's adorable, fluffy, and cuddlesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I can't until he comes clean about what the Pats were doing. I think you’ll be waiting for decades. Just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 11 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: He sure is pretty confident for somebody who had a down year. Sounds like somebody needs a reality check. He must be playing for an NFC team since we are going to be representing the AFC https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/05/tom-brady-plans-to-play-in-next-years-super-bowl-wont-say-for-which-team/ hey Tom you need to be in a team first or maybe at halftime playing what the trombone? the flute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 So he’s going to KC to back up Mahomes? Such a ring chaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 hours ago, teef said: ***** him. 13 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I bet you won't say it to his face! 12 hours ago, Limeaid said: Are saying he'd ask that question from behind him? I never understood why people use that expression. I'd say it right in his stupid @$$ face... and tell him how big of a puss he is. If he breaks his hand on my face I get to laugh and take a nice $1+ Million settlement. I know teef might say that from behind me but if we make that comment from behind Brady, he wouldn't hesitate to pull his pants down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 My prediction is that Tom Brady has already played in his last Super Bowl as a QB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) I remember the day of the Titans loss my VP sent out his "Playoff video". He posted it on Twitter the morning of the game. Basically something about them being the main predator ready to kill weaker prey or some crap like that. Another guy I work with said the Patriots are going to roll. I have been noticing this stuff all year with Brady. He seems to be building a hype machine in a way. In the past he never did. I looked at that Video the opposite of my co-worker. You never heard a word from the GOAT Brady. He was nearly invisible. Now he seems to be battling relevance, age, ego. It will be an interesting couple of years of entertainment. As far as GOAT Brady he's not putting a team on his back anymore. Those days are over. Edited February 7, 2020 by KzooMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stevewin Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Pretty sure he meant this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 8 hours ago, stevewin said: Pretty sure he meant this Exactly, T*m Br*dy is so evil he eats kittens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 it would be a nice gesture if the Pats decided to maybe obtain even some mediocre skill positions players to help him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: it would be a nice gesture if the Pats decided to maybe obtain even some mediocre skill positions players to help him out It's so strange.... it seems so obvious to everyone except the HOF possibly GOAT head coach/GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: It's so strange.... it seems so obvious to everyone except the HOF possibly GOAT head coach/GM just like the only people on the planet who didn’t know the 3rd and 12 pass was going to Edelman were the DC and key players of Pats opponents fir whatever reason the Pats have rarely bothered bringing in top talent, thankfully ? Edited February 11, 2020 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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