Maine-iac Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Like the title says. If Daboll does move on to another team Shurmur would be an excellent OC. Everyone has their own opinions but I really think he could take the whole offense to another level. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Bring back Chan Gailey!! 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 nobody is going to hire Daboll as a head coach this offseason. 8 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Like the title says. If Daboll does move on to another team Shurmur would be an excellent OC. Everyone has their own opinions but I really think he could take the whole offense to another level. He “has a chance”... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Like the title says. If Daboll does move on to another team Shurmur would be an excellent OC. Everyone has their own opinions but I really think he could take the whole offense to another level. Daboll has 0% chance of getting an NFL HC gig this offseason. NCAA is a possibility but I don't think that's likely. Also, what has Shurmur shown offensively the last two years that has you so confident he would be an "excellent OC" for us? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Nobody is looking at him as a HC. OCs that are generally considered for a HC job usually produces a ton of points. Averaging around 20 doesn't usually qualify. Frazier has a better chance than Daboll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I would be shocked if Daboll got a HC job. But I was also shocked when Pettine got the Browns job, so who knows.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 No thanks. His offensive game plans with the Giants were not good at all AND he had Saquon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I can’t take the HC buzz surrounding Daboll seriously. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 If Daboll by some miracle is hired there is a couple good candidates we would have to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I'd rather give Dorsey the reigns of the offense. I don't know why, but I'd like to see if we could promote from within Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Daboll? HC? Brian Daboll? Really? Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobby Hooks said: Bring back Chan Gailey!! I loved Chan and Buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Wait what? Cortland State is going after Daboll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, wppete said: I loved Chan and Buddy! If Chan had brought in Pettine or Schwartz like Marrone did he might have had a chance. We just couldn't play defense under his watch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: Nobody is looking at him as a HC. OCs that are generally considered for a HC job usually produces a ton of points. Averaging around 20 doesn't usually qualify. Frazier has a better chance than Daboll. Wouldnt be shocked... teams make dumb decisions all the time. Im sure when Chan Gailey was hired no one thought he would get a HC job... same with Kliff Kingsbury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: If Chan had brought in Pettine or Schwartz like Marrone did he might have had a chance. We just couldn't play defense under his watch. That Defense under Gailey especially the first couple of years was brutal!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Find me an OC that has a History of developing QBs and a History of productive Offenses. that being said NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is going to hire Daboll as their HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Like the title says. If Daboll does move on to another team Shurmur would be an excellent OC. Everyone has their own opinions but I really think he could take the whole offense to another level. You know I was thinking about this earlier today. There were a number of sites that listed Daboll as a candidate (as well as Frazier). If Daboll does leave, which I highly doubt, I think that on paper Pat Shurmur makes a lot sense. He was known as a “QB whisperer” and someone with a great mind for offense. I also read that Shurmur rated Allen during the draft process, though when they played NYG son Week 2 he didn’t have the most glowing review of Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 Not a glowing endorsement but part of the reason I mention Shurmur is that I'm more afraid of what might happen if Daboll left than I would be excited. I like McDermott and think he's a great defensive mind but if he's only going to go as far as his OC will take him and Daboll is probably the threshold. Any worse an OC and we are a good defensive team that has a hard time winning. I'm not sure I like the prospects of McDermott shopping the open market for OC's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: You know I was thinking about this earlier today. There were a number of sites that listed Daboll as a candidate (as well as Frazier). If Daboll does leave, which I highly doubt, I think that on paper Pat Shurmur makes a lot sense. He was known as a “QB whisperer” and someone with a great mind for offense. I also read that Shurmur rated Allen during the draft process, though when they played NYG son Week 2 he didn’t have the most glowing review of Josh. ...I'm sure Frazier will get some calls....first shot as HC was not successful....he'll be 61 in April and although DC is a tough grind, I'm GUESSING HC is even more so......he may be comfortable back in his DC position like Schwartz, Wade, etc.......think the Colts did interview him before Frank.....often wonder how many interviews are embarrassingly and solely for the Rooney Rule?....sure as hell is demeaning IMO..... Edited December 30, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Find me an OC that has a History of developing QBs and a History of productive Offenses. that being said NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is going to hire Daboll as their HC. I do believe the oc from lsu fits that bill 1) good offense nope great 2) backup QB yeah who is he heismam trophy winner Edited December 30, 2019 by scuba guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, wppete said: That Defense under Gailey especially the first couple of years was brutal!!!! Wanstache was asleep in the booth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 People are completely in denial that Daboll is getting serious HC buzz... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: People are completely in denial that Daboll is getting serious HC buzz... ...perhaps BUZZ is the root cause and Daboll has nothing to do with it?....medicinal........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: People are completely in denial that Daboll is getting serious HC buzz... why would any team hire the OC of one of the worst offenses in the NFL to be their HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, RiotAct said: nobody is going to hire Daboll as a head coach this offseason. Ya know, I thought the same of Pettine. The team is not devoid of talent, yet. No discipline, chemistry or camaraderie on that team with way too many divas. Would take a strong willed veteran coach. Dabolls not it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, whatdrought said: People are completely in denial that Daboll is getting serious HC buzz... We said that about Pettine. I don't think Daboll will get a job though. The results just aren't there. He's been with some great head coaches so he'll have some big name references but he's likely got to get some results though. A good playoffs could go a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, whatdrought said: People are completely in denial that Daboll is getting serious HC buzz... no reports anywhere of interest. Except from one LaConjecture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: no reports anywhere of interest. Except from one LaConjecture NFL.com had him listed. I agree with people who say that's crazy. Doesn't mean some team won't do it. Last I knew Daboll has one season with a scoring average over 20 ppg. Most coaches hired out of the Pats organization fail pretty hard as HC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: why would any team hire the OC of one of the worst offenses in the NFL to be their HC? It’s a valid question, but there is real talk about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: NFL.com had him listed. I agree with people who say that's crazy. Doesn't mean some team won't do it. Last I knew Daboll has one season with a scoring average over 20 ppg. Most coaches hired out of the Pats organization fail pretty hard as HC's. Twitter has been confirming interests all day. Guess who hasn’t had one peep about? Yep that would be Daboll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Daboll is a much better OC than most Bills fans believe. Each coach gets a fair amount of deserved criticism but Daboll should get much more credit for this years success than he’s received. If Daboll stays, I firmly believe that next season’s team will average over 25 points a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Bring back Chan Gailey!! and water bugs in space 4 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Daboll is a much better OC than most Bills fans believe. Each coach gets a fair amount of deserved criticism but Daboll should get much more credit for this years success than he’s received. If Daboll stays, I firmly believe that next season’s team will average over 25 points a game. the chance of this happening? zero point zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I would be shocked if Daboll got a HC job. But I was also shocked when Pettine got the Browns job, so who knows.. That's where I'm at. Pettine had ZERO business getting a HC gig, but it happened. I can't for the life of me figure out why someone would view him as a HC candidate, but who knows? It's the Browns I guess. I'm pretty meh on the whole thing. Was more disappointed to lose Pettine than I'd be to lose Daboll. We could do better. We could do worse. But I absolutely do not view him as some great asset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: and water bugs in space the chance of this happening? zero point zero Chance of what happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Max Fischer said: Chance of what happening? Bills. 255 ppg. Under Daboll. Next year. 10 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Daboll is a much better OC than most Bills fans believe. Each coach gets a fair amount of deserved criticism but Daboll should get much more credit for this years success than he’s received. If Daboll stays, I firmly believe that next season’s team will average over 25 points a game. why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Maine-iac said: If Chan had brought in Pettine or Schwartz like Marrone did he might have had a chance. We just couldn't play defense under his watch. That was Chan’s fault. He stood by George Edwards after a disastrous first year as DC, and it ended up costing him in year two. He ended up firing Edwards anyway. Then rather than trying to bring in a new defensive mind, he simply promoted Dave Wannstedt to DC. Wannstedt was the coach of the linebackers who certainly were not standouts. Of course, Wannstedt sucked and Chan got fired the next year. He just never could get the defense in order 12 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Daboll is a much better OC than most Bills fans believe. Each coach gets a fair amount of deserved criticism but Daboll should get much more credit for this years success than he’s received. If Daboll stays, I firmly believe that next season’s team will average over 25 points a game. It’s insane how much blame he gets for Josh Allen’s failings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills. 255 ppg. Under Daboll. Next year. why Really, 0% chance? Accomplishments: - Helped turn Allen into a competent, improving QB. Allen is an entirely new QB. - Created a new offense out of whole cloth with 9 new starters. Including three rookies. That is not easy. - Daboll has demonstrated he can adapt and improve. - He has created decent game plans that have not been well-excuted. - Daboll continues to add new wrinkles each week. Next season: - Offense should return every starter but Spain with possible improvement at RT (assuming goes to G) - The offense will have entire season and an additional off-season. Chance to massage and add to the playbook. - Still a chance to add weapons at WR and RB as well as develop Knox, Sweeney and Singletary. - Allen has demonstrated he could improve even more and even if 10% better this team could put up a lot more points under Daboll. Edited December 31, 2019 by Max Fischer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 hours ago, StHustle said: Daboll has 0% chance of getting an NFL HC gig this offseason. NCAA is a possibility but I don't think that's likely. Also, what has Shurmur shown offensively the last two years that has you so confident he would be an "excellent OC" for us? Never underestimate the Haslams and Snyders’ ability to do something stupid with personnel or staffing.... They run their own idiocracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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