Todd McShay Mock Draft 1.0 - Video

[billykay]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

 

Let's not confuse height for contested catch skills. Kelvin Benjamin is 6'5, Tyreek Hill is 5'10. I understand your sentiment, but height alone isn't the best indicator. If I could chose any WR in the world to put on this team it would be Mike Evans cause he's the missing piece. But if Mike Evans isn't available and someone like Stefon Diggs is, I'll still take the player whose gonna make plays.

IMO, Evans is the best route runner & receiver in the league.

[Watkins101]

1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said:

I would love to see us trade out of the first round and pick up a 2021 1st rounder. 

 

Something like this?

 

Bills: 1st + 5th + 6th + 6th

 

for

 

2nd, 4th + 2021 1st

 

We'd have the following picks and still room to maneuver up and down the board.

 

2nd

2nd

3rd

4th

4th

5th

6th

 

Also keep an eye out for Denzel Mims... I have a weird hunch he is the WR that we end up with..

Our pick won't have that much value.

[JGMcD2]

1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said:

Folks might be “claiming” that but it’s not true. There is a drop off at WR after the top 5 guys. 

 

Why wouldn’t we want an impact player for cheap this year? We have $90M in space, very few FA’s coming up and you want to punt on the first round to save money? What was the pain of 2018 for if we are gonna try to save cash in 2019?

We’re not touching the top 5 guys where we will be picking anyway. 
 

Moving back 5 - 10 spots really isn’t going to hinder your chances at getting an impact player. We’re already at the back end of the first round, the separation between end of the first round and beginning of the second round is less compared to that of beginning of the first and end of the first. 

[hjnick]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

 

I think the depth of the WR class (I've heard some guys say 25 WR's in the top 100 prospects.... 25!!) will cause some teams to wait on WR's which could push one of the top 5 or so to us. I personally wouldn't hate waiting till the second round for a WR if there's an Edge rusher, TE, or OL that we want/is a better value. 

 

I think as you can see with the Baltimore attack.  A great TE that can catch and block is worth a high draft pick.  I know we are kinda happy with our TE's right now, but if we can get another great one, let's do it...

[buffalojedwardo]

1 hour ago, StHustle said:

23. Buffalo Bills

Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State

Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here.

looks like a faster Stevie Johnson which im thrilled with. Also love that kid from CO as well. 

[BillsFan17]

We are going to be selecting in a spot, where, you can kind of justify a handful of positions, and no real head and shoulders separation (as of now)..

 

i.e. Higgins, Jefferson, Shenault, Aiyuk, Ruggs, etc... are almost all going to be ranked in a cluster, so much depth in the class.

[ColoradoBills]

Beane's MO is to use FA to go for needs.

I see him trying to nab at least 1 if not 2 of OLB, WR and Edge in FA along with a large bodied RB.

The draft will be decided after FA.

[JGMcD2]

2 minutes ago, Watkins101 said:

Our pick won't have that much value.

Philadelphia trade their 1st (32) and 4th (132) to the Ravens for 2nd (52) , 4th (125) and 2019 2nd in the Lamar Jackson deal time move back 20 spots in 2018.

 

Green Bay traded their 1st (29) to Cleveland for their 2nd (33) and 4th (103) in 2017.

 

LA Rams traded their 1st (31) and 6th (203) to the Falcons for their 2nd (45) and 3rd (79) in 2019. 

Maybe we’d have to kick in our 4th instead... I didn’t do in-depth research before my post and just went off the top of my head on what the value would be roughly... wasn’t too far off  

 

 

[hjnick]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

 

I have a sneaky suspicion that he will the guy if they get a crack at him and want to go WR, and I wouldn't be mad at all. I think Daboll will fall in love with the idea of running him on sweeps, and in the backfield, and moving him around like a chess piece. 

 

 

He's definitely a burner, but look at this highlight video:

 

 

 

Look at how many times the ball is hanging in the air between defenders and he goes up and beats them to the catch point. That's contested catches. 

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we had a WR that Josh Allen couldn't overthrow???

[BringBackOrton]

7 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

We’re not touching the top 5 guys where we will be picking anyway. 
 

Moving back 5 - 10 spots really isn’t going to hinder your chances at getting an impact player. We’re already at the back end of the first round, the separation between end of the first round and beginning of the second round is less compared to that of beginning of the first and end of the first. 

Sure but it’s still a separation. This is not a team that needs decent players, it’s a team that needs stars. 

 

Trading back made made sense when we had holes all over the roster, and a third, fourth or fifth round player may start. We don’t have that anymore. We need a star WR, not a JAG. 

 

This is is a year I would consider trading up long before I’d trade down.

[Doc]

Tua at 4th overall?  Don't see it.  And Chase Young said he's planning on returning to school.

[ehfeuh57]

1 hour ago, bobobonators said:

That last sentence. 
 

A cornerback with our first pick when we have White and Wallace? Geeze. Is that the standard finishing sentence used for every team, or does he actually think we need a corner?

Every team can always use another good corner

 

theres things called injuries also

[4merper4mer]

In what round will Clyde Edwards-Helaire go?  Because he is a perfect fit with Singletary and the Bills.  Perfect.

[ehfeuh57]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

Tua at 4th overall?  Don't see it.  And Chase Young said he's planning on returning to school.

close to Zero % chance of this

[947]

Aiyuk is listed at 5'11" on ESPN, but he's listed as 6'1" some places. No idea which is true, but he doesn't look 6'1" on tape.

 

Say what ypu want about height not mattering, but I can't see us taking a sub- 6'2" WR in round 1.

[Logic]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

I would also pick into the WR position group multiple times. As we really only have 2 WRs right now. 

I think you nailed it earlier: Pay premium bucks for an edge rusher and sign some defensive depth in free agency.

Then spend just about every damn pick in the draft on the offense.

I know it doesn't work that way, it's not that simplistic. However, this defense is already very good and is full of budding stars, some of whom haven't even hit their prime yet. I want to see that type of talent infusion on offense. Beane and company got a good start on the process with Singeltary and Knox, now we need to see some legitimate receiving talent brought in. I'd also love to see them draft a bruising running back in the mid to late rounds to complement Motor. We can't have Allen be our power running red zone option his entire career. ?

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I think you nailed it earlier: Pay premium bucks for an edge rusher and sign some defensive depth in free agency.

Then spend just about every damn pick in the draft on the offense.

I know it doesn't work that way, it's not that simplistic. However, this defense is already very good and is full of budding stars, some of whom haven't even hit their prime yet. I want to see that type of talent infusion on offense. Beane and company got a good start on the process with Singeltary and Knox, now we need to see some legitimate receiving talent brought in. I'd also love to see them draft a bruising running back in the mid to late rounds to complement Motor. We can't have Allen be our power running red zone option his entire career. ?

Zack Moss will do and will be available in 4th or below 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 words....

 

best... player... available...

 

Qbs will sneak into the top 20, there will probably be like 4 or 5 taken before Buffalo picks.  Go for a star in round 1 - don't care where he plays.  

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

I think you nailed it earlier: Pay premium bucks for an edge rusher and sign some defensive depth in free agency.

Then spend just about every damn pick in the draft on the offense.

I know it doesn't work that way, it's not that simplistic. However, this defense is already very good and is full of budding stars, some of whom haven't even hit their prime yet. I want to see that type of talent infusion on offense. Beane and company got a good start on the process with Singeltary and Knox, now we need to see some legitimate receiving talent brought in. I'd also love to see them draft a bruising running back in the mid to late rounds to complement Motor. We can't have Allen be our power running red zone option his entire career. ?

 

Yannick Ngakoue?

[Mark Vader]

Todd McShay has both A.J. Epenesa & Yetur Gross-Matos going at the very end of the first round.

 

I would take either one of those guys over Aiyuk, and take my chances on a WR in the 2nd round.

2 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

Can't even get to the playoff game before the mock draft nonsense starts.

It's just something fun to talk about during the middle of the week.

 

College Football's regular season is over, so it's a good time to start talking about who will be available come draft weekend.

[Logic]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yannick Ngakoue?

I liked seeing the recent dysfunction in Jacksonville with the illegal treatments or whatever it is they were doing. It makes me think maybe Ngakue will want to get the hell out of there rather than re-sign. Adding him to this defense would be....just wow.

[Kmart128]

Its such a good year to have a need at WR... and you know one of the top guys will likely fall just do to shear numbers... a lot like Greg Little and Cody Ford falling last year with all the olinemen

[Rc2catch]

Ooooof this is my least favorite part of the year in football. I never understood making 20 mock drafts and all the gm’s and scouts on here fighting over who is best at what pick and then throwing temper tantrums when we don’t pick who they want. Especially this early when a million things change. I’m on to New England now ??

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I liked seeing the recent dysfunction in Jacksonville with the illegal treatments or whatever it is they were doing. It makes me think maybe Ngakue will want to get the hell out of there rather than re-sign. Adding him to this defense would be....just wow.

 

Ngakoue would be the massive move I would make to add some talent to the team. I think against elite playoff teams this team has 3 big weaknesses. A WR opposite Brown that can command attention, A prime time pass rusher off the edge, and a corner opposite White. If they can retain Shaq and Phillips while adding a big time pass rusher like Ngakoue the D-line would be ready to compete against any O-line in the league while still having that depth that allows them to rotate players. I think they can find a number 2 corner for a mid-sized signing and then address WR in the draft early. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Yeah, yeah, I know "wHo CaReS aBoUT mOcK DrAFtS?"

 

But they help get an idea of which players may be available, and which of our personal favorites might get scooped by another team.

 

Anyways, here's the breakdown on 1st Round WRs...

 

3. Washington Redskins Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama

6. Arizona Cardinals CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma

14. Cleveland Browns Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson

15. Indianapolis Colts Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

16. Las Vegas Raiders (from CHI) Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado

18. Philadelphia Eagles Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama

 

23. Buffalo Bills

Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State

Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here.

[HOUSE]

I will bet you anything. Buffalo will draft for depth. Every starting need to come in free agency

[BringBackOrton]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Yeah, yeah, I know "wHo CaReS aBoUT mOcK DrAFtS?"

 

But they help get an idea of which players may be available, and which of our personal favorites might get scooped by another team.

 

Anyways, here's the breakdown on 1st Round WRs...

 

3. Washington Redskins Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama

6. Arizona Cardinals CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma

14. Cleveland Browns Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson

15. Indianapolis Colts Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

16. Las Vegas Raiders (from CHI) Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado

18. Philadelphia Eagles Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama

 

23. Buffalo Bills

Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State

Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here.

Hmm, I don’t see it shaking out that way.

 

I don’t see the Colts going WR personally.

[Dr. Who]

I really hope they consider trading up a bit. Jeudy and Lamb will likely cost too much, but I'd prefer all those fellas projected to go in the teens.

[BringBackOrton]

Just now, HOUSE said:

I will bet you anything. Buffalo will draft for depth. Every starting need to come in free agency

There are not going to be many dependable WR’s in FA.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I really hope they consider trading up a bit. Jeudy and Lamb will likely cost too much, but I'd prefer all those fellas projected to go in the teens.

 

I'd rather see them stay at their spot, and use all of the 9 picks. Double-dip on WR. One in the 1st, and another around rounds 3-5.

[Solomon Grundy]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Yeah, yeah, I know "wHo CaReS aBoUT mOcK DrAFtS?"

 

But they help get an idea of which players may be available, and which of our personal favorites might get scooped by another team.

 

Anyways, here's the breakdown on 1st Round WRs...

 

3. Washington Redskins Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama

6. Arizona Cardinals CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma

14. Cleveland Browns Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson

15. Indianapolis Colts Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

16. Las Vegas Raiders (from CHI) Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado

18. Philadelphia Eagles Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama

 

23. Buffalo Bills

Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State

Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here.

I'd be ticked if the Bills make this selection at 23. Not when they could get Tylan Wallace/Tyler Johnson later.  Grab AJ Green in FA and let either learn under Green/Smoke tutelage. At 23, I want someone who's gonna play day one. Safe to say I'm not a McShay fan

Edited December 17, 2019 by the skycap

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said:

There are not going to be many dependable WR’s in FA.

 

Then there will probably be a trade. Year 3 is usually a depth draft UNLESS a real stud falls

[Solomon Grundy]

6 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

There are not going to be many dependable WR’s in FA.

??? AJ Green? He's shutting it down for next season. Will be fresh and Dr. doesn't see any long term effect from injury. Go get him Brandon.

[Like A Mofo]

Maybe this 2020 off-season is where Buffalo trades that 1st round pick to get an established player who can have a big impact right away

[Logic]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Ngakoue would be the massive move I would make to add some talent to the team. I think against elite playoff teams this team has 3 big weaknesses. A WR opposite Brown that can command attention, A prime time pass rusher off the edge, and a corner opposite White. If they can retain Shaq and Phillips while adding a big time pass rusher like Ngakoue the D-line would be ready to compete against any O-line in the league while still having that depth that allows them to rotate players. I think they can find a number 2 corner for a mid-sized signing and then address WR in the draft early. 

Can't disagree with any of this.

#2 CB is more of a need than people let on. Levi Wallace is a pretty good player, but he's also one of the weakest link the Bills have on defense. There's no reason not to add someone talented to compete with him. At worst, you then have a very deep cornerback room, which is never a bad thing in the 2019 NFL. It's less of a need than Edge Rusher and Wide Receiver, sure, but it's certainly in the top 3-5 needs for the offseason.

[Dr. Who]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'd rather see them stay at their spot, and use all of the 9 picks. Double-dip on WR. One in the 1st, and another around rounds 3-5.

Supposedly it's a very deep year for wr, so the double-dip idea is sound. I am still inclined to spend some draft capital to move up if Beane determines there is a stud wr within reach, but unlikely to fall to them. We particularly need a big, fast wr who can track the long ball, but an overall increase in playmaking talent at offensive skill positions would make this team very dangerous and facilitate Allen making another leap forward. Of course, we also have other needs including Edge rusher, lb, possibly cb, rt (imo) as Ford still looks to me a more natural guard -- though maybe not, apparently he's been a lot better recently, so what do I know? Free agency will alter the needs list, so what the top priorities are will likely change somewhat.

Edited December 18, 2019 by Dr. Who

[Penfield45]

19 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:

Maybe this 2020 off-season is where Buffalo trades that 1st round pick to get an established player who can have a big impact right away

 

wouldn't mind trading a 1st for a top WR. would look at one of the 2 WR's on the Bucs or OBJ. 

 

Trade for a WR and draft one in like round 3. this whole offseason should be focused on offense. I'll puke if we take a CB or DE in the 1st round and have to watch another bottom 5 offense next season 

Edited December 17, 2019 by Penfield45

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

Can't disagree with any of this.

#2 CB is more of a need than people let on. Levi Wallace is a pretty good player, but he's also one of the weakest link the Bills have on defense. There's no reason not to add someone talented to compete with him. At worst, you then have a very deep cornerback room, which is never a bad thing in the 2019 NFL. It's less of a need than Edge Rusher and Wide Receiver, sure, but it's certainly in the top 3-5 needs for the offseason.

 

A WR opposite Brown and a front line edge rusher are the two biggest most glaring needs beyond resigning our own players. Besides maybe Amari Cooper I don't see any front line WR's on the market. However there are several edge rushers who could fit that Bill so to speak. I think that given that the team could have 100 million in cap space if they cut Kroft and Murphy (two players of marginal value) this team could both resign Shaq and Phillips, extend Milano, Dawkins and White while also adding a big contract and a mid-level sized contract (Might have to let Spain walk as something has to give.) 

 

But I really can see 2020 being a year where an already good team keeps its talent and adds the 2-3 key pieces they need to get over the hump. I trust Beane to add 1-2 pieces via the draft (along with depth) but I think they need to add one big frontline piece via free agency in order to complement what they do via the draft and what they already have on the roster. 

[Cripple Creek]

32 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I will bet you anything. Buffalo will draft for depth. Every starting need to come in free agency

I'll take that bet.

 

Beane will be very busy between extending our own and FA.  I agree that FA will be a big part, but, because he'll do so well the team will be able to package picks to move up and draft an impact player.  The window won't stay open for very long.  2020 & 2021 are key.

[BringBackOrton]

33 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

 

Then there will probably be a trade. Year 3 is usually a depth draft UNLESS a real stud falls

I’m not sure who they will trade for that isn’t a long shot.

 

30 minutes ago, the skycap said:

??? AJ Green? He's shutting it down for next season. Will be fresh and Dr. doesn't see any long term effect from injury. Go get him Brandon.

 AJ Green isn’t shutting anything down, he hasn’t been able to play since midway through LAST season. And the reports are the Bengals will tag him if they don’t extend him. They don’t want their best target walking right before Burrow gets there.

1 minute ago, HOUSE said:

I will bet you a million Zillion dollars, there may be a stud or two but impact players will come in FA. Buffalo will draft late so you are talking less talented players AND the needs are few.

 

 

 

 

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If the needs are few, why would you target depth?? 

 

The FA class isn’t looking that star studded. Clowney, Amari and Green will likely be retained by their teams. What big name FA WR will be gettable? 

 

I’m hopeful for Yannick like anyone else but that’s one big name pass rusher and a lot of teams with cash who will compete for him.