SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 So it looks like the Broncos' O is horrible on 3rd down and horrible in the red zone. Plays to our defensive strengths pretty well I'd say. Take the under in a 23-10 Buffalo win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, eball said: So it looks like the Broncos' O is horrible on 3rd down and horrible in the red zone. Plays to our defensive strengths pretty well I'd say. Take the under in a 23-10 Buffalo win. This might be BAllen's last game as Lock is set to return next week. He might play fearless......<lol> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Micah Hyde, on his regular monday appearnace on that terrible Schlepp and the bulldog, said that no one is using the term "must win" this week, but that the team knows they need to come out strong and put this team down. Take care of business. That was encouraging to hear because you know the players are treating this game as a must win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Recap of my quick take of Broncos Vikings All-22 It was a literal tale of the 2 halves, both in scoring and play design. In the first half, Vikings came out dead set on establishing the run game early and were met with a stone wall. When Cousins dropped back to pass he rarely looked beyond the LOS, let alone past the down marker. The Broncos front 4 are legit and I honestly don't know why Zimmer insisted on bnaging his head against that wall for the entire first half. Personnel-wise, this could be the best line the Bills face this year (and that's without Chubb!). Cousins was rattled in the entire half and Cook could not get going at all. Their best and longest deep shot of the half was called back on a penalty. On the other side of the ball, I thought Vikings played too conservatively and allowed Denver's run game to put B. Allen in manageable down distances and he hit a couple of deep shots, and was helped by 2 huge PI penalties. For some reason Fangio likes to use Fant as the end-round ball carrier, but he just doesn't have the speed to truly make that play work. I like the aggressive pressure game plan that the Browns deployed against B Allen. The only reason that it didn't work was that Browns tackled like crap. I also didn't see many Vikings stunts and alignment changes to try to confuse B. Allen at the line. In the second half, everything changed. Vikings abandoned the commitment to the run and went exclusively no-huddle. Cousins started looking deep to rack up yards and points. The key was getting the ball out early (obviously) because the Broncos pass rush from the front 4 is tough. That happened only when Cousins started identifying the mismatches in coverage. If Broncos have a weakness, it's in the secondary. On the defensive side, Vikings started to sell out to the run, daring B Allen to beat them. It worked. Although they got burned on one long Sutton completion, they didn't let him score and eventually the drive petered out. So after 2 games, there's enough game film on B Allen to attack the weaknesses. Broncos absolutely need to get the run game going to put him in a better position. Vikings D is in the upper tier in the league, but Broncos had 74 rush yards in the first half. They only got 50 in the second when they needed to milk the drives. The second half adjustments were huge because it put the burden back on B Allen and he couldn't deliver. It's also interesting to see the differing approaches to pre-snap movements between Vikings & Bills defenses. Vikings essentially stay in a straight 4 DL formation, maybe moving the DTs by a step or two prior to the snap. The Vikings may have more overall talent in the front 4 than Bills, but the straight line approach wasn't enough in the first half against a QB who's still queasy in the pocket. The Bills OTOH are much more active with pre-snap movements, not just with the DLs, but bringing LBs to the line. Just like the Bills alignments confused Dolphins' young OL, I expect them to have the same effect on B Allen, even if the rush doesn't get to him. This game could also come down to Tre's ability to cover Sutton, which would allow the safeties to cheat a bit. X Rhodes didn't have a great statistical game covering Sutton, getting beat on a few throws and had a costly PI in the endzone (granted Sutton caught two amazing deep balls in razor thin coverage). On offense, the blueprint is also clear and was set last week. It will be criminal if Daboll plays #42 & #85 for more than token snaps on Sunday. They will go nowhere against the Broncos stout line, as the better Vikings' run game fully demonstrated its futility against that defense. Almost by necessity Bills have to come out throwing with a no huddle attack. The proverbial pressure will be on the good Allen, and Bills will need to get their playmakers involved early and often. If the Bills get an early lead, B Allen is not the type of QB and their offense isn't built to bring his team back. Edited November 20, 2019 by GG 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Spread em out, get the ball out quickly. Stop the run and make em pass. Buffalo 31-3. Defensive TD. Multiple TO. 8-3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 In reading a preview of this game just now, it was notable that the Broncos defense struggles against hurry-up offenses. Given that fact, and given that the Bills offense moves the ball most effectively when in hurry-up mode, it seems obvious what the gameplan should be this Sunday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAteam Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Micah Hyde, on his regular monday appearnace on that terrible Schlepp and the bulldog, said that no one is using the term "must win" this week, but that the team knows they need to come out strong and put this team down. Take care of business. That was encouraging to hear because you know the players are treating this game as a must win. Certainly our season isn't over if we lose this one but it's important to not force games like NE and BAL to actually be must-wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Harlan and Gannon, eh? Wonder what their thoughts are on the various mustache styles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Got to feel like teams getting a couple weeks of take on this new broncos QB can only help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 May have already been posted, but pretty cool story on ESPN about NFL grips. Josh in the article. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27349247/patrick-mahomes-tom-brady-lamar-jackson-reveal-stories-their-football-grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Dude. Miami isn't even a bottom-10 pass defense this year, let alone worst all-time. It's totally fine to point out that Miami is a bad team; it's ridiculous and unnecessary to state total falsehoods for the sake of marginalizing Allen's performance yesterday. Gotta disagree with the Miami defense characterization. Using DVOA, Miami has the 32nd ranked pass defense, doing a whopping 42.3% worse job than what would be expected from the league average pass defense this season. They’re also ranked 32nd overall and 29th against the rush. We beat a bad team with a putrid pass defense and Allen help us win that game. That’s what was supposed to happen. Good. But that game isn’t going to define Allen. Let’s see what he’s got this week. I’m sure there will be plenty to argue about regardless of the outcome. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef/2019 Edited November 19, 2019 by BarleyNY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Logic said: In reading a preview of this game just now, it was notable that the Broncos defense struggles against hurry-up offenses. Given that fact, and given that the Bills offense moves the ball most effectively when in hurry-up mode, it seems obvious what the gameplan should be this Sunday. Yup - I really hope we see that up-tempo 11 personnel for the rest of the season. Obviously certain other packages will rotate in, but Singletary, Knox, Brown, Beasley and McKenzie are so easily our best playmakers.. Mix in Gore, Kroft and Foster for different looks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: ESPN's Power rankings 12. Buffalo Bills (7-3) Week 11 ranking: 13 Most underrated player: Jordan Phillips, DT Phillips is a known commodity among the Bills fan base, but the rest of the league likely will get to know him this coming offseason, as he has played himself into a sizable payday. Despite initially taking a backseat to 2019 first-round pick Ed Oliver, the upcoming free agent trails only Aaron Donald in sacks among defensive tackles with seven and has been a much-needed presence in Buffalo's interior pass rush. -- Marcel Louis-Jacques Phillips, White, and Hyde are easily the MVP's of the defense this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 7:33 AM, BillnutinHouston said: Ford vs. Miller is a terrifying thought. It shouldn’t be as terrifying for Bills fans as Hughes vs Garrett Bolles is for Broncos fans! Seriously, this is the game to attack that Broncos O line. At times this year it’s looked every bit as bad as the Bills O line did last season. (A little better in the run game maybe, but awful in pass protection) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: It shouldn’t be as terrifying for Bills fans as Hughes vs Garrett Bolles is for Broncos fans! Seriously, this is the game to attack that Broncos O line. At times this year it’s looked every bit as bad as the Bills O line did last season. (A little better in the run game maybe, but awful in pass protection) My guess is Lee Smith will be on the field alot this Sunday Edited November 19, 2019 by Bronxbomber21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: My guess is Lee Smith will be on the field alot this Sunday Please god no, I’d rather have Knox blocking 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, GG said: The key was getting the ball out early (obviously) because the Broncos pass rush from the front 4 is tough. That happened only when Cousins started identifying the mismatches in coverage. If Broncos have a weakness, it's in the secondary. *** This game could also come down to Tre's ability to cover Sutton, which would allow the safeties to cheat a bit. X Rhodes didn't have a great statistical game covering Sutton, getting beat on a few throws and had a costly PI in the endzone (granted Sutton caught two amazing deep balls in razor thin coverage). Thanks for the excellent summary! Two big points highlighted above. 1. Courtland Sutton is everything we hoped Zay Jones would be. And Brandon Allen has learned one thing in his two starts - get the ball in his vicinity and let him make a play. 2. Most fans remember the Broncos defense for Von’s pass rush and excellent DB coverage. The pass rush is coming back Shelby Harris is their Jordan Phillips, helping to make up for the loss of Bradley Chubb), but other than Chris Harris there isn’t much talent at CB. So that former strength is now a weakness to be exploited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 21 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Not for nothing, but he absolutely mauled a DLman on Gore's 4th down conversion yesterday I believe DiMarco only got 4 snaps this past Sunday, but he also annihilated an LB on that same play as well. It was great to see since our short yardage play execution was uncharacteristically poor against Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 18 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: That guarantees he won’t be in Denver next year. I would take him as a back up over Barkley to be honest. Hell I would even welcome back Fitzpatrick to be Allen’s backup over Barkley, not saying Barkley’s horrible or anything it’s just that if Allen went down I want a capable number 2 Veteran back up Barkley is more of a number 3 option. Broncos are screwed with Flacco's contract for 2020, regardless if the keep him or release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Thanks for the excellent summary! Two big points highlighted above. 1. Courtland Sutton is everything we hoped Zay Jones would be. And Brandon Allen has learned one thing in his two starts - get the ball in his vicinity and let him make a play. 2. Most fans remember the Broncos defense for Von’s pass rush and excellent DB coverage. The pass rush is coming back Shelby Harris is their Jordan Phillips, helping to make up for the loss of Bradley Chubb), but other than Chris Harris there isn’t much talent at CB. So that former strength is now a weakness to be exploited. Thx. Shelby Harris was a beast in the first half. The interior will have their hands full with him. Agree on the DBs. Cousins was able to find mismatches and he realistically only had Diggs & Rudolph to work with, until Cook finally got underneath space. Bills should roll with three wide and Knox to get the lead. It won't happen with DeMarco & Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: My guess is Lee Smith will be on the field alot this Sunday so, 2-3 holding calls then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: Please god no, I’d rather have Knox blocking Both Knox and Kroft are good blockers. It doesn't seem necessary to roll Lee Smith out there when we can stay with our preferred up-tempo personnel and still have a tight end very capable of helping out on the edge and being a weapon in the passing game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: My guess is Lee Smith will be on the field alot this Sunday I am sure they’ll be chipping with RBs and TEs all day Edited November 19, 2019 by BarleyNY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, GG said: Thx. Shelby Harris was a beast in the first half. The interior will have their hands full with him. Agree on the DBs. Cousins was able to find mismatches and he realistically only had Diggs & Rudolph to work with, until Cook finally got underneath space. Bills should roll with three wide and Knox to get the lead. It won't happen with DeMarco & Smith. Minnys interior offensive line is also banged up and backups...def. not saying Shelby Harris isnt a really good NT, but our interior is superior to Minnys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffaloboyinATL Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: LOL. My daughter is 10 years old and this review sounds like it could have been written by someone in her class. "Josh Allen is good. He plays hard. This game will be tough." There, I wrote 3 sentences... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: LOL. My daughter is 10 years old and this review sounds like it could have been written by someone in her class. "Josh Allen is good. He plays hard. This game will be tough." There, I wrote 3 sentences... Same as a McDermott and most players/coaches interviews.. Nothing new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, PaattMaann said: Minnys interior offensive line is also banged up and backups...def. not saying Shelby Harris isnt a really good NT, but our interior is superior to Minnys Nonsense, we have no room for facts here! you're supposed to be self-deprecating calling each position the best in the NFL(or at the least better than the Bills), using words like "They're desperate, they're hungry"; "i dont know... it's going to be a really tough game". someone here actually said BA "looked good" sunday... his statline? 43% completion, 1 TD and 1 INT... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, Say When... said: someone here actually said BA "looked good" sunday... his statline? 43% completion, 1 TD and 1 INT... Yeah, I'm not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: And he's pasty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEra Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: And he's pasty too. Lol. I agree. My first attempt at a light hearted fun topic gets closed. Disappointing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I am not sure I understand the fear of the Broncos other than the usual BBFS. They are a well deserved 3/7 starting an unheralded (to be kind) rookie QB. If the Bills cannot take care of this team at home, they do not deserve to be in the playoffs. This one will not be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: LOL. My daughter is 10 years old and this review sounds like it could have been written by someone in her class. "Josh Allen is good. He plays hard. This game will be tough." There, I wrote 3 sentences... You a tweet critic? 5 minutes ago, FLFan said: I am not sure I understand the fear of the Broncos other than the usual BBFS. They are a well deserved 3/7 starting an unheralded (to be kind) rookie QB. If the Bills cannot take care of this team at home, they do not deserve to be in the playoffs. This one will not be close. Seriously, we can't overlook Denver. I think they were leading at the start of the 4th in four of their losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Was he going to tell him to slide and get out of bounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Sounds like Chris Harris has something he wants to say.... Maybe he can finish that thought as Josh Allen is trucking him for another red zone TD. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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