PromoTheRobot Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, reddogblitz said: If there is so much interest in football in London, why don't they have their own league? As I recall, the London Monarchs were one of the first teams in the WAFL to fold. The WAFL? The West Australia Football League? I think you mean WLAF, and later NFL Europe. The Monarchs lasted all 8 seasons and was probably the most successful franchise along with the Frankfurt Galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I am all for a team in London. The Chargers and Jags both make sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I am all for a team in London. The Chargers and Jags both make sense. They do - for slightly different reasons. The Chargers currently have no roots and there is no funding to take them back to San Diego so they are basically homeless with no existing stadium tie that they can't get out of. The Jags because Jacksonville has always felt like a bit of a meh NFL city and they have already done a lot of work in building the brand and fanbase over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnnyGold said: Four divisions, each with 8 teams. The Pacific Division Seahawks, Raiders, 49ers, Rams, Cardinals, Broncos, Chiefs, Bengals (not a great fit) The Gulf Bay Division Cowboys, Texans, Dolphins, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Saints, Falcons, Titans (not a great fit) The Great Lakes Division Vikings, Packers, Bears, Lions, Bills, Steelers, Browns, Colts (not a great fit) The Atlantic Division Patriots, Jets, Giants, Ravens, Redskins, Eagles, London, Panthers Scheduling: All scheduling based on the previous years standings: you play half of your division twice (top four finishers play a home and away vs each other, bottom four finishers play a home and away vs each other) for 6 games; you play the other half of your division 1 time (bottom finisher plays top 4 teams once) for 4 games; interdivisionally, all first and second place finishers play one another, all 3rd and 4th place finishers play one another, all 5th and 6th place finishers play one another, all 7th and 8th place finishers play one another--for an additional 6 games. Playoffs: No separation of conferences, as there are no conferences. 12 teams make the playoffs. Each division winner gets a bye. 8 wild card teams are seeded based on record, then re-seeded for the second round. Reseeding again for the 3rd round of the playoffs, and the Super Bowl should then theoretically feature the two best teams. Your dreaming, they are never getting rid of the conferences. Plus the way you have it schedule, too much of a schedule imbalance, top 4 teams play each other twice & bottom 4 play each other twice, I mean come on that is not fair. Penalizing a team like that because they are good. I will chalk this one up as another boneheaded idea. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Should the Chargers pursue the move, the NFL could help build the team’s bridge to London by transferring the $650 million relocation fee it still must pay for the L.A. move to a London relocation. The Chargers also could switch divisions with the Houston Texans — the Chargers to the AFC South and the Texans to the AFC West — or perhaps the league could move the Chargers to the AFC East, Miami Dolphins to the AFC South and Texans to the AFC West. Well, Miami IS in the South. Maybe they can toss the Patriots out too. LOL North - Keep the same ? * Baltimore is more east than north / central. East - Buff, Jets, Putz*** and Chargers? South - Miami, Jax, Tenny and Houston Mid West / Mountain - Colts, Denver, KC and Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Dolphins "rivalry" is dead 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Dolphins "rivalry" is dead It's been a corpse for decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Simplest solution would to move us to AFC North, Texans to AFC West, and the Ravens to AFC South. East: Pats, Fins, Jets, Chargers West: Chiefs, Texans, Raiders, Broncos South: Colts, Titans, Ravens, Jaguars North: Bills, Steelers, Browns, Bengals This ^^^ except switch Fins and Ravens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Only if means the nfl finally realigns the division(s) and we end up in a division with Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Detroit. This is what makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Move back to St. Louis. I live and hour away now, would be nice to head down for a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 How does Shocker Khan feel about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 would make for fun annual trips there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Buffalo belongs in the east not the Rust belt North / Central / Mid West . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 In this brave new world, I'd move the Bills to the AFC North. The geographic location of Buffalo in regards to Cleveland and Pittsburg could create a fantastic regional rivalry. If the NFL is going to screw around with a permanent team in England, then why not try new things? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Virgil said: Would the Pats leave the division? If so, sign me up. It’s only a 6 hour flight. They can suck it up. we’d be the least coastal team. Might be us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: How does Shocker Khan feel about this? The Chargers get 8 games Jax gets 8 games. When in the states these teams share the Jax stadium the London team will have to have a schedule of 4 Home, 4 Away rinse repeat. weekly back and forth won't cut it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, SoTier said: Agreed. LA couldn't support 2 teams the first time around, so I'm not sure why the NFL suits thought it would work again except that stadium boosters/developers sold owners a bill of goods. I don't think that the cities you mentioned are viable options because they aren't big enough metros, population wise, to support an NFL franchise in this era. I think that San Diego and St Louis are both viable, and probably Oakland as well. Those cities didn't lose their franchises because the fans didn't support their teams but because the owners couldn't strong arm the local governments into building them new stadiums. Agree with this except Portland is probably large enough (25th largest Metro area in the US) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2nd team in buffalo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: What rivalries? I never knew the First Galactic Empire vs. the Rebel Alliance was a ‘rivalry’. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 The NFL needs to sit the owners of the Jags, Titans and Chargers and figure something out or buy out two of these franchises and dissolve them. I think a big assumption on the part of the NFL and its owners is that greener pastures remain for the NFL. What if there aren't any? I don't think the NFL is willing to subsidize a full time NFL franchise in London. Any owner who jumps into the deep end of that unknown will want financial subsidies and guarantees that will equal or exceed just buying out the franchise and dissolving it. Mexico and Mexico City have a very unsettled security situation. St. Louis has failed twice with NFL franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Anyone ask Shad Khan what he thinks of this brilliant idea? Make the teams visiting London have a ‘bye’ week immediately after; send them back to the States on a chartered ocean liner. (on Khan’s dime.). NFL can run those cruises like they do with celebrities. ? * “Look, George, we’re at Jermaine Whitehead’s table! Ask him how he had such a bad game!” Edited November 5, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I’m all for it. We had a blast in London when the Bills played there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 They need to give up on this old rivalries thing anyways with the division realignment. The Bills should be in a division with Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and AFC East Patriots, Jets, Chargers, Giants AFC North Bills, Steelers, Browns, Bengals AFCSouth Dolphins, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Falcons AFC West Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Texans NFC East Eagles, Redskins, Ravens, Panthers NFC North Packers, Bears, Lions, Vikings NFC South Titans, Saints, Colts, Cowboys NFC West Cardinals, Rams, 49ers, Seahawks The Colts are really the only team misaligned but they have no spot in the NFC or AFC North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Warcodered said: It would suck to be the division stuck with the London team. Yeah, who would want an excuse to take a trip to London every fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 2 teams in LA is just not going to work. Their stadium was like 99 percent packers fans yesterday. They have no fan base! I don’t want London in the afc east though The NFL cares about one thing- large TV markets equating to increased revenue. I can’t stand the idea of a team going to London or Mexico. The logistics alone are brutal then a million other factors that have to be considered. Is is really sad imo. 49 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Buffalo belongs in the east not the Rust belt North / Central / Mid West . Geographically speaking we are in closer proximity for the AFC North- directly above Pittsburgh and due northeast of Cleveland. Baltimore belongs in the East and Miami belongs in the south- geographically of course ?♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Can't Portland, Salt Lake City, Columbus or Omaha get a team? Putting two franchises in LA is one of the dumbest ideas in the long list of dumb ideas. Dumber than Toronto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 What happens if a player’s passport is revoked? Or what if they don’t have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Move them to the AFC East then move the Bills to the AFC North with natural rivals Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Cincinnati can move to the west where they'd play against KC. I’d leave Cincinnati in the North. Move Miami to the South, Baltimore to the East, and Texans to the west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Kicking the Pats out for the Texans right now as Brady hits the end and Watson enters his prime strikes me as bad for the Bills. The Bills would never play in the Texans' division. I'm just imagining what it'd have been like to play in the AFC South the last half decade versus the division with Brady in it. Imagining a division where the biggest threat was the Houston team of the last few years - including a team that Peterman and the 90 mil dead cap Bills almost beat. I'm dreaming of a Great Lakes region type division - Buffalo, Pittsburgh/Cincy, Cleveland, Detroit We'd have 10 home playoff games in the next 10 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Dumber than Toronto! Yep! Omaha tiny, Columbus nestled between Cinci and Cleveland - Portland is Seahawks territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 As a long time NFL fan from the south border, I will be so angry if London gets a team before Mexico. We have far more fans and I guarantee know for sure all games would be sold out if they alocate a team anywhere in Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What happens if a player’s passport is revoked? Or what if they don’t have one? Or if they have had a felony charge? What it a lot of players do not want to live abroad? Maybe Phillip Rivers doesn’t dig fish n chips ?♂️ Edited November 5, 2019 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 hours ago, arcane said: Kick the Pats out. Man. Imagine being in one of those divisions where 10 and 11 wins can get you the win every time, and no team is any more scary than the Texans. We've missed out on so many good moments, fun rides, just because of the freaking division we're in. Particularly since ~2014. It's not ***** fair. Have to look ahead, not backward. Bellichek is getting up there in age, Brady is about to retire. They’re going into the gutter. The AFCE is where you want to be with Miami, NE, and NYJ. Keep the Pats before you get the Eagles with Wentz, NYG with Jones, the Browns with a real head coach, etc. It’ll be fun to knock around the Brady-less Pats for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 IMHO i wish the entire london/mexico thing would just go away !! This is an american game let's leave it that way ? !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) After reading about the new Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which was built with the NFL in mind, looks like its a not if, but when will the NFL have a team in London. Edited November 5, 2019 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Can't Portland, Salt Lake City, Columbus or Omaha get a team? Putting two franchises in LA is one of the dumbest ideas in the long list of dumb ideas. Columbus? No way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: After reading about the new Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which was built with the NFL in mind, looks like its a not if, but when will the NFL have a team in London. The really interesting story of that stadium is that it was built on the site of the old stadium. It was actually built in two halves around the existing one so they played in the old one the entire season while the first half was being built. Then they knocked the old one down, built the second half, and linked the two halves together. Amazing....but costly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What happens if a player’s passport is revoked? Or what if they don’t have one? Put him in the heated part of the luggage compartment, with the pets and Mongo. They’ll never look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 hours ago, reddogblitz said: If there is so much interest in football in London, why don't they have their own league? As I recall, the London Monarchs were one of the first teams in the WAFL to fold. I don't know how to tell you this, but London is one city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m all for it. We had a blast in London when the Bills played there! That's nice BUT Wembley is a like an English LA Coliseum. Built for Olympic events not NFL games. Too many bad seats to sell. How many "locals" go to game(s), or care about the NFL? For those who do travel from the USA be prepared for the London departure tax buried on your plane ticket. Last time I checked it was in the $160 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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