jkeerie Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: And the officials will see to it that TB has time by rarely ( if ever) flagging the Pats* OL for holding , and if that fails they will allow him to ground the ball without penalty. Exactly. The Pats already have the officials as extra players on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Seems like a reasonable cost for a quality receiver. Especially considering that Sanders could net a 3rd round comp pick or a 4th round comp pick at worst. I would have loved to get Josh another quality veteran weapon like Sanders. I didn't like the fit with Sanu as it seemed like he was a better slot receiver and Beasley fills that need for the Bills. But Sanders is a quality outside weapon who might not have filled the void completely for a number 1 WR but certainly would have rounded out the WR core and balanced it out. I think this team has to be on the lookout for whatever else is on the market possibly. There is a significant need to get someone across from Brown that will take pressure off of Brown and open things up a bit more for Beasley. Not to say that the team should go crazy or over the top with a trade but if there is something that could be had at a good price why not pull the trigger on a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I may actually have to eat crow on the cost of acquiring a good WR. The first sign was when Zay Jones netted a 2021 5th rounder.............he was a guy performing at a level so low that had he simply been released it wouldn't have surprised me if only 5-7 teams even put a claim in on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuboirs Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 52 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Sanu for a 2nd and Sanders for 3rd and 4th!? Way too much for guys like that Well 2 of the franchise's with the most trophies think they are worth it....I'll side with their philosophies on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Seems like He’s got availability issues and the speed is it still there? I dunno. I feel like AJG is washed up. AJ Green has yet to play a snap this season. I think people are falling in love with the name and not realizing that he hasn't played yet and might not play for another 2-3 weeks at best. Green was still a quality WR last time he played even if injuries and age took a bit off of him. With Sanders off the market I am not sure where to pivot to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cuboirs said: meant to quote this ....Well these guys dont put us over the top either Phillips was trending upward before his injury and both should be steady contributors for the next several years. If this was the management of old where most of our picks yielded very little in the way of contributions then I would be more inclined to get Sanders but we longer live in those times. Thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, boco357 said: Per Shefty Denver is dealing WR Emmanuel Sanders and a 2020 5th-round pick to San Francisco in exchange for 2020 3rd- and 4th-round picks, per league sources. First Mohamed Sanu, now Sanders.... Sanders a legit #1 WR in his day. 3rd and 4th round picks a lot for a 32 year old wideout who hasn't played a full season since 2016. This is San Fran smacking the gauntlet down, to me, saying "we aren't just gonna run with the Big Dogs here, we gonna run past 'em" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Hebert19 said: Il still guessing a 3rd. Hes gone at the end of year anyway so a 3rd is a win for Bengals and there are 2 less bidders now Bengals will probably get a third round comp pick for him if he signs elsewhere...so I would be a bit surprised if they give him up for one of the Bills late third round picks... But maybe a third gets it done.. still not sure Beane goes for it sight unseen this year before the deadline.. If he was back on the field its a different story but that seems unlikely.. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/10/20/aj-green-unlikely-to-return-before-trade-deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: AJ Green has yet to play a snap this season. I think people are falling in love with the name and not realizing that he hasn't played yet and might not play for another 2-3 weeks at best. Green was still a quality WR last time he played even if injuries and age took a bit off of him. With Sanders off the market I am not sure where to pivot to. Sanu, was another reasonable target... but a second? Woah... Devante Parker in Miami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Sanu, was another reasonable target... but a second? Woah... Devante Parker in Miami? Sanu is more of a slot guy in my opinion, so I didn't see the fit and the cost was a bit outrageous as you said. I am not sure Miami would deal Parker within the division but I would trade a 5th or 4th for Parker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Sleepy Beane. Hope he’s after AJ green Or Tyler Boyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 A.J. Green could be our James Lofton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 beane is asleep....(sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Sanu is more of a slot guy in my opinion, so I didn't see the fit and the cost was a bit outrageous as you said. I am not sure Miami would deal Parker within the division but I would trade a 5th or 4th for Parker. In days gone by absolutely not but we are in different times where most GM's want to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Giants signed Deonne Buchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, DasNootz said: Market for green is getting smaller but more desperate - Bills, Indy and who? AJ is rumored to be out until October 29th, I don't think trading for an injured WR that due to be an UFA a wise investment, if anything we should be looking for O-line or TE help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Has anybody given Alshon Jeffrey a thought? He's rumored to be unhappy with Wentz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I may actually have to eat crow on the cost of acquiring a good WR. The first sign was when Zay Jones netted a 2021 5th rounder.............he was a guy performing at a level so low that had he simply been released it wouldn't have surprised me if only 5-7 teams even put a claim in on him. Seems like a waste of a crow when you can trade it for a conditional 7th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, the skycap said: Has anybody given Alshon Jeffrey a thought? He's rumored to be unhappy with Wentz I’d be all over that one. Not sure the eagles can part with him though. Desean is hurt, Agholor isn’t very good for them. Dealin Alshon basically means they have no receivers left for next year for sure. Philly is still in the hunt, selling off Jeffrey now tells the fans the season is over don’t bother coming to the rest of the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: AJ is rumored to be out until October 29th, I don't think trading for an injured WR that due to be an UFA a wise investment, if anything we should be looking for O-line or TE help. Not sure what Tight ends are out on the market? OJ Howard would at least cost a 2nd if the Bucs are even looking to take a call on him. That is a bit too rich for my blood. Kyle Rudolph wouldn't cost much draft capital wise but I am not sure his cap number and production are a difference maker. I am also not sure what other Tight ends could be out on the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, the skycap said: Has anybody given Alshon Jeffrey a thought? He's rumored to be unhappy with Wentz He doesn't seem like a "Process" guy - and a possible clubhouse cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Come on Buffalo Aj Green 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Sleepy Beane. Hope he’s after AJ green Not against it, just hope it's not for a 1st rounder like many suspect. Probably why he's still a Bungle and Sanders and Sanu are off the board. Don't need him standing on the sidelines in a Bills uni instead of a Bengals uni. Personally I'd consider Tate from the Giants. He's healthy, underrated and won't cost a 1st. Edited October 22, 2019 by billsbackto81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 The one thing I regret about last years draft is the lack of emphasis on a receiver. There were a lot of good ones in that draft. How good would Terry McLaurin or Mecole Hardman have looked opposite Brown? Then we could have focused on getting an edge guy now which I feel is a position that is much easier to implement into your system mid season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Floydboy12 said: The one thing I regret about last years draft is the lack of emphasis on a receiver. There were a lot of good ones in that draft. How good would Terry McLaurin or Mecole Hardman have looked opposite Brown? Then we could have focused on getting an edge guy now which I feel is a position that is much easier to implement into your system mid season. The upcoming draft is supposed to be EXTREMELY strong and deep with Wide Receivers. Just something to consider... The 2017 draft was loaded with defensive backs (both corners and safeties). The Bills took Tre White. The 2018 draft was considered a strong year for quarterbacks and linebackers. The Bills took Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds. The 2019 draft was top-heavy with defensive linemen. The Bills took Ed Oliver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 WR is not a pressing need for this team 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Whether they make a trade before the deadline or not, it tells us plenty about where the HC and GM think this team is. Edited October 22, 2019 by BillsVet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Not sure what Tight ends are out on the market? OJ Howard would at least cost a 2nd if the Bucs are even looking to take a call on him. That is a bit too rich for my blood. Kyle Rudolph wouldn't cost much draft capital wise but I am not sure his cap number and production are a difference maker. I am also not sure what other Tight ends could be out on the market? Zero chance they’re looking for tight ends. That’s one of the deepest positions on the whole team. I get none of them are Kelce, Ertz or even Austin Hooper but there’s plenty of talent to make an impact on this team. Got to keep getting Knox and Kroft involved in the pass game to see what we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, GG said: WR is not a pressing need for this team Where would you rank this grouping of wr’s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Green will not be worth what he will cost. (largely because he can't stay healthy) This is why it was stupid to get rid of Sammy Watkins. He was always healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Where would you rank this grouping of wr’s ? That is immaterial to the offense the Bills run. On any given play, Daboll had the WRs open. He doesn't have a vet QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: I may actually have to eat crow on the cost of acquiring a good WR. The first sign was when Zay Jones netted a 2021 5th rounder.............he was a guy performing at a level so low that had he simply been released it wouldn't have surprised me if only 5-7 teams even put a claim in on him. It changes season to season. BMarsh for a fifth was not too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Beane is not going to make a panic move. IF the right move is there, he will consider it and maybe take it. They have been very clear about their intention to build for the long haul. A top WR would be great of course, but I would not be surprised or upset if they don't make a move at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, One Buffalo said: Beane is not going to make a panic move. IF the right move is there, he will consider it and maybe take it. They have been very clear about their intention to build for the long haul. A top WR would be great of course, but I would not be surprised or upset if they don't make a move at all. What’s the definition of the right move? Whatever Beane decides to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, GG said: That is immaterial to the offense the Bills run. On any given play, Daboll had the WRs open. He doesn't have a vet QB Do you see Allen progressing to the point where he'll be the guy to find those receivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, GG said: WR is not a pressing need for this team better utilization of existing talent and less gimmicks by Daboll IS......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, FireChans said: What’s the definition of the right move? Whatever Beane decides to do? A move that fits the team and the long term goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: A move that fits the team and the long term goals. Which one is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: It changes season to season. BMarsh for a fifth was not too long ago. Yeah but this seems way off normal value........a second round pick for Sanu is batshit crazy, IMO. I'm generally in on underrated, versatile players but I just think there is a lot more style than substance there with Sanu. He was in an ideal situation in Atlanta getting matchups against nickel and dime coverage for years. He's like a 600 yard receiver on most teams. He's an upgrade for New England but that's a guy you should be able to get for a 4th or 5th. We can only hope that the Falcons just wouldn't trade him to NE for anything less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Apparently Green won’t play before the deadline... What should Beane roll the dice on him for? A second? For a chance to get 10 games out of a guy who’s not currently playing? They draft pretty darn well, I don’t want to give up picks without good value just to TRY to fill an immediate need. He’s an injured 31 year old WR at the end of his contract who was also hurt last year. Am I missing something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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