Stank_Nasty Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Buffalo gave up nearly 400 yards and were losing at halftime to the worst team in nearly every single statistic in the league. This offense needs to come together quickly. Daboll needs to figure out how to get the ball out of Josh’s hands quickly. Also, Josh needs to hit a deep ball eventually. Bills converted three 3rd down plays. Buffalos gonna lose a lot of games we have left if they play like that. Again this was the worst team in the NFL. It’s a week to week league, man. Chill. Seriously. Wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, BillsVet said: When does McD step in and demand simplicity from his OC for a QB who clearly is struggling? At which point does McD recognize that he and the GM's attempts to rebuild an offense in one (!) off-season is at best providing middling results? McD's first comments this past off-season at the combine were presumably an answer to the most effective criticism of his tenure: the offense. McCoach proceeded to say they needed to score 21 points per, which through 6 games they've done three times against a weak schedule. The HC has no more clue on offense than did Chan Gailey on defense. They're coordinators masquerading as HC's and do not take a total view of team building, hence the other side of the ball not progressing much from 2 seasons ago. 1) How exactly is Josh Allen struggling? He has things he needs to work on, but he’s not “struggling”. 2) McDermott is being talked about by media folks as one of the top young coaches in the game. What are they missing? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 If you guys are looking for pretty wins this isn’t the team or coach for you. We grind out wins and make plays when we need to. Could we be better, absolutely. Will we get better, the arrow seems to be pointing up. I’ll take the win and hope Allen hits a deep pass. Go Bills 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: 1) How exactly is Josh Allen struggling? He has things he needs to work on, but he’s not “struggling”. 2) McDermott is being talked about by media folks as one of the top young coaches in the game. What are they missing? Re: 2 - Who is saying this? Otherwise, you're employing the classic straw-man argument. Re: 1 - With NFL QB's set up to succeed through rules geared toward protecting QBs and WRs, how does throwing for 202 yards against a defense that, by seasons end, will rank dead last in a number of statistical categories represent "things he needs to work on?" Miami entered today's game allowing 270 yards passing per game, have dealt their best S, and were missing their top CB today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsVet said: Re: 2 - Who is saying this? Otherwise, you're employing the classic straw-man argument. Re: 1 - With NFL QB's set up to succeed through rules geared toward protecting QBs and WRs, how does throwing for 202 yards against a defense that, by seasons end, will rank dead last in a number of statistical categories represent "things he needs to work on?" Miami entered today's game allowing 270 yards passing per game, have dealt their best S, and were missing their top CB today. You literally said that in your first sentence. “When does McD step in and demand simplicity for a QB who clearly is struggling”.... Were you talking about Matt Barkley? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Real McCoy said: Allen is 9-1 when not turning the ball over more than 1 time. That is all that matters. Pretty much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Today was further proof to me that this team shouldnt be talked about as the class of the conference. The quarterback isnt ready and they need help at defensive end in the worst way. I hope I am wrong but I cant see them hanging with the Eagles, Patriots, Ravens or Cowboys. If they have any slip up beyond that they will be looking at going from 5-1, to 10-6 or 9-7. The Jets have an easy schedule down the back stretch. Josh needs to play lights out from here out because the defense isnt going to save him late in the year. But they did hang with the patriots in the first game. 16-10 with a TD coming from a blocked punt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I was at the game today. what a gorgeous day for football. my face got burned to a crisp. I thought the D played poorly today. thank god for Tre - he bailed us out twice. it was the worst performance of the year imo. the Fins were gashing us up the middle with runs by a no name RB. Fitzy was ripping short passes in there consistently moving the chains. I thought Josh played ok. Missing that deep ball to Roberts. Man that’s frustrating. Always 5-8 yards too far. He missed another one too, IIRC. Bills fans booing at the half. I didn’t participate and thought it was a bit rash. Granted this is the worst team in the league, that’s basically trying to lose, and we’re down by 5. whatevs - we 5&1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 We are 5-1 right... from the astute posters on this board I have come to the conclusion that the following applies our head coach sucks as our offense hasn’t clicked in 6 game like our d has come together in three years. How many games Does he need to win this year not to be canned? our defense sucks As we were losing to the worst team in football after one half. Miami was clearly laying down in this one. our qb sucks despite the improvement in most aspects we wanted him to improve on. Four tds one int in last two games with ratings of 98 and 111. 3 road wins as it’s easy to win on the road.. But we aren’t throwing for three hundred yards games Or connecting with foster who caught most of those deep balls last year. Our schedule is easy- the nfl screwed us big time In that regard. Haven’t played anyone or kept it close with the pats. Doom and gloom for next week. We sucked today, the players know they sucked. Coach will have them ready next week. For this week I’m going to enjoy 5-1!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Sorry if this was already posted (didn’t feel like looking through 17 pages) What a play by Jordan Phillips! Wow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I hate reading these boards when the Bills lose. I think I hate it even more sometimes when they win. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Sorry if this was already posted (didn’t feel like looking through 17 pages) What a play by Jordan Phillips! Wow! I hope McDermott grills him for ignoring the fumble he caused. If it weren't for Tre, this might be a thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLBighits Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Re: 2 - Who is saying this? Otherwise, you're employing the classic straw-man argument. Re: 1 - With NFL QB's set up to succeed through rules geared toward protecting QBs and WRs, how does throwing for 202 yards against a defense that, by seasons end, will rank dead last in a number of statistical categories represent "things he needs to work on?" Miami entered today's game allowing 270 yards passing per game, have dealt their best S, and were missing their top CB today. I'm still waiting for are #1 wideout but I agree he needs to work on his deep touch pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, wiskibreth said: I hate reading these boards when the Bills lose. I think I hate it even more sometimes when they win. Amen brother Bills fan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: This is my concern with McD. That last offensive possession gives you a good idea of how he thinks. Three straight runs and a punt instead of giving the offense a chance to drive down the field and easily end the game. I have absolutely no complaints about that last drive. 10 pt lead. To’s burned. There are things to pick out offensively in this game. That drive isn’t one of them. This is just so..... you. Edited October 21, 2019 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: This is my concern with McD. That last offensive possession gives you a good idea of how he thinks. Three straight runs and a punt instead of giving the offense a chance to drive down the field and easily end the game. Up one score, in that scenario, yes... throw to try and end it. Up two scores, knowing they need a score and onside kick, with onside kicks being around 0%, you run there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: That last offensive possession gives you a good idea of how he thinks. Three straight runs and a punt instead of giving the offense a chance to drive down the field and easily end the game. that was absolutely the right call there. Make the Dolphins burn both timeouts, and then put them in the position to have to score twice in... what was it, a little under 4 minutes? Incomplete passes would have just been silly there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Sorry if this was already posted (didn’t feel like looking through 17 pages) What a play by Jordan Phillips! Wow! Pay Jordan and Tre now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Sorry if this was already posted (didn’t feel like looking through 17 pages) What a play by Jordan Phillips! Wow! It’s like the Clowney play in college. You can be a Super Hero if nobody blocks you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Otreply Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Re: 2 - Who is saying this? Otherwise, you're employing the classic straw-man argument. Re: 1 - With NFL QB's set up to succeed through rules geared toward protecting QBs and WRs, how does throwing for 202 yards against a defense that, by seasons end, will rank dead last in a number of statistical categories represent "things he needs to work on?" Miami entered today's game allowing 270 yards passing per game, have dealt their best S, and were missing their top CB today. Your taken this all to seriously, have an herbal tea and get your zen on bro, two years agos super bowl winner is 3-3 and getting their azsez handed to them by the boys right now, chill, it’s all fleeting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Please. Trust your offense to move the ball. Your up 10 with 4 minutes left and the Dolphins burned their TOs when it was 3rd down. Right. So you burn their to’s and punt it up 10 with about 3:45 to go. 100% ok with that. but some people need something to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Re: 2 - Who is saying this? Otherwise, you're employing the classic straw-man argument. Re: 1 - With NFL QB's set up to succeed through rules geared toward protecting QBs and WRs, how does throwing for 202 yards against a defense that, by seasons end, will rank dead last in a number of statistical categories represent "things he needs to work on?" Miami entered today's game allowing 270 yards passing per game, have dealt their best S, and were missing their top CB today. The post the guy you’re responding to used those exact words - referred to Josh Allen as a QB who is struggling. It does help to read the post a guy is responding to before concluding it’s a straw-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Right. So you burn their to’s and punt it up 10 with about 3:45 to go. 100% ok with that. but some people need something to complain about. #StylePoints 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The post the guy you’re responding to used those exact words - referred to Josh Allen as a QB who is struggling. It does help to read the post a guy is responding to before concluding it’s a straw-man BADOL noted Allen struggled, but SCBills assessed the QB's play as merely "things he needs to work on." This is a minimization of the situation IMHO. A totally separate point is that I asked for something to back up the same poster's thought that McD is, to paraphrase, one of the best up and coming NFL HC's. By this record, McD doesn't rank exceptionally high and 4 near his year group outpace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, BillsVet said: BADOL noted Allen struggled, but SCBills assessed the QB's play as merely "things he needs to work on." This is a minimization of the situation IMHO. A totally separate point is that I asked for something to back up the same poster's thought that McD is, to paraphrase, one of the best up and coming NFL HC's. By this record, McD doesn't rank exceptionally high and 4 near his year group outpace him. Struggling and things he needs to work on mean about the same thing to me. Brady struggled against McD's D despite being arguably the best QB that ever played the game. I'm confident Tom Brady and Josh Daniels will study game film before the next encounter and work on developing a better stradegy to beat Buffalo. Considering not many teams can slow Tom Brady and the New England Patriots down. How does that fit into McD's ranking? Edited October 21, 2019 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said: Right. So you burn their to’s and punt it up 10 with about 3:45 to go. 100% ok with that. but some people need something to complain about. They shoudve went play action on 3rd down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Figster said: Fitzy showed us why when teams struggle they turn things over to the bearded one. Not today Fitzmagic, not today. Bills need another weapon on O, get er done Beane man... I think when Foster gets healthy finally, it'll make a difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) So I was looking at music on YouTube and came across something weird. How did Fitz end up on the cover? Edited October 21, 2019 by Warcodered Huh 4000th post 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, jlgarsh said: I think when Foster gets healthy finally, it'll make a difference Don't get me wrong, big bama fan and I like Foster. A player like A J Green even at a later stage in his career is in a step above Robert Foster in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Figster said: Don't get me wrong, big bama fan and I like Foster. A player like a healthy A J Green even at a later stage in his career is in a step above Robert Foster in my humble opinion. FIFY. My problem with acquiring AJ Green is that he hasn't played a snap this season recovering from injury, and it's not clear when he will or whether he'll be himself when he does. If he's healthy, he's way more than a step above Foster. 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: BADOL noted Allen struggled, but SCBills assessed the QB's play as merely "things he needs to work on." This is a minimization of the situation IMHO. A totally separate point is that I asked for something to back up the same poster's thought that McD is, to paraphrase, one of the best up and coming NFL HC's. By this record, McD doesn't rank exceptionally high and 4 near his year group outpace him. Actually, I was mistaken - you were one of those people who used those words "QB who is struggling", then turned around and suggested no one said it and it was a straw man. This win has had a very strange effect upon the posting on this board tonight. It's almost like what the board is like after a loss. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: FIFY. My problem with acquiring AJ Green is that he hasn't played a snap this season recovering from injury, and it's not clear when he will or whether he'll be himself when he does. If he's healthy, he's way more than a step above Foster. You make a very good point. Beane would be rolling the dice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Wow I completely forgot about Robert Foster this week until I saw this thread. Like I forgot he was even on the team, it's been so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I agree, the bills have done it a few times this year already which is becoming a habit. Thought it cost them in the games they have done it. I wonder if it is a game plan/coach specific strategy or if McDermott is going with his gut ach time? i hope not . Defense wins championships but sitting on the ball does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: i hope not . Defense wins championships but sitting on the ball does not. Managing the clock properly is a big part of winning football games. Incomplete passes accomplishes nothing. If Gore rushes for a 1st down ( my moneys on Gore) we're not even talking about it. With all due respect B B Edited October 21, 2019 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Figster said: Managing the clock properly is a big part of winning football games. Incomplete passes accomplishes nothing. If Gore rushes for a 1st down ( my moneys on Gore) we're not even talking about it. You always get as many points as you can, there was over 2 minutes in the half and we were down, that is not the time to burn clock. Only time you do that is at the end of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: You always get as many points as you can, there was over 2 minutes in the half and we were down, that is not the time to burn clock. Only time you do that is at the end of the game. My bad If you were referring to the 1st half 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: FIFY. My problem with acquiring AJ Green is that he hasn't played a snap this season recovering from injury, and it's not clear when he will or whether he'll be himself when he does. If he's healthy, he's way more than a step above Foster. Actually, I was mistaken - you were one of those people who used those words "QB who is struggling", then turned around and suggested no one said it and it was a straw man. This win has had a very strange effect upon the posting on this board tonight. It's almost like what the board is like after a loss. Its real easy to pull a post/reply out of context sometimes which adds to the confusion, lol Good game fellas, Enjoy the win. Edited October 21, 2019 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, y2zipper said: The onside kick is a 0 percent play in 2019 so I lean that the drive with the Fitz rushing TD was garbage time and the Bills won when they got up by ten. I think the offense made progress in that we saw 3 FG possessions where before we would see a turnover or a mistake on one of those drives before but also had the 90 yard drove after the interception and scored off the fumble. The offensive game plan is taking what the defense gives and taking some deep shots. The only drive I didn't like the playcalls was the one with 3 straight runs at the 2 minute warning. The defense laid an egg early but made some timely turnovers to seal the game. The Bears say ‘Hi!’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Figster said: I've always thought Fitzpatrick would make a great coach one day. Yep. He would tell quarterbacks "You'll think you can make this pass and you'll throw it but you can't. I know. I did it 600 times." 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Wallace was awful. Fitz completely disrespected him all day. They put him in man coverage which he is not nearly as good at. Fitz definitely took advantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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