Irv Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 There always seems to be one that we ('ol Irv included) Bills fans pile on the hate. Beast Mode, Byrd, Gillmore, Dareus, Benjamin, and lately Zay. All got run. I wonder if other teams fans have a similar situation every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Who is in the on deck circle for the hate? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Who is in the on deck circle for the hate? Lets guess. Tent Murphy, DiMarco (he is on my list after that punt fiasco vs New England), Tyler Kroft. Lee Smith would have been on that list but his TD and his team first philosophy have saved him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Who is in the on deck circle for the hate? Yeldon, Dawkins, Ford are my top 3 guesses 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) really this teams is very very likeable........DiMarco for the punt block yes...Dawkins penalties...Yeldon few opportunites usually screws one up....Bojorquez although atleast he hammered it Sunday repeatedly into the endzone but his issue has been 27 yarders at the wrong time. Kroft is he misses 2 more games will be the selection Edited October 8, 2019 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Who is in the on deck circle for the hate? TJ Yeldon is currently in the on-deck circle. He's been fairly productive, particularly catching passes out of the backfield, but he had a fumble a few games back, and I read a post that said he sucks, so ***** him. He's the reason our offense struggles. 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Yeldon, Dawkins, Ford are my top 3 guesses It does feel like Ford is trending this way. It feels like he's the one guy on this team who hasn't really earned the reps he's been given. I didn't see any drop off in play when Bates came in to take his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I'm certain every team has one of these players. Some DB constantly getting burned... a WR with drops... a backup lineman who was promoted after a FA loss who isn't pulling his weight... players who fumble... penalty prone players etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, Forward Progress said: It does feel like Ford is trending this way. It feels like he's the one guy on this team who hasn't really earned the reps he's been given. I didn't see any drop off in play when Bates came in to take his place. An underperforming 2nd rounder we traded up for replacing an underperforming 2nd rounder we traded up for has nice symmetry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Yeldon, Dawkins, Ford are my top 3 guesses Good choices, i think Ford gets a rookie break, Yeldon somewhat redeemed himself lately, Dawkins is a good choice, didn't think of him. Edited October 8, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Forward Progress said: It does feel like Ford is trending this way. It feels like he's the one guy on this team who hasn't really earned the reps he's been given. I didn't see any drop off in play when Bates came in to take his place. I do believe its technique with him, but he has gotta figure out speed rushes - the one sack is so easily avoided if he can get a punch/push to knock him up field. Creates a pocket to step up to, or a running lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Who is in the on deck circle for the hate? Yeldon and maybe Shnowman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Based on draft position vs performance I'd say Ford and I don't think it's fair. He should be playing G, but we have a solid RG and the guy who should be starting at RT isn't healthy enough to be a viable long term option. I'd love to see Feliciano slide to LG, Ford at RG and Bates/Nsekhe at RT, but they don't seem interested in trying that, most likely because they convinced themselves Ford can play RT despite all evidence to the contrary in what he's shown us on the field thus far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 At least this team does not keep players around for long once they have earned their bullseye. At this point I do not see anyone on the team that deserves to be "hated on". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) I think it will be Tremaine Edmunds. Maybe Corey Bojorquez. Or Cody Ford. Edited October 8, 2019 by CuddyDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Can we go back to Dareus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 It's obviously Dimarco. He's done nothing but do everything the coaches ask him to but fans are still all over him for some reason, because apparently they don't know what a full back is. And blaming him for the blocked punt is laughable. Blocking two guys is practically impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Irv said: There always seems to be one that we ('ol Irv included) Bills fans pile on the hate. Beast Mode, Byrd, Gillmore, Dareus, Benjamin, and lately Zay. All got run. I wonder if other teams fans have a similar situation every year. Benjamin was just simply a walking turd, Least-Mode was a total fraud with exception of his 5-6 highlight runs, but Zay, no hate from me. I wanted him to succeed, but he simply wasn't performing, period. I just wish him luck and hope he figures out how to play at this level in Oakland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Ford, Murphy, and Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rob's House said: TJ Yeldon is currently in the on-deck circle. He's been fairly productive, particularly catching passes out of the backfield, but he had a fumble a few games back, and I read a post that said he sucks, so ***** him. He's the reason our offense struggles. He is a decent receiving back. He is a god awful runner. He has poor vision and normally runs into the backs of his linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: He is a decent receiving back. He is a god awful runner. He has poor vision and normally runs into the backs of his linemen. Maybe his linemen should get out of the way. Didn't that ever occur to you, man? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Punters and kickers shouldn’t count. At some point they could have a bad game. If their performance is chronically bad, they will get cut or traded. Josh shouldn’t count, he’s in a separate category. Star is often on the bad list because his name is rarely called even though he is on the field a lot. Same with DiMarco. Offensive line is a popular target. Yeldon has fumbled in the past. He’s one more fumble away from being a target. Hughes and Lee Smith can hurt with ill timed Offside/motion penalties. They are possible targets. I think we we have to wait and see now that Zay is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Who is in the on deck circle for the hate? The punter. Not only can I not spell his name, but he had that one punt blocked because no one thought to block the defense. 6 minutes ago, Gray Beard said: Punters and kickers shouldn’t count. At some point they could have a bad game. ***** off with this well-reasoned logic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 One Bill...many, many TSW posters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Yeldon is clearly top dog now on the TSW hit list. How dare this 3d string RB not look like Todd Gurley running the ball. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, MJS said: It's obviously Dimarco. He's done nothing but do everything the coaches ask him to but fans are still all over him for some reason, because apparently they don't know what a full back is. And blaming him for the blocked punt is laughable. Blocking two guys is practically impossible. He is supposed to be a team leader and special tam ace, yes it was his fault, he needed to call a timeout, he was hoping and praying to block 2 guys which was, and proved to be impossible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Koko78 said: The punter. Not only can I not spell his name, but he had that one punt blocked because no one thought to block the defense. ***** off with this well-reasoned logic. 100% it's the punter. he's our biggest weakness atm. either he magically becomes good, or we have to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He is a decent receiving back. He is a god awful runner. He has poor vision and normally runs into the backs of his linemen. That's a lot of analysis of 10 carries (4.5 per BTW). He had over 100 carries at 4 per last season. That's not god awful. Daboll needs to use him more. Otherwise it's stop Gore and make Josh heave up the bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Bills fans just don't like under-performing players. The targets for hate are usually high draft picks or big-contract free agents, who aren't performing up to expectations. Tremaine Edmunds was catching a lot of criticism last year. But so far this season, he's clearly making an impact (especially against New England). With Zay Jones gone, you can already see the frustration rising around Cody Ford. If he doesn't start playing well before about Week 7-8, people are going to start throwing the term "bust" around pretty frequently. On the veteran side, you see plenty of hate going towards Star Lotulelei, Tyler Kroft, Trent Murphy and TJ Yeldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, colin said: 100% it's the punter. he's our biggest weakness atm. either he magically becomes good, or we have to replace him. Exactly! Either he needs to start kicking the ball so it lands out of bounds at the 1 foot line, or they need to cut ties and drop the dead weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Irv said: There always seems to be one that we ('ol Irv included) Bills fans pile on the hate. Beast Mode, Byrd, Gillmore, Dareus, Benjamin, and lately Zay. All got run. I wonder if other teams fans have a similar situation every year. Beast mode ran someone over and fled the scene...he deserved the hate when he was here, but he wasn't hated as wide spread as someone like KB was. Byrd and Gilmore were hated? Sure, they had some critics, but hated? They were not anywhere close to the category of say KB hate and was mostly about their pending contract situations as free agents and what they were worth. Dareus was hated? I think people were frustrated with him at times, but he wasn't widely hated and a lot of people were not happy when he was traded. KB and Zay got the most "hate", but it was really KB that was "hated" where Zay was mostly people unsatisfied with his play and didnt start turning into more hate until recently when his 2019 season was more of the same disappointment despite being his 3rd year. Some of you need to learn how to separate honest criticisms with hate. KB and Zay earned ever single criticism they got on the field...Beast Mode earned it off the field...Byrd and Gilmore were not really hated here and was more about debating their value with their FA contracts coming up. Gilmore did get a lot more hate because he signed with the Pats, but that was after he left Buffalo. Edited October 8, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I'm not sure who's up next--probably Yeldon--but I can guarantee that there will be someone singled out as whipping boy within one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: I think it will be Tremaine Edmunds No way Lee Smith or Tommy Sweeney all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Yeldon, Dawkins, Ford are my top 3 guesses This. feel bad for Ford, but he’s been so so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: That's a lot of analysis of 10 carries (4.5 per BTW). He had over 100 carries at 4 per last season. That's not god awful. Daboll needs to use him more. Otherwise it's stop Gore and make Josh heave up the bombs. No he is using him right about right as a runner. He should not be anyone's second back. And as soon as Singletary is healthy he won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He is a decent receiving back. He is a god awful runner. He has poor vision and normally runs into the backs of his linemen. No vision care with the collective agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Lets guess. Tent Murphy, DiMarco (he is on my list after that punt fiasco vs New England), Tyler Kroft. Lee Smith would have been on that list but his TD and his team first philosophy have saved him. Ridiculous, Roy. ...I think you actually have to play for the Bills to be on this list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 OP really needs to add a poll to this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) Conor McDermott. I mean, what does he do?! Every time I look, he’s never doing anything! * * * He’s what? Where? Oh, poor guy. I feel bad for him. Edited October 8, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Irv said: There always seems to be one that we ('ol Irv included) Bills fans pile on the hate. Beast Mode, Byrd, Gillmore, Dareus, Benjamin, and lately Zay. All got run. I wonder if other teams fans have a similar situation every year. I would add the players who stick around despite this sentiment. Chris Kelsay might be the best example of a player as a TBD whipping boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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