london_bills Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah, almost all of McKenzies entire production is essentially a run play for a TD qualified as a reception since Allen tossed the ball 3 inches forward. If not for that run counting as a pass on the stat sheet, the 3 WRs have combined 9 rec for 78 yards on the season. Allen needs help...badly. And yes, I know you are one of those posters lol, and its fine you still believe in him, I dont have an issue with that. I don't, and many others have lost faith...but the one thing we can all agree on, Zay and Allen are not demonstrating any sort of chemistry. 'Allen needs help...badly.' Receivers are open. Didn't look like he needed help first drive after the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForMacAdoo Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: At this point I would take John Gianelli and cash. As the greatest fan ever of Danny Neavereth's "That's 2 for McAdoo", this brought back memories. And not good ones. The beginning of the end for my other beloved Buffalo sports team. Nevertheless, I appreciate your knowledge, Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I never heard of Cold Front Report before this posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, artmalibu said: Foster was active for 13 games with less than half of the catches. Yes, foster had a ton of yards on few catches, no argument there. Foster was a deep threat where zay is a possession receiver. How many catches does foster have this year? IMO zay is far from a super star but he is what he is, a #3 NFL WR. So how bad has he done? 2017 #2 WR in yards 2018 #1 WR in yards 2018 #3 WR in yards WOW...hahahaha this is the most ridiculous response I have ever seen...did you really just try and use his "ranking as a WR only" in yards to try and make him look good because his actual stats dont? Again, not actual receiving yard ranks on the team, just his rank among the worst WR groups in the NFL to TRY and manipulate it to look impactful hahahaha. Fun, I want to play this game too... I mean look at all these STUDS!!! 2018: Deonte Thompson #1 WR in receiving yards 2006: JP Losman #1 in passing yards 2018: Derek Anderson #2 in passing yards 2017: Nate Peterman #2 in passing yards Now lets get back to Zay...and his REAL ranks on receiving for this team 2017: 5th in receiving yards despite starting 15 games. Only had 30 yards more than Jordan Matthews who barely played and only even was active for 10 games. 2018: #1 receiving yards only because the other starters were cut week 10 and was out gained by over 200 yards after Foster was brought back from the PS over the final 7 weeks of the season. 2019: 5th in receiving yards behind even Yeldon Again...the criticisms and frustrations are not about one game..its about a WR averaging 2.5 catches and 30 yards a game for 35 CAREER games and a career catch rate of 46%. Edited October 2, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrock123 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) https://buffalowdown.com/2018/10/04/buffalo-bills-the-continued-insignificance-of-zay-jones/ It's sad, but this summary of Mr. Jones is still very much applicable. ? Edited October 2, 2019 by mattrock123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: No way, he is one of the worst receivers in the league. It is not being imagined. One of the worst? Nah. Can be upgraded from? Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, artmalibu said: If he gets traded who will be the new whipping boy? I dont see how its Zays fault that JA threw 2 bad balls his way that were picked(1 would have been a TD if not under thrown), and last week when wide open in the end zone was way over thrown..... When looking at the passing game I more worried about leading the league in interceptions while being in the bottom half in attempts with a QB who is second in the league(all positions)in fumbles. 3 years of garbage by Zay. No time left for excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 There is no way they get s draft pick for him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: It has more clout coming from you Simon. but i have been all over this. the kid has something broken upstairs or is trying to get released. his physical behaviour is just odd . Going back to preseason when he got concussed. he got hit cuz he would not run through the play. and he has alligatored armed enough to avoid perceived hits coming. Not a football player. sorry i have been so harsh for so long. but still wonder what McBeanes see/saw in him Thank you but my clout level is currently hovering around zero. I've been out of touch with the Bills for the last couple years or I hope I'd have been right there with you. I had to watch that replay several times because I just could not beleive what I was seeing. We've all seen guys short-arm balls or bail out on crossing routes in heavy traffic, but I don't think I have ever seen an NFL WR literally run away from a ball on a route to the corner. Something is indeed broken upstairs. This is going to be some pig-ignorant speculation for which I will get deservedly flamed, but I wonder if Zay is on some sort of anti-depressant prescription after the bizarre incident I read about last year. I assumed he was puffing on some of that synthetic garbage but maybe there is more to it. My understanding is that one of the side effects from that family of drugs is to level you so much that you sort of develop a laissez faire attitude toward things. Between running away from footballs and that dainty effort to break up Allen's last pick, he just looks like a guy who's more interested in self-preservation than winning battles. If that's the case, I hope he chooses a stabel life over football for his own sake, but at this point it's time for the Bills to get him off the field one way or another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: 3 years of garbage by Zay. No time left for excuses 3 yrs of garbage qb play too. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, purple haze said: One of the worst? Nah. Can be upgraded from? Yes. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&year_min=2017&year_max=2019&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos%5B%5D=wr&draft_year_min=1936&draft_year_max=2019&draft_slot_min=1&draft_slot_max=500&draft_pick_in_round=pick_overall&conference=any&draft_pos%5B%5D=qb&draft_pos%5B%5D=rb&draft_pos%5B%5D=wr&draft_pos%5B%5D=te&draft_pos%5B%5D=e&draft_pos%5B%5D=t&draft_pos%5B%5D=g&draft_pos%5B%5D=c&draft_pos%5B%5D=ol&draft_pos%5B%5D=dt&draft_pos%5B%5D=de&draft_pos%5B%5D=dl&draft_pos%5B%5D=ilb&draft_pos%5B%5D=olb&draft_pos%5B%5D=lb&draft_pos%5B%5D=cb&draft_pos%5B%5D=s&draft_pos%5B%5D=db&draft_pos%5B%5D=k&draft_pos%5B%5D=p&c1stat=targets&c1comp=gt&c1val=100&c5val=1.0&order_by=rec_yds_per_tgt&order_by_asc=Y#results::none I'd say having the worst avg yds/ target in the NFL since he came in the league by .7 of a yard and the next closest guy (Crabtree) was waived recently is a pretty good indicator that Zay is one of the worst receivers in the NFL Mrs. Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, artmalibu said: No not 1 or 2 games in my eyes. Last year Zay was the leader in receptions, receiving yards and receiving TDs. And this is the guy many cant wait to get rid of? Another classic case of, if the bills drafted in later he would be loved..... He was also second last in catch % with 56 catches on 102 targets. That's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&year_min=2017&year_max=2019&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos%5B%5D=wr&draft_year_min=1936&draft_year_max=2019&draft_slot_min=1&draft_slot_max=500&draft_pick_in_round=pick_overall&conference=any&draft_pos%5B%5D=qb&draft_pos%5B%5D=rb&draft_pos%5B%5D=wr&draft_pos%5B%5D=te&draft_pos%5B%5D=e&draft_pos%5B%5D=t&draft_pos%5B%5D=g&draft_pos%5B%5D=c&draft_pos%5B%5D=ol&draft_pos%5B%5D=dt&draft_pos%5B%5D=de&draft_pos%5B%5D=dl&draft_pos%5B%5D=ilb&draft_pos%5B%5D=olb&draft_pos%5B%5D=lb&draft_pos%5B%5D=cb&draft_pos%5B%5D=s&draft_pos%5B%5D=db&draft_pos%5B%5D=k&draft_pos%5B%5D=p&c1stat=targets&c1comp=gt&c1val=100&c5val=1.0&order_by=rec_yds_per_tgt&order_by_asc=Y#results::none I'd say having the worst avg yds/ target in the NFL since he came in the league by .7 of a yard and the next closest guy (Crabtree) was waived recently is a pretty good indicator that Zay is one of the worst receivers in the NFL Mrs. Jones One of the worst starters? Okay. But There's about 60 or more WRs in the league who don't even do that. So, in the league? No. Ghost chaser. ? 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: He was also second last in catch % with 56 catches on 102 targets. That's terrible. So was quarterback play for long stretches of the season. Nothing to say about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Dopey said: 3 yrs of garbage qb play too. No? We already know we dont agree here...so not trying to beat a dead horse. But I have to believe you see why this excuse is pretty weak right? I mean, isn't Zay catching passes form the same guy that Foster, Brown and Cole are? As a rookie, Zay was 5th on the team in receiving yards despite starting all season...catching passes from the same guy the other guys above him were. Year 2, he led the team in yards, only because no other WR started nearly the amount of games he did...Foster technically was active for 13 games, but he really only played in 7...which he nearly doubled Zays yards over those 7 games, and more than doubled Zays yards in the 6 games with Allen. Allen came back against JAX and looked like a guy who can finally throw. In the 10 games since then, he has the longest 250 yard game streak since Kelly, Foster has 3 100 yard games, Brown has a 100 yard game and leads the team in all receiving categories, and Cole has a bunch of catches...meanwhile Zay has averaged 33 yards per game during the same 10 game stretch where Allen has been better as a passer. Why didn't the "garbage" QB play affect the other WRs as much as its supposedly affected Zay then? Edited October 2, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 He's Josh Reed all over again Hopefully he is moved and soon. 30 yards per game sucks especially since he basically was a full time starter last year It should not be that difficult to find someone more capable than him to take those snaps What is even more alarming is he's a injury away from starting should Brown or Beasley get dinged. Buffalo needs to get serious about getting Allen more help and it starts right here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, purple haze said: One of the worst starters? Okay. But There's about 60 or more WRs in the league who don't even do that. So, in the league? No. Ghost chaser. ? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, purple haze said: One of the worst starters? Okay. But There's about 60 or more WRs in the league who don't even do that. So, in the league? No. Ghost chaser. ? So was quarterback play for long stretches of the season. Nothing to say about that? Yes, I have already said it in another thread... bad QB play or not the other receivers are catching more targets. Is Zay somehow the only one that QBs can't throw to? This season so far Zay is at 38.7 catch percent. Everyone else is above 67% Last season he was at 54.9% second last only to Terrelle Pryor. The season before 36.5%. Even Benjamine was at 61.5%. It doesn't matter how bad the QB play is. Zay is by far the worst receiver on the team in catch%. Even worse than Benjamin and that's pathetic. Lets put this in perspective to drive my point home. Out of a list of 200 receivers Zay is in the bottom 40 in catch percent. That low on the list includes a lot of receivers that have only had a couple balls or no balls thrown their way Edited October 2, 2019 by Scott7975 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Yes, I have already said it in another thread... bad QB play or not the other receivers are catching more targets. Is Zay somehow the only one that QBs can't throw to? This season so far Zay is at 38.7 catch percent. Everyone else is above 67% Last season he was at 54.9% second last only to Terrelle Pryor. The season before 36.5%. Even Benjamine was at 61.5%. It doesn't matter how bad the QB play is. Zay is by far the worst receiver on the team in catch%. Even worse than Benjamin and that's pathetic. Lets put this in perspective to drive my point home. Out of a list of 200 receivers Zay is in the bottom 40 in catch percent. That low on the list includes a lot of receivers that have only had a couple balls or no balls thrown their way There is no world Zay is on par with Benjamin last season. F$&k analytics. Eye test can tell you that. What does the All-22 show from yesterday? Was he open? Did he have opportunities. He had three steps on the DB, pass underthrown. Had a step on the DB, pass overthrown. Josh makes good throws and the narrative is different today. I'm not saying the Bills can't upgrade, and I'm sure they will at some point, which means grabbing a 1a to go with Smoke's 1b and Beasley becomes 3. But the narrative he should be cut is crazy, and more frustration that he isn't playing up to his draft position, than reality based. He's the third WR, and actually, might be 4th in line with Knox starting to show up. Bills are 3-1. Zay is the least of the Bills problems. Y'all should be posting about that offensive line and pass blocking. THAT is why the Bills didn't win that game. But go head and keep worrying about WR3. Edited October 2, 2019 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Thank you! ?. I said they could upgrade. You said he was one of the worst WRs in the league. That's a different statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Simon said: This is going to be some pig-ignorant speculation for which I will get deservedly flamed, but I wonder if Zay is on some sort of anti-depressant prescription after the bizarre incident I read about last year. I assumed he was puffing on some of that synthetic garbage but maybe there is more to it. My understanding is that one of the side effects from that family of drugs is to level you so much that you sort of develop a laissez faire attitude toward things. Between running away from footballs and that dainty effort to break up Allen's last pick, he just looks like a guy who's more interested in self-preservation than winning battles. If that's the case, I hope he chooses a stabel life over football for his own sake, but at this point it's time for the Bills to get him off the field one way or another. There was a rush to declare that Jones' behavior in that video was attributable to an illegal substance. Yet, police dropping charges just 2 days later made me think it was anything but drug related or, as it was claimed, there was insufficient evidence. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/prosecutors-drop-charges-against-bills-receiver-zay-jones-following-bloody-arrest/ During this last off-season it was again highlighted how hard he was working out. Hard to understand if a guy is dedicated like that but doesn't want anything to do with games. Something's definitely amiss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, purple haze said: There is no world Zay is on par with Benjamin last season. F$&k analytics. Eye test can tell you that. What does the All-22 show from yesterday? Was he open? Did he have opportunities. He had three steps on the DB, pass underthrown. Had a step on the DB, pass overthrown. Josh makes good throws and the narrative is different today. I'm not saying the Bills can't upgrade, and I'm sure they will at some point, which means grabbing a 1a to go with Smoke's 1b and Beasley becomes 3. But the narrative he should be cut is crazy, and more frustration that he isn't playing up to his draft position, than reality based. He's the third WR, and actually, might be 4th in line with Knox starting to show up. Bills are 3-1. Zay is the least of the Bills problems. Y'all should be posting about that offensive line and pass blocking. THAT is why the Bills didn't win that game. But go head and keep worrying about WR3. If he held on to the ball on the pass from Barkley with 10:47 remaining, we win the game. If he breaks up the two interceptions, we win the game. And, wasn't there a halfback pass from John Brown to Zay that he dropped? I used to really want to see him succeed, but it's time to move on. Throw more to Knox, bring up the Duke and trade/sign a sure-handed receiver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, purple haze said: One of the worst? Nah. Can be upgraded from? Yes. name 5 worse please. 5 WRs you would not trade Zay for 38.9 catch %, wins zero 50-50 balls, alligator arms, avoids contact, zero football instincts, little if any seperation, makes zero big plays, and seems to choke, horrible hands.....I could go on....show me 5 worse WR please Edited October 2, 2019 by Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 8 hours ago, poblano said: Again, can you tell me the last time in this regime those kind of rumors are true Um... Lesean Mccoy? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Yes, I have already said it in another thread... bad QB play or not the other receivers are catching more targets. Is Zay somehow the only one that QBs can't throw to? This season so far Zay is at 38.7 catch percent. Everyone else is above 67% Last season he was at 54.9% second last only to Terrelle Pryor. The season before 36.5%. Even Benjamine was at 61.5%. It doesn't matter how bad the QB play is. Zay is by far the worst receiver on the team in catch%. Even worse than Benjamin and that's pathetic. Lets put this in perspective to drive my point home. Out of a list of 200 receivers Zay is in the bottom 40 in catch percent. That low on the list includes a lot of receivers that have only had a couple balls or no balls thrown their way Catch percentage goes to both QB and receiver. Opinions on Zay be much more positive if Allen had hit him on either of the two times he was open deep this week. Zay has had some bad plays, and Josh has had some bad plays involving Zay. They do seem not to be working in sync, for whatever reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Good. The sooner he’s gone the sooner this side show can stop. Tiring hearing the same regurgitated rubbish that a lousey WR3/4 is root cause of Bills offensive woes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Good. The sooner he’s gone the sooner this side show can stop. Tiring hearing the same regurgitated rubbish that a lousey WR3/4 is root cause of Bills offensive woes. Please god this. I’m sure the manufactured excuse industry for Allen with churn on after Jones is gone, but at least we won’t have to flog this particular horse corpse anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: This came out last week and a mod sent it to me via direct message as well as a handful of other posters. Didn't see them get posted here, but found this interesting. One thing that stood out to me is that this seems to coincide around the time that Zay's parents got all crazy on twitter. Maybe Zay found out through his agent that a deal was close and thats why his parents were upset? Honestly I don't know how accurate this story is as I don't follow the Cold Front to know how credible they are. But it is interesting the timeline fits for when his parents got weird on social media. i hope so and he should be well past the meddling parents age, apparently they need to grow up. they should have drafted Kupp like i wanted but no way we get him now. not sure what we could get for him but anything would be better than nothing. 10 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: The raiders I heard AB is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 If true, then THANK YOU BABY JESUS! GIT 'R' DUN, McBeane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Catch percentage goes to both QB and receiver. Opinions on Zay be much more positive if Allen had hit him on either of the two times he was open deep this week. Zay has had some bad plays, and Josh has had some bad plays involving Zay. They do seem not to be working in sync, for whatever reason. Again this is 3 years in a row where Zay catch percent is well lower than the other receivers on the team. Sure part of it is QB but I’m judging against Zays teammates with the same QB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 My main thing is he has ZERO run after the catch ability. So when he does catch it, 36%, he is down immediately. RAC is huge to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: My main thing is he has ZERO run after the catch ability. So when he does catch it, 36%, he is down immediately. RAC is huge to me. Catches with body and not hands a fair amount. No RAC as he often goes down to get ball into body and protect himself. Plus drops. I have rooted for him for 3 years but it doesn't seem to be working as expected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 another Zay thread!!!! Yippie!! What is Cold Front?? (asking for a friend) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 What about that ever elusive intangible... being a Winner, or having that "It" factor. I think it's safe to say that he has neither. Spread this icing over his career stats and performance and you have to wonder why he's still on the team. 3 years is plenty long enough to know what kind of player you have and he's certainly had enough opportunities in 3 years to change some minds. Let's bring up the King of New York, I hear he's A # 1. He deserves his chance at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Can’t Jones and Sobotka switch jerseys? Neither could be any worse for their teams and both look like they could care less. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Catch percentage goes to both QB and receiver. Opinions on Zay be much more positive if Allen had hit him on either of the two times he was open deep this week. Zay has had some bad plays, and Josh has had some bad plays involving Zay. They do seem not to be working in sync, for whatever reason. Interesting how our other receivers have been able to catch it with our other QBs throwing it to them. He does nothing to help out his QBs which is essentially what you want at receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 15 hours ago, RiotAct said: whaddya think we could get for him? Not much. Maybe a 6th or 7th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Ive never understood the allegiance to some players. Zay Jones has had way more than enough opportunities to produce for this team. He’s failed at every turn. Maybe a change of scenery would do him some good. It happens! Go get one of the practice squad receivers and move them up. It’s impossible for them to be any worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: We already know we dont agree here...so not trying to beat a dead horse. But I have to believe you see why this excuse is pretty weak right? I mean, isn't Zay catching passes form the same guy that Foster, Brown and Cole are? As a rookie, Zay was 5th on the team in receiving yards despite starting all season...catching passes from the same guy the other guys above him were. Year 2, he led the team in yards, only because no other WR started nearly the amount of games he did...Foster technically was active for 13 games, but he really only played in 7...which he nearly doubled Zays yards over those 7 games, and more than doubled Zays yards in the 6 games with Allen. Allen came back against JAX and looked like a guy who can finally throw. In the 10 games since then, he has the longest 250 yard game streak since Kelly, Foster has 3 100 yard games, Brown has a 100 yard game and leads the team in all receiving categories, and Cole has a bunch of catches...meanwhile Zay has averaged 33 yards per game during the same 10 game stretch where Allen has been better as a passer. Why didn't the "garbage" QB play affect the other WRs as much as its supposedly affected Zay then? Is Teddy kgb your alter ego!? Just about everyone wanted Tyrod gone, last year was a dumpsterfire at qb, no? And Josh has a 2/1 int to td ratio so far this year. That sucks and that's on Josh. Forgetting about Zay for a second, is what I just wrote not true? Again, if you can forget about Zay for even a second, is my statement not true? Edited October 2, 2019 by Dopey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 He's terrible. That's all. A lot of people explained this in that massive Zay Jones thread over the summer. He's been on the field a lot and has been targeted a lot but has not produced....and the numbers say that a lot of his production came when the outcome of games were already determined. (I posted all this in that summer thread so not going to put it here again). In terms of what you could get for him, probably someone else's draft bust. Like Dallas just cut Taco Charlton, that's the kind of return you could expect. Honestly I still think trading Zay to the Niners for Solomon Thomas makes the most sense. Zay is probably a good fit in the Shanahan system (though he will still need to learn how to catch) and Thomas has been a massive disappointment and buried on the depth chart, but would be a great replacement for Harrison Phillips, who could also play some end if needed. Both need a change of scenery. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) the kiss of death??? Bills backing Zay Jones despite early struggles https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/01/buffalo-bills-backing-zay-jones-early-struggles/ But despite the early-season struggles, the Bills’ coaching staff is sticking behind Jones. Buffalo head coach Sean McDermott said adjusting to life in a new receiver room with Brown and Cole Beasley could be attributing to Jones’ struggles. “Offensively, we’ve got eight, nine new players, just in the starting lineup, really, for the most part, give or take. So, as it relates to Zay, and in that, look, there’s getting familiar with, there’s getting comfortable with the offense, the system. He’s had some good plays this year, he’s made some critical catches for us and a couple of games before,” McDermott said. “I expect he’ll bounce back.” Buffalo offensive coordinator Brian Daboll also expressed Jones might’ve had a chance at doing things better, too. But like McDermott, it doesn’t sound like Jones is going anywhere, any time soon. “Zay’s worked really hard. There are a couple of plays here that I think I’d like to have back, everybody would like to have back. Zay’s a hard worker. He’s going to keep giving everything he’s got,” Daboll said. Edited October 2, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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