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Mojo44 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Artem Lipatov said: I have bad remenescences. We had season start with Trent Edwards 4-0 or 5-0 than the similar helmet to helmet KO. Then season was lost. And Edwards turned to Checkdown. Trent had the “check down mentality“ before that hit. He just lost his nerve after that. I don’t think we need to worry about that as far as Josh is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npeartisgod Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 NFL head of officiating Al Riveron saidJones’ hit on Allen did not “rise to the level” of the league standard for disqualification. from Buffalo News... jaysus then what DOES require an ejection... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Artem Lipatov said: I have bad remenescences. We had season start with Trent Edwards 4-0 or 5-0 than the similar helmet to helmet KO. Then season was lost. And Edwards turned to Checkdown. Stop. Trent was never that good, and the hit didn't ruin him. There's no comparison between Trent and Josh. Trent had no passion for the game; Josh lives to compete. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Scumbag Pats. Belichick will get up there at his presser and make light of it. That player for the Pats should miss as many games as Allen does. And get fined $100k No he won’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: Well, for what it’s worth, I am a doctor and I have assessed traumatic brain injuries many times. A brief little Dash like that is completely non-diagnostic. I hope I’m wrong. Why so snarky? Because if I am wrong the Bills medical staff and trainers should all be fired immediately for letting the kid run off the field unassisted. Would you not agree, Doctor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: Nothing against Barkley, but we need 17 back for next week. And Singletary. This is a very important game. He’s in the protocol, and I think the average for that is over a week. Plan on no JA for TEN game and very possibly a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: No he won’t. I know he won’t pal. Relax. You aren’t the only person who knows what fines are etc. I am just angry at the Pats doing the same type things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: He’s in the protocol, and I think the average for that is over a week. Plan on no JA for TEN game and very possibly a loss. We almost beat the Patriots with ***** QB play. I’ll take Barkley and very possibly a win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Good for the guys and McDermott, the refs were trash that entire game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yep. That is intention to hurt. Classic example. I haven’t rewatched but in the moment I thought it was more trying to protect the first and stop him in his tracks more than intend to kill him. Yea he’s wrapped but if the big athletic guy carries another couple yards it could be game changing so I’m going to stop him in his tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: Frankly, I’m surprised he wasn’t ejected. I fully expect a big fine and possibly a suspension. There was no need for that as Allen was already under tackle. Like the Gronk hit on White? Pats and the NFL are just another reason why I am considering forgetting football exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Get well Big Youngin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 ..NO WAY IN HELL will I ever doubt this kid's moxy, drive, initiative, bawls to the wall "I'm gonna be the Bills franchise QB" mindset......he is WE and not ME....BUT...like his cannon arm which is being trained to be a finesse, underneath game, he need to slow his adrenaline pump to trust the "other 10"......he wants Bflo to be THE best but it takes time son.......we have patience and so must YOU..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: I haven’t rewatched but in the moment I thought it was more trying to protect the first and stop him in his tracks more than intend to kill him. Yea he’s wrapped but if the big athletic guy carries another couple yards it could be game changing so I’m going to stop him in his tracks He led with his helmet. To helmet. It's the first thing that hit and Josh's head went shooting back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, Bills Oil Company said: Josh Allen against Belichick Defense: Brady scored 9 points on ours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: He led with his helmet. To helmet. It's the first thing that hit and Josh's head went shooting back. That's where I'm at. Maybe he wasn't head hunting, but it sure looked like it. Unnecessarily violent hit while his teammate was already on his way to wrapping him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: He led with his helmet. To helmet. It's the first thing that hit and Josh's head went shooting back. I didn’t say it was a clean hit. I said I thought his intention was to not allow another foot gained. In that context there were few ways to stop him in his tracks the way they were coming together. its still a bad hit but maybe I’m giving the guy too much credit and he was focused on the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Al Riveron is the second least-qualified human being in the country. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I haven’t rewatched but in the moment I thought it was more trying to protect the first and stop him in his tracks more than intend to kill him. Yea he’s wrapped but if the big athletic guy carries another couple yards it could be game changing so I’m going to stop him in his tracks No way. He got up and was celebrating. He knew it was Allen, knew it was the QB, took the big shot at his helmet and got up all proud of himself. And, he should be, he was told all week if you can get a shot on Allen running go for it! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 My guess 100% chance he's out week 5. Because we have a bye week 6 giving him 3 full weeks to get right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: My hunch is that he's not playing next week. When you see an apparent concussion that violent, you have to put football to the side momentarily and consider the kid's long term well being. **** it, let's just call the press conference today. Following in Luck's footsteps Josh Allen has decided to retire quoting fan concerns over his health as his main motivation. Wouldnt that be our "Luck" when we find a franchise QB with a GOAT cannon and possible GOAT scrambling abilities? Edited September 29, 2019 by Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I haven’t rewatched but in the moment I thought it was more trying to protect the first and stop him in his tracks more than intend to kill him. Yea he’s wrapped but if the big athletic guy carries another couple yards it could be game changing so I’m going to stop him in his tracks Here you go if you want to rewatch . It is a straight helmet to helmet. Edited September 29, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, NoSaint said: I didn’t say it was a clean hit. I said I thought his intention was to not allow another foot gained. In that context there were few ways to stop him in his tracks the way they were coming together. its still a bad hit but maybe I’m giving the guy too much credit and he was focused on the injury. I'm not saying his intent was to injure. I'm saying that Josh was held up and he chose to lower his head to hit Josh in the helmet. He could have gone lower, he could have hit with shoulder. To me he was head hunting. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Good news for Barkley fans then. His career quest for that elusive 3rd league win. Continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: No way. He got up and was celebrating. He knew it was Allen, knew it was the QB, took the big shot at his helmet and got up all proud of himself. And, he should be, he was told all week if you can get a shot on Allen running go for it! And if anyone is confused about the intent, see the KVN personal foul on Barkley. NE clearly made multiple attempts to injure both QBs. That's who they are and how they play, and the NFL let them get away with it scot-free today, as usual. 14 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, thebandit27 said: And if anyone is confused about the intent, see the KVN personal foul on Barkley. NE clearly made multiple attempts to injure both QBs. That's who they are and how they play, and the NFL let them get away with it scot-free today, as usual. Meanwhile our guys never do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I haven’t rewatched but in the moment I thought it was more trying to protect the first and stop him in his tracks more than intend to kill him. Yea he’s wrapped but if the big athletic guy carries another couple yards it could be game changing so I’m going to stop him in his tracks Might have a point if he hadn’t stood over him and flexed...he was trying to injure him there 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I think the hit was very avoidable. Looked like a dirty hit to me. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biLLyBuFFs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 not to sound callous, but the kid did that to himself. He tried running loosely around dudes trying to take that shot.. he HAS to understand smart football situations in the NFL. he'll last about as long as a Kolb mat slip if he keeps doing that ish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Here you go Once JAs helmet starts going down, and given jones position on him... there was almost no legal strike zone to truly stop forward progress. I dont doubt he wanted wanted to lay lumber but it’s also late in the game and if I recall was relatively near the first down marker. If Allen drags a guy 3 yards extending a drive... it’s an absolutely ugly hit and needs to be penalized but it’ll be tough to eliminate from the game completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 this is the ONLY post-game thread that matters.Period 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Once JAs helmet starts going down, and given jones position on him... there was almost no legal strike zone to truly stop forward progress. I dont doubt he wanted wanted to lay lumber but it’s also late in the game and if I recall was relatively near the first down marker. If Allen drags a guy 3 yards extending a drive... it’s an absolutely ugly hit and needs to be penalized but it’ll be tough to eliminate from the game completely. LOL he could have hit him literally anywhere from the neck down, he just decided to go high and try to knock him out of the game. Not hard to see 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Sorry if it's been stated, but JA returned from injury last year and had a better half of the season. Let's hope that's the case again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I'm not saying his intent was to injure. I'm saying that Josh was held up and he chose to lower his head to hit Josh in the helmet. He could have gone lower, he could have hit with shoulder. To me he was head hunting. The tricky part in live time is josh going down and to the inside. Lowering a shoulder into his chest on his original path puts a helmet into his helmet once he starts going low and inside of him. again, not arguing it’s clean, or a good hit but I think a tougher spot than some acknowledged in a split second with a lot of moving pieces and a goal of ending forward progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: **** it, let's just call the press conference today. Following in Luck's footsteps Josh Allen has decided to retire quoting fan concerns over his health as his main motivation. Wouldnt that be our "Luck" when we find a franchise QB with a GOAT cannon and possible GOAT scrambling abilities? Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 What a frustrating situation. Would have loved to see Josh on that last drive, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, LSHMEAB said: Relax. I'm as chill as a cucumber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtownBillsFan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Once JAs helmet starts going down, and given jones position on him... there was almost no legal strike zone to truly stop forward progress. I dont doubt he wanted wanted to lay lumber but it’s also late in the game and if I recall was relatively near the first down marker. If Allen drags a guy 3 yards extending a drive... it’s an absolutely ugly hit and needs to be penalized but it’ll be tough to eliminate from the game completely. You're trying way too hard to give benefit of doubt, and defend the indefensible. Edited September 29, 2019 by TtownBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Trying to explain that hit as anything but deliberate intent to injure is ridiculous. These guys are NFL athletes, they’ve played football at the highest level for a long time...that was 100% cynical hit to the head. The ‘where was he s’posed to hit him?’ stuff is BS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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