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1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

boy did this thread turn sour. OP, you should of known you'd draw a bunch of neg nancy's with a thread like this.

I am doing well, I was sure somebody would name 31 teams better then Buffalo....lol

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1 hour ago, whorlnut said:

Patriots, Rams, Chiefs, Steelers, Cowboys, Texans, Chargers, Saints, Eagles. 

 

We we are getting closer, but we’re not quite there boys. 

The 2 teams from Texas are not better , we're at the same level at least. 

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26 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

You're a homer

Ask yourself how many all pro players on this roster? answer most likely  none.................... now stop smoking that weed before posting

 

You need star players at skilled positions and we have none to speak of  WR.... RB....TE....  on defense maybe one of two guys that could be very good.  

Is this really a viable measurement of a successful TEAM, individual accolades? We have some really good players on both sides of the ball. With winning comes recognition. There will be a few guys who get that recognition this year when we are winning more games. There are numerous QB's who have made average WR's look better, getting them rich in the process, over the years. Josh is going to look a lot better with Beasley and Brown out there. The backfield is going to look better due to the OL improvements and additions to the unit. I also expect the offense to be able to sustain more drives this year which will help keep the defense fresh and the amount of big plays made will be on the rise. I expect more turnovers created by our group this year and a better overall TO differential. Time of possession and the turnover differential are better indicators of success than individual accolades. 

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54 minutes ago, nucci said:

You think the Bills are a  top 5 team in the NFL at  this point? 

 

He said which teams would beat us twice.  In other words - who's so much better they are dominant over us?

 

We're closing the gap.  

 

I don't think there's 5 teams that are so much better they would roll over us in a home and away game in the same season.  

 

There's more than 5 teams better but that's not the question.

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1 hour ago, whorlnut said:

Patriots, Rams, Chiefs, Steelers, Cowboys, Texans, Chargers, Saints, Eagles. 

 

We we are getting closer, but we’re not quite there boys. 

Steelers and Cowboys, imo are not better than us. 

1 hour ago, BillsDude said:

 

Take off the middle 3 and we got a deal.

Here, here

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4 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

I have no idea why anyone thinks the Cowboys are any good.  They had a cake schedule last year, and then got a good win in the playoffs. That does not mean they, on the whole, are any good. 

Overrated in a weak NFC East

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1 hour ago, SoTier said:

On paper, I don't think that the Bills D is good enough to stop the offenses of the Pats, Rams, Chiefs, Saints, Eagles, Steelers, Chargers, and Browns while their offense isn't good enough to score enough against these Ds, even if the defenses, like the Chiefs', aren't great.   I think the Bills could very well lose twice to the Cowboys, Vikings, and Seahawks although they would have better chances of spliltting with this trio than the others.

 

If Andrew Luck was healthy, I'd add Indy to the second group, too.

  I guess that it is fortunate that our schedule formula does not mean playing the top 10 teams during the season.  Fortunate for some of the top teams that they are not forced to play each other in some form of pigskin gladiating.  The Bills just like any other team can only play the teams on the schedule and can't worrying about demoralizing schedules that don't exist.  I do think that while facing a team such as the Patriots in the playoffs is daunting it certainly is not hopeless.  A team such as the Bills could be the beneficiary of a timely fumble or interception from their opponent.

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KC

Chargers

New England

Rams

New Orleans

 

If Andrew Luck is healthy I would add Indy

 

Probably lose best 2 out of 3:

Philly

 

Bunch of teams are close that I would give an edge to until proven otherwise:

Pittsburgh (though have a feeling they are going to be down without AB and Ben's a year closer to retirement)

Dallas

Cleveland (real deal or paper tiger?)

Seattle

 

But point is that as usual come the end of November there will be a lot of team names up on the dreaded "In The Hunt" graphic.

 

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Whether or not they would split is not the question.  Upsets happen in the regular season all the time.

 

The question is, how many teams do you think the Bills could walk into their stadium and beat in January.

 

I don't think we'd be touching the Pats / Chiefs / Eagles / Saints / Rams (just to name 5) in that type of situation.

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2 hours ago, H2o said:

This is all hypothetical and based off of paper right now, but until we show it on the field I say these 5 are better.

 

1. Kansas City - Their offense from top to bottom is just downright scary with all of the weapons Mahomes has. 

2. New England - They still have Tom Brady and BB. 

3. New Orleans - The defense took a step forward last year and the offense hasn't been a problem since Brees. 

4. Los Angeles Rams - Again, another dynamic offense and a defense that sports the best player in the game. 

5. Cleveland Browns - Yes, the Browns. On paper that team is stacked. We'll have to see how the chemistry works out. 

 

With this being said, I again say I feel this team is special. We already had a stout defense and they took steps to improve the offense everywhere. The key will be Josh and I believe the young man will take a giant step forward this year. Not only do I think we make the playoffs, but I think we win at least one game in them. People/networks can publish all of the Power Rankings they want, PFF can spout their crap, and anyone else can say whatever they want. See what they are saying in January. 

How can you not have the Bears on this list.  They were 12-4 and will probably win the same number (if not more) games this year.

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Just now, Chuck Wagon said:

Whether or not they would split is not the question.  Upsets happen in the regular season all the time.

 

The question is, how many teams do you think the Bills could walk into their stadium and beat in January.

 

I don't think we'd be touching the Pats / Chiefs / Eagles / Saints / Rams (just to name 5) in that type of situation.

Well, we wouldn’t be walking in to the Eagles or Saints stadiums in January. But we might meet them at a neutral site in February.

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It's really a stretch to say the Bills are one of the top five teams in the NFL right now.  I realize many of us are high on the fumes of "the process" but let's face it -- this team hasn't proven anything yet.

 

If I put on my "realistic" hat and avoid blatant homerism, I think one could make a reasonable argument that when you examine the franchise from top to bottom -- coaching and personnel -- the Bills have the talent to be in the upper half of the league.  So that's top sixteen.  I can't go farther than that until they start playing some real games.

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Five teams I’d make unlimited bets on finishing better than the Bills:

Patriots

Steelers

Browns

Chiefs

Rams

 

The Bills are somewhere in the next group:

Jets

Tennessee

Colts (dependent on Luck) 

Chargers

Eagles

Packers

Vikings

Bears

Saints

Falcons

 

....so, top half of the league? There’s no shame in that, they’re trending in the right direction but the offensive skill positions aren’t there yet.

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Just now, eanyills said:

Five teams I’d make unlimited bets on finishing better than the Bills:

Patriots

Steelers

Browns

Chiefs

Rams

 

The Bills are somewhere in the next group:

Jets

Tennessee

Colts (dependent on Luck) 

Chargers

Eagles

Packers

Vikings

Bears

Saints

Falcons

 

....so, top half of the league? There’s no shame in that, they’re trending in the right direction but the offensive skill positions aren’t there yet.

 

How did the Jets make it into that group? I keep hearing that the Jets are going to be better, but I cannot understand why. 

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2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Four posts in and we already have:

 

"better then" in the thread title 

"pump the breaks" in a post

 

let's go for the record!!!!!!!

 

It's defiantly a mute point, but I could care less.

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2 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

Love the enthusiasm and optimism but how do we know? We’ve only seen preseason. If we were perennial winners, maybe this would be an easier question, but we’ve still got to prove ourselves when it counts. 

 

Love what I see so far but I’ve got to pump the breaks on preseason optimism. 

 

 

 

Now turn that argument around to the other 31 teams. It's only preseason. How do we know for sure those teams are any good? Because of last year? What if all the reasons those teams were good last year changed this year? Football is more than a Madden score.

20 minutes ago, eball said:

It's really a stretch to say the Bills are one of the top five teams in the NFL right now.  I realize many of us are high on the fumes of "the process" but let's face it -- this team hasn't proven anything yet.

 

If I put on my "realistic" hat and avoid blatant homerism, I think one could make a reasonable argument that when you examine the franchise from top to bottom -- coaching and personnel -- the Bills have the talent to be in the upper half of the league.  So that's top sixteen.  I can't go farther than that until they start playing some real games.

 

Part of my optimism is schedule based. We do not have a very difficult schedule. Rather than worry about where the Bills rank in the whole NFL, just think about where we rank versus the teams we will play.

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2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Four posts in and we already have:

 

"better then" in the thread title 

"pump the breaks" in a post

 

let's go for the record!!!!!!!

Here me out now. It is my understanding that those are TSWisms.

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36 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Well, we wouldn’t be walking in to the Eagles or Saints stadiums in January. But we might meet them at a neutral site in February.

 

 

It's a thought exercise.  I think that's more relevant than saying "we could surprise every team in the league at home in week 6".

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the Pats, i have about a 1% belief they will be worse off than the Bills under any scenario.

 

which means the Bills are playing for a wild card spot from week one

 

so the Bills could be up there and still not make the playoffs due to an AFC division fleecing a weak NFC division or an AFC division with top strong teams crushing it's 2 others

 

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41 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Well, we wouldn’t be walking in to the Eagles or Saints stadiums in January. But we might meet them at a neutral site in February.

for clarification, Is it 

 

in to   or    into    

 

asking for a friend    :lol:

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2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

 

I think Buffalo would beat some of the tougher teams at home. Top 5?  No

 

two road games to begin, which on paper they have a shot, would be nice to split at worst....

 

better grab one, the Pats are week 4

 

 

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It's the NFL, so it would be difficult for most teams to win twice against even a middle of the road team. The good news about this mental exercise is at least I can honestly say we shouldn't be doormats for anyone.

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13 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

Welcome to fandom.  

 

43 years of it, grounds for some optimism in 2019 are undeniable, first time since 2001 or so.....

 

don't let us down, Bills......  please....

 

 

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Clearly better?  Ok:

pats

rams

chiefs

eagles

chargers

colts (with luck)

saints

 

probably better:

browns

steelers

texans

seahawks

packers

cowboys

 

And just to be clear, I’m feeling very optimistic. But want to see it in the reg season. I think the 2019 upside is to get into that group of “prob better” teams. 

 

I think the 2020 upside is being in the top tier. 

 

Just trying to be optimistic and patient at the same time. 

 

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Realistically, this squad is a top 15 on the field and a top 25 on paper. As much as we love the team,  there are very few, if any, nfl analysts that would not consider the Bills as over-achieving if they reached further than a wild card game in the playoffs. The McBean regime has assembled a good group, but one without any prime-of-their-career game changers that have historically dominated the league at the top level. 

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1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

How did the Jets make it into that group? I keep hearing that the Jets are going to be better, but I cannot understand why. 

^^^This. Don’t forget the Jets just came through an offseason of rank dysfunction, firing their GM right after they gave him the keys to the kingdom in running the draft and finishing up FA! Who does that and expects to be world beaters the same year? Their line is expected to be terrible, and their coach who apparently won a power struggle, never wanted the biggest FA splash that they got, in Bell. Why shouldn’t the Jets be on a “prove it” basis even more so than the Bills? They are the ones with a 1st yr HC who was just fired within the same division (how do those types of hires usually go, *cough* sexy Rexy) 1st yr GM and questions along their roster to boot. C’mon man! We should be considered favorites to sweep them imho, and be in a class of better teams above them. 

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