Chuck Wagon Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Between the Cardinals, Redskins, Bengals, Dolphins, there's setting up to be some terrible football this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Bringing facts Is that allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, teef said: McD and gase have faced each other 4 times. McD has won 3 out of the 4. Why ignore that? And Gase is 2-2 vs Belichick in their last four games. Trust me, I’m not saying Gase is better than McDermott. At this point, I think they are pretty much the same. I think McDermott has the better head coaching personality but he has his flaws as well. IMO, the Bills and Jets are basically the same team. Whichever qb progress the most will determine each team’s season. 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Gase doesn't have the personality to be a Head Coach. He is a massive sulker. His sideline demeanour is atrocious. The polar opposite of a Head Coach. That’s fair. But I think we are more in a league of specialize coaches. If Gase just works with the offense and Darnold and lets Williams run the D, the Jets should be fine. I don’t think McDermott has much say in offensive gameplans. I will say the Jets’ coaching situation has way more potential to blow up however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: And Gase is 2-2 vs Belichick in their last four games. Trust me, I’m not saying Gase is better than McDermott. At this point, I think they are pretty much the same. I think McDermott has the better head coaching personality but he has his flaws as well. IMO, the Bills and Jets are basically the same team. Whichever qb progress the most will determine each team’s season. But the Patriots struggles in South Florida have run through plenty of average to poor Dolphins HC and QB combos. It isn't a result of anything brilliant that Gase or Tannehill did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: But the Patriots struggles in South Florida have run through plenty of average to poor Dolphins HC and QB combos. It isn't a result of anything brilliant that Gase or Tannehill did. That would be my other point about Gase. Tannehill was whatever, Cutler sucks. Basically, since Manning, Darnold is the best qb (by far) Gase has had. It definitely can blow up there but I won’t be so quick to dismiss them as some other posters have. They definitely have some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: And Gase is 2-2 vs Belichick in their last four games. Trust me, I’m not saying Gase is better than McDermott. At this point, I think they are pretty much the same. I think McDermott has the better head coaching personality but he has his flaws as well. IMO, the Bills and Jets are basically the same team. Whichever qb progress the most will determine each team’s season. I pretty much agree with all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Augie said: Do they have a separate HOF for preseason? HOF = How Obviously Futile? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: As always thanks for the update YOLO ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That would be my other point about Gase. Tannehill was whatever, Cutler sucks. Basically, since Manning, Darnold is the best qb (by far) Gase has had. It definitely can blow up there but I won’t be so quick to dismiss them as some other posters have. They definitely have some talent. I have not dismissed the Jets at all. I think their roster is a wildcard contending roster. Their offensive if the line holds up can be explosive. But I have serious doubts about the coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Obviously we're working with tiny sample sizes for the most part, but I think Darnold and Lamar both looked pretty good last night. Haskins still struggling a bit, though he had a nice TD pass, and Kyler definitely looked a little off in his limited play after looking great the week prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That would be my other point about Gase. Tannehill was whatever, Cutler sucks. Why is this an excuse for Gase, but not McDermott? Has he had elite QB play his first two years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Man I’d LOVE to see 2 nice drives tonight by The 1st team offense on the first one no running just passing , with a TD pass to finish the drive , and the second one with a nice mix of both finished with a score TD or a FG , Go Bills baby !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Why is this an excuse for Gase, but not McDermott? Has he had elite QB play his first two years? Tyrod was flawed but he forced him into a west coast offense and forced Peterman into the lineup. But they both are going to be determined by the QBs they have now. Very even football teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Tyrod was flawed but There is no but. Tyrod was terrible that year. He actually got worse as the season progressed. Getting that team to 9-7 with terrible QB play and all the trades in the offseason was a miracle. Call the playoff spot a fluke but that season was a more impressive coaching job than anything Gase has ever done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: I love all these fools who are going to look like fools come mid-october. Especially the jets sack-sniffers around here. From your mouth to God’s ?? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: There is no but. Tyrod was terrible that year. He actually got worse as the season progressed. Getting that team to 9-7 with terrible QB play and all the trades in the offseason was a miracle. Call the playoff spot a fluke but that season was a more impressive coaching job than anything Gase has ever done. He was terrible because McDermott hired a west coast OC (which many people knew was a terrible fit for him), then traded the best receiver and tried to replace him with scrubs. I wasn’t the biggest Tyrod guy but McDermott did him no favors. Either way, it’s about Allen and Darnold going forward. No excuses for either coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, WideNine said: For some reason tonight's preseason lineup reminded me of those pain scales at the doctor's office. 2 hours ago, drf1835 said: Yes agree. Allen has ‘it’ factor. And I feel Darnold has the ‘that’ factor, Mayfield the ‘this’ factor, and Rosen the ‘what” factor. Funny Stuff Edited August 16, 2019 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, ScottLaw said: I'd give the defensive edge to the Bills for sure. Offensively the Jets will be good, IMO. Top 10 good and as we know offense rules in this league. Good offense=good team. I'm just hoping the Bills offense cracks top 20. Oh yeah for sure. The Jets have some good pieces on defense but they have some ways to go to catch the Bills. I dont think some fans get how bad our offense has been under McDermott. If we can get to 20th, which is such a pathetically low bar, they should be in the playoff hunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Actually Gase went 10-6 his first year in Miami with the combination of Matt Moore and Ryan Tannehill as they started 1-4 and finished 9-2 that year winning 6 straight at one point. I'd say that's a good coaching job. Tyrod was far from terrible that year. He wasn't good but terrible? Nah. Oh yah !!! Miami is a much better team after Gase departure then what he inherited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Some of the responses in this thread make me wonder what games people were actually watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: OMG you just know the Bills are going to be on the losing end of one of these calls. Where does the NFL hire their officials?? Watched the replay and thought, why are people hating on this call? It's pretty obvious defensive pass interference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Putin said: Oh yah !!! Miami is a much better team after Gase departure then what he inherited I mean, they were basically a .500 team during his tenure there despite only having his starting QB for literally half their games. The fact that they decided to blow everything up after firing him isn't really on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Some of the responses in this thread make me wonder what games people were actually watching. It is interesting. Many of the same people who championed Tyrod and EJ as franchise caliber QBs, seem to feel Allen has little chance of ever becoming even an above average NFL QB. Just hoping their judgement about Allen is as wrong as their judgement about Tyrod and EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Is this real? How the ***** was that call upheld? All this PI rule change does is give the refs more opportunities to completely blow a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I always liked Ryan Finley in college at NC State. He didn't get picked until the 4th round. So far in preseason he looks real accurate and comfortable in the pocket for Cincinnati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: OMG you just know the Bills are going to be on the losing end of one of these calls. Where does the NFL hire their officials?? Dean Blandino said he thinks the OPI was actually. Push off by the WR earlier in the route. He said he would need the all 22 to confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Kingsbury’s hair ain’t going anywhere, that’s for sure Aha. A phone call to Mark Davis must have given Kingsy the ‘must have stylist to the NFL movers and shakers’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 13 hours ago, VW82 said: Kyler Murray is not accurate. He's missed a bunch of difficult but makeable throws so far in addition to the typical rookie issues (delay of game, poor decision making , etc.). Did Cards just whiff on two QBs in b2b years? Can’t see over things, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Lots of Redskins fans dressed as empty seats Falcons stadium was pretty empty last night too. The fans that were there were pretty enthusiastic, but they don't have nearly as many die-hards as we do. 14 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Jets fans get green "rally" flags for week 1 vs Bills. They can use them to wipe their tears after they realize the media over-inflated the teams abilities once again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: It's incredible how a billion dollar product is so unbelievably inept. Goodell is a ***** show commissioner when it comes to integrity of the actual game. He's a joke. Not defending Goodell, but the PI review rule can’t be blamed on him. Blame it on Sean Peyton who lobbied the coaches who lobbied the rules committee to enact the new rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 hours ago, MAGA-Man said: Yep, the Jets trading up with the Colts ahead of the Bills in 2018 could become another "thing" in Bills history. We'll find out. It will not. Darnold will be good but I am much happier that we have Allen. He will be a superstar. Allen and Darnold are very completive with each other, on and off the field, and I have a feeling that Allen will not allow himself to be bested by Darnold at anything. He is the alpha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 By the way, #87 for the Falcons, TE Jaedon Graham really stood out yesterday. I'm not sure exactly where he is on their depth chart (I think he was practice squad last year) but he looked like the real deal in person. Once he caught my eye, I started keying on him and I was impressed. May not be a superstar type, but I am guessing he will become a solid pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: I'd give the defensive edge to the Bills for sure. Offensively the Jets will be good, IMO. Top 10 good and as we know offense rules in this league. Good offense=good team. I'm just hoping the Bills offense cracks top 20. Genuinely asking, why do you think the Jets will be Top 10 good on offense? They have a meh, at best, offensive line. Their WRs are similar to ours - Anderson, Enunwa, Crowder etc. Their TE’s are about as mediocre as ours too. Do you think Darnold & Bell are that good? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Moreover, he has a real turnover problem. I remember Defenses getting tons of pressure on him in college and he coughed it up. #USCQB 14 hours ago, Steptide said: Arizona is gonna be horrendous this season 2020 draft: trade Kyler Murray and draft Tua with #1 pick. 2021 draft: trade Tua and draft Trevor Lawrence with #1 pick rinse, repeat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Darnold definitely needs to take care of the ball better. But if he is a turnover machine, what do you call a qb with a higher int % and more fumbles in less games? I’m just curious why do you think McDermott is such a better coach? Gase is a huge weirdo but he actually has a higher winning % and it wasn’t like he was coaching a loaded Miami team. You mean other then the fact that McD kick's Gase ass in head to head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Falcons stadium was pretty empty last night too. The fans that were there were pretty enthusiastic, but they don't have nearly as many die-hards as we do. It's always been a college football town, and always will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: I'd give the defensive edge to the Bills for sure. Offensively the Jets will be good, IMO. Top 10 good and as we know offense rules in this league. Good offense=good team. I'm just hoping the Bills offense cracks top 20. Not with that O line they wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Actually Gase went 10-6 his first year in Miami with the combination of Matt Moore and Ryan Tannehill as they started 1-4 and finished 9-2 that year winning 6 straight at one point. I'd say that's a good coaching job. Tyrod was far from terrible that year. He wasn't good but terrible? Nah. So if it was up to you who would you choose for the Bills HC, McDermott or Gase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 16 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: Yeah, I fear that Darnold is better than Allen. The eyeball test seems to suggest this. There is DEFINITELY more natural accuracy and consistency, and he looks more in control and decisive. Allen still looks iffy. Dont live in fear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Dont live in fear What I find interesting is that now the eyeball test is valid where last year it wasn't. I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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