Warcodered Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Dawson Knox used to be a QB couldn't he throw the ball on a trick play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Tyree wouldn't even jog to the line during the 2 minute drill, so I don't think TE is in his future. I came away very unimpressed with his effort after each UB game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 hours ago, freddyjj said: What ? No puppy or kitty ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: Dawson Knox used to be a QB couldn't he throw the ball on a trick play? Maybe the"razzle dazzle". Allen to Sills to Knox to Allen who throws a 50 yard strike to Sills. As good as an idea as the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I love this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Tyree wouldn't even jog to the line during the 2 minute drill, so I don't think TE is in his future. I came away very unimpressed with his effort after each UB game. Was this during rookie minicamp? Uh-oh...PS QB may not be in his future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Was this during rookie minicamp? Uh-oh...PS QB may not be in his future This was during his college games. Towards the end of their season there was a real lack of effort on his part in crucial parts of the game. It actually really surprised me that he was picked up at all by the Bills when they push the effort narrative so much. We will see how useful he can be as a scout team QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Practice field? Believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 ..."716" poster who has a scouting background and is one helluva TBD resource, cites his suspect hands and fumble tendencies......not 100% sure, but I think he advocated that Tyree stay in school for another year.....I'd say it sounds like he is chained to the PS and if something happns to Josh or Bradley, McBeane is on the horn versus ANY call up ideas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: WTH??? Is this the Joe Webb package thread? Tyree Jackson won't make it off of the PS I don't even want to see a QB on the PS. Let him compete with Osweiler, wherever he's at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Well, if Tyree is gonna be the next Joe Webb...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 11 hours ago, tomur67 said: I'm daydreaming about these two young QB's with cannon arms , on the field at the same time, not knowing which one would be QB or TE or WR or RB. Imagine the possibilities. Keep Dreaming because it won’t happen this year as Tyree is going to be on the PS where he belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said: I remember all the success the team had with the Brad Smith package, we killed the league with that.... Ohh wait, no, that sucked balls. Not saying he took the league by storm, but his 6 yards per carry weren’t bad, and again my main reason for liking the idea is to force opposing defenses to take time out of their week to prepare for something we would likely run only 1-2x per game. 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They only gameplan for what they fear As I said above, Brad Smith averaged 6 yards per carry while here. If (admittedly a big if) Jackson can do what Smith did, then I do consider 6 ypc something to cause worry. 7 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: How would he be on the field is he isn't on the 53? He wouldn’t. Edited May 16, 2019 by JohnBonhamRocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 What's wrong with the tight ends who were signed as tight ends? Dawson Knox is a bit raw, but he knows more about playing tight end than Tyree Jackson does, and he's just as athletic. Kroft is not quite as athletic, but is a good all around tight end if he can stay healthy. I think the OP is overrating the extra couple inches of height that Tyree Jackson possesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I want Josh to be nothing but our QB, who spends 99% of his time in the pocket throwing darts or handing off. The only way this makes any sense is if Tyree turns out to be a top 2 TE on this team, after all the TE’s we brought in. I don’t think anybody sees that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 How is Jackson's hard count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 13 hours ago, tomur67 said: I'm daydreaming about these two young QB's with cannon arms , on the field at the same time, not knowing which one would be QB or TE or WR or RB. Imagine the possibilities. Despite the snarky comments here, you aren’t alone - Joe Buscaglia and Matt Fairburn discussed the idea of using Jackson in different packages on their podcast last week. Of course, few members here would speak as sarcastically to them as they have in this thread. Its an interesting idea. I don’t think it will happen this year but if Jackson shows well in preseason it might make it has to sneak him on the PS. That would make you wonder whether the Bills would take advantage of his athleticism, rather than waste a roster spot and deactivate him every week 4 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Well, if Tyree is gonna be the next Joe Webb...... Laugh now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...do you have Brad Smith on speed dial?...we can reincarnate the "Puddycat".....with all three.... This was the funniest thing I’ve read for some time!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I can’t believe so many people fell for this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 19 hours ago, freddyjj said: Yeah, I’m seeing this, but hearing Chief Wiggum singing: ?Sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows, everything! ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I am in to this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Go back to playing Madden Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 21 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Nope, that would be dumb. Put your best players out there and Tyree most likely wont even make the 53. I wonder how many UDFA QBs have made NFL active rosters their rookie season ... man that has to be a very very small number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: I can’t believe so many people fell for this thread and a reminder why newbies shouldn't be allowed to start threads until they know how its done. They should all be directed to take lessons from @BringBackFergy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: I can’t believe so many people fell for this thread I can’t believe how judgmental some people are. “You can only start a thread under these conditions...” Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 23 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: 53 TE on the roster. I'd be ok with that as long as they keep a couple on the practice squad in case of injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: I can’t believe how judgmental some people are. “You can only start a thread under these conditions...” Come on man. Take a minute after you read how ridiculous the post was. Then click in the posters profile. If someone has like 8 posts, there’s a good chance it’s someone F$&King with you. You took the bait. Hook. Line. Sinker. Congrats on being naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 7:24 AM, JohnBonhamRocks said: A lot of negativity about the idea, but I think 1-2x per game having him out there as a sub-package Brad Smith type could be useful. Jackson ran in the 4.5s, right? I’m all for making opposing defenses have to gameplan more. Come on , really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, klos63 said: Come on , really? Call me crazy, but yes I’d like (i) as varied an offense as possible, and (ii) to make our opponents have to work harder to gameplan against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Call me crazy, but yes I’d like (i) as varied an offense as possible, and (ii) to make our opponents have to work harder to gameplan against us. Why would having a undrafted QB playing TE make the defense have to work harder to gameplan? I would think it would be easier to game plan against. Edited May 18, 2019 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, klos63 said: Why would having a undrafted QB playing TE make the defense have to work harder to gameplan? I would think it would be easier to game plan against. It doesn't really make much sense to me it's basically a trick play which sure it's always nice to have a few of those in the arsenal, but the moment you have them both out there it's going to be obvious something is up. Better to use players that are out there normally like Knox or Sills if he makes the 53 basically someone that might be able to consistently make a wide open pass that's hopefully made available by the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 9:24 PM, JohnBonhamRocks said: Not saying he took the league by storm, but his 6 yards per carry weren’t bad, and again my main reason for liking the idea is to force opposing defenses to take time out of their week to prepare for something we would likely run only 1-2x per game. As I said above, Brad Smith averaged 6 yards per carry while here. If (admittedly a big if) Jackson can do what Smith did, then I do consider 6 ypc something to cause worry. He wouldn’t. Am I misremembering or didnt he have an awful interception or two. Are we going to put him at tight end for end arounds or is it the throwing threat we'd likely try to use at one point what we're going for? Brad Smith was a more natural runner. He could return, run routes and read blocks. Having some speed and making something happen on the fly is a completely different skill set in my opinion. I don't think Tyree is good enough to be a decoy in other areas where teams think he'd make a catch, throw a block, or any of that. It'd be the same uncreative attempts at being creative we've watched this team do for years. He'd trot out there, get motioned into the backfield and run a QB run read option time and time again. I could be wrong and I love creativity. I just don't think Tyree has the skillset that would allow for the unpredictability needed for it to really be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Do you really think the coaching staff will keep a guy on the 53-man roster (not to mention active on gameday), who is not a primary backup, does not play special teams and would only be useful to run 1-2 truck plays every week? Not going to happen. Honestly, Tyree Jackson will be lucky to make the 53. He's a long-term developmental QB, who went undrafted. Most teams will not carry 3 QBs on their primary roster, and I don't see us doing it either. Unless he plays fantastic in training camp/preseason, the Bills will stash him on the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 9:23 AM, Just Joshin' said: What is the fixation on having players change positions? I blame Bruce Jenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 15 hours ago, klos63 said: Why would having a undrafted QB playing TE make the defense have to work harder to gameplan? I would think it would be easier to game plan against. I never said TE. I said a Brad Smith-like role given his speed and athleticism. Jackson averaged 4.0 ypc or more in 2016 and 2017, which I’m guessing was because he had to rely on his legs not his arm, whereas he averaged below 3 ypc in 2018 when he had almost 100 more passing attempts than years prior. Point being: he can carry the rock when asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I never said TE. I said a Brad Smith-like role given his speed and athleticism. Jackson averaged 4.0 ypc or more in 2016 and 2017, which I’m guessing was because he had to rely on his legs not his arm, whereas he averaged below 3 ypc in 2018 when he had almost 100 more passing attempts than years prior. Point being: he can carry the rock when asked. Another minimally productive, wildly overrated player that somehow still holds fascination for Bills fans. My fantasy is a day when the Bills never again have to put gadget players on the field in a futile attempt to overcome for not having good players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 2:39 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: WTH??? Is this the Joe Webb package thread? Tyree Jackson won't make it off of the PS ....what attributes other than his obvious size and advertised arm strength lead you to believe he'd be a good addition to PS as a QB prospect?.....from what I'm reading, he makes "steak tartare" look "well done" and developing him probably takes more time than it did to build Rome...is it worth it?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Another minimally productive, wildly overrated player that somehow still holds fascination for Bills fans. My fantasy is a day when the Bills never again have to put gadget players on the field in a futile attempt to overcome for not having good players. How do you explain his 6 ypc as a Bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: How do you explain his 6 ypc as a Bill? On 34 total carries across 3 years? Are you serious? In other meaningless statistics, Bruce Mathison had a higher career ypc than Michael Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, KD in CA said: On 34 total carries across 3 years? Are you serious? In other meaningless statistics, Bruce Mathison had a higher career ypc than Michael Vick. His whole thing is that he only had a few carries per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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