tomur67 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 John Breech of CBS Sports suggests that it would be a logical trade between the Texans and the Bills. The Bills would get Clowney, but give up its first round pick in 2020 and Lawson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 No more than a 2nd. Dee Ford Trade is the comp I would use far more than the Chandler trade. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills of Boston Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 There is no chance in hell they're trading a first for him. None “please don’t appear on freezing cold takes” 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Would be 50/50 on this. Would be ecstatic with a Lawson/2020 2nd for Clowney. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Lawson doesn’t have much trade value. We didn’t pick up his 5th year option. Teams will wait until he hits the market and even then he is a second or third tier FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Yaaaaas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I'd do it, Clowney is a perfect fit for this D and could make it special. I don't think Houston would take less, I mean they could just keep him for the year, let him walk, and then get a high comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 So much roster turn over I would want to see what we have now and go after biggest needs in 2020. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 cbs writer says trade a first and a lawson, what a clown. logical, ha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: I'd do it, Clowney is a perfect fit for this D and could make it special. I don't think Houston would take less, I mean they could just keep him for the year, let him walk, and then get a high comp pick. The highest comp pick they could get is a 3rd, and it would be for 2021. So even a 2020 2nd is much more desirable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: The highest comp pick they could get is a 3rd, and it would be for 2021. So even a 2020 2nd is much more desirable. But is it worth not having Clowney in 2019? I mean they are in win-now mode, right? Watt isn't getting any younger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 A second makes sense to me with the Ford trade the benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, SWATeam said: But is it worth not having Clowney in 2019? I mean they are in win-now mode, right? Watt isn't getting any younger. They are trying to trade him, so I guess so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They are trying to trade him, so I guess so My point is, though, that it will probably be for a 1st rounder. Not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmd07 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 If they are trying to trade him it just seems like a big red flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, tomur67 said: John Breech of CBS Sports suggests that it would be a logical trade between the Texans and the Bills. The Bills would get Clowney, but give up its first round pick in 2020 and Lawson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I would be 100% against a trade like this and probably wouldn't even part with a 2nd. The 2020 draft is just that good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, SWATeam said: My point is, though, that it will probably be for a 1st rounder. Not less. I’m good with a first. I just don’t think there is much comparison with a 2021 comp pick either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said: A second makes sense to me with the Ford trade the benchmark. Maybe, but Clowney is 2 years younger and much better- IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfanmd07 said: If they are trying to trade him it just seems like a big red flag They don’t want to pay him. Happens all the time. They need to pay Watson and have giant contracts on Hopkins and Watt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 No way I give up a 1st 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I really want Clowney, but not for a 1st. Shaq and a 2 makes plenty of sense, provided we've already worked out an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I think it’s too risky to give up 1st round picks without knowing what we have in Josh Allen, and the entire offensive unit. If it was a sure thing that Allen and the O would take a big step forward this season, it might be worthwhile. But if things go the other way than this trade ends up being a big mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 A #1 is okay, Buffalo will be drafting #32 anyway 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Its a tough one. The Bills are at least IMO a 8-9 win team which puts them in the late teens and upper 20's draft wise. So the real question I guess should be would you give up the 18th-20th pick next year and Lawson this year for Clowney this year.? Clowneys not my first choice but we need a pass rusher and I have to admit that him and Hughes on the edges with Star and Oliver in the middle is very appealing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I would not give anything but a 6th 2020, possible conditional 5th. The Texans may take it as the cost of buying cap space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Clowney would have to agree to an extension before I made the deal. And I’d have no problem trading next year’s first. Would people really pass up Jadeveon Clowney if he was sitting there when it’s our turn to pick? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I think it’s too risky to give up 1st round picks without knowing what we have in Josh Allen, and the entire offensive unit. If it was a sure thing that Allen and the O would take a big step forward this season, it might be worthwhile. But if things go the other way than this trade ends up being a big mistake. sorry, but no way this offense does not take a step forward, they will certainly take a step forward. that said, I still would not give up a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Lawson and a 2nd works for me assuming an extension is worked out. I don’t see it happening but would be fine with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) I would do it for a 2nd+Shaq, but the money scares me Edited May 10, 2019 by Mrbojanglezs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: sorry, but no way this offense does not take a step forward, they will certainly take a step forward. that said, I still would not give up a first. I think there is a chance Allen plays at the same level or regresses, which would really limit the offensive unit and most likely lead to marginally improved performance despite the additions. Obviously, hoping that isn’t the case but it needs to be considered when analyzing the risk of making bold moves like trading next year’s high picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I would do it for a 2nd+Shaq, but the money scares me The Bills have strategically put themselves in the position to pay these types of players if they want to. They have one big time contract on the books - Morse. They have only one coming up - Tre White. QB on year 2 of rookie contract. This is when you make these deals. They could have no vet Pass rushers under contract next year. Clowney is in his prime.Contending teams have several blue chip players who are vets and they are $$. Edited May 10, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Buddy Hix said: I think there is a chance Allen plays at the same level or regresses, which would really limit the offensive unit and most likely lead to marginally improved performance despite the additions. Obviously, hoping that isn’t the case but it needs to be considered when analyzing the risk of making bold moves like trading next year’s high picks. Fair point but I see no scenario where we would be using our 1st next year on a QB. Even if Allen is not the guy, we probably won't no for at least another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I think there is a chance Allen plays at the same level or regresses, which would really limit the offensive unit and most likely lead to marginally improved performance despite the additions. Obviously, hoping that isn’t the case but it needs to be considered when analyzing the risk of making bold moves like trading next year’s high picks. totally disagree but you're entitled to your own opinion. enjoy the season. Edited May 10, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, SWATeam said: My point is, though, that it will probably be for a 1st rounder. Not less. Be tough to get a first rounder for him. Last year of contract. He’s basically a rental player who will want mega bucks. No thanks. I kind of like keeping out firsts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Why would they want Lawson? 6 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I think there is a chance Allen plays at the same level or regresses, which would really limit the offensive unit and most likely lead to marginally improved performance despite the additions. Obviously, hoping that isn’t the case but it needs to be considered when analyzing the risk of making bold moves like trading next year’s high picks. or improves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, nucci said: Why would they want Lawson? To play DE after Clowney leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bills have strategically put themselves in the position to pay these types of players if they want to. They have one big time contract on the books - Morse. They have only one coming up - Tre White. QB on year 2 of rookie contract. This is when you make these deals. They could have no vet Pass rushers under contract next year. Clowney is in his prime.Contending teams have several blue chip players who are vets and they are $$. I get it, the time to pay a guy like this is now with Allen's contract. But it would be probably pretty close to Frank Clark's 5 yr(s) / $104M / 62M guaranteed deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, nucci said: Why would they want Lawson? cheap contract, decent player, buys them time to get a replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, billsfanmd07 said: If they are trying to trade him it just seems like a big red flag yea, this was my first thought.. But i will say , probably for the first time as a die hard fan of this team , i completely trust and will be optimistic towards any moves made by this front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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