“Tailgate Village”: New tailgating policy at New Era for bus/limo lot

[BillsMafia13]

Man im part of those drunk idiots but i've cleaned myself up over the years.  Love tailgaiting but some people are just getting stupid.  On the flip side the bills have sucked for so long fans are forced to drink to bear the pain/make getting smacked by the patriots livable.  The direction were going in gives me hope I wont have to get sauced to forget

[Punching Bag]

Yes the terrorists won not by damage done and people killed but changes made as a result and money diverted to "security".

[teef]

11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Two Fans Enter!

 

Beyond Tailgate Village!

 

 

waaaaaaalker.  waaaaaalker.

 

7 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

 

WHO RUN TAILGATE VILLAGE?

 

SAY LOUDER!!!

master blaster!

[Not at the table Karlos]

19 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Dont forget the completely sober law enforcement beating the hell out of people.

 

https://buffalonews.com/2018/12/03/editorial-a-deputy-and-a-department-out-of-control/

 

Hopefully you know how to read @Boatdrinks

The sheriffs and security at bills games are ridiculous. It’s crazy how many times they assault people already in handcuffs. 

[oldmanfan]

I loved the tailgating back in the day when I lived there, and went to games with my grad school buddies.  We'd hang out, have some beverages, but we never got blind drunk because we wanted to actually watch the game.  I don't think it is a requirement to be completely drunk to smash a table, you can get a buzz on without getting ridiculous.

 

As for those arguing you should have free will, that it is the man leaning on your, etc.  Unfortunately those same people many times would be the first ones to sue the organization if a loved one did something really dumb on their property and hurt themselves.  The Pegulas have a responsibility to provide a safe environment for all the patrons.

[MAJBobby]

Step one to a Down stow Stadium with limited tailgating 

[stuvian]

what do think sustained us during the Decade of Fail? It wasn't 7 - 9 football. Things have calmed down considerably at Bills games. There used to be fights constantly now you might see one. 

 

This is the Goodell PR machine trying to make things all smarmy for the advertisers in the face of declining attendance. When the corporate suits come in, the fun is sure to be heading for the exits . I guess our only recourse will be to park further from the stadium. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Feel a need to chime in on this as all it seems to be is misinformation and fear. No one is taking away tailgating. They are doing what COUNTLESS other stadiums around the country have done. They are designating an area and overseeing it. This happens at pretty much every college stadium and if you’ve ever been to a big time college experience it’s still a blast. People still get obnoxiously drunk. They just don’t end up fighting or jumping off a bus through a table. No one is taking your fun away. They are taking their liability away and are doing it in the best interest of those that can’t contain themselves.

 

Additionally, this is limited to those coming in a bus or limo. If you just can’t handle not being able to RKO someone through a table, park in the grass lot and drive yourself. 

[oldmanfan]

As to limited tailgating if they move downtown, my sister in law and nieces came in last year to watch the Bills-Colts game.  Downtown Indy has plenty of parking areas where one can tailgate, including one right next to the stadium that was designated a lot for Bills fans to party before the game.  We had a great time there, and I even did my first ever shot out of a bowling ball.  I am sure if the Bills build a downtown stadium there will be similar opportunities down town as they have in Indy.  These things grow organically.

[MAJBobby]

18 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

@Like A Mofo

 

what is confusing about what i said? 

 

The Pre game tailgating has been a central point to Bills games for 40+ years

 

fathers have given their sons the love for the Bills and passed down generations of traditions tailgating 

 

And Ed Oliver specifically mentioned table smashing and Bills mafia as to why he is excited to play here... our fans are passionate 

 

it has nothing to do with boozing unless you make it that.. it has to do with PASSION for the Bills

 

So you can’t show that PASSION without the Booz and table smashing and all those knucklehead acts?  

 

Fact is is they can’t grow up so Bills will force it. Thank them 

[formerlyofCtown]

58 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

The sheriffs and security at bills games are ridiculous. It’s crazy how many times they assault people already in handcuffs. 

Makes em feel tough.

15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

So you can’t show that PASSION without the Booz and table smashing and all those knucklehead acts?  

 

Fact is is they can’t grow up so Bills will force it. Thank them 

Yup because it has nothing to do with money.?

Edited May 2, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[MAJBobby]

18 hours ago, uticaclub said:

The "Tailgate Village" is the beginning of the end of the Buffalo Bills as we know it. The hardcore tailgating was part of our identity; now everyone will now be contained in some lame beer garden. I'm proud of the guys that set things on fire and bodyslam each other; it's part of being a Bills fan. Who hasn't jumped off a tailgate of a truck and smashing a table? Our team has been an absolute joke over the last 20 years, and our fans are the only thing worth talking about most years.  

I haven't jumped off a tailgate of a truck and smashed a table.  hmmmm

[formerlyofCtown]

20 hours ago, Capco said:

The law enforcement at the games are massive dbags, but when you're corralling thousands of drunk people (especially after a loss), things are bound to get hectic.  

 

If people want to see less cop beat downs, one way to do that is to curb the drunken, reckless behavior in the parking lots.  

 

I understand that won't stop butthead cops from being dbags though. 

 

Once we were walking to our cars when our buddy got into a pissing match with a sheriff deputy.  His brother goes to tap the cop on his back shoulder to ask what's going on, at which point the cop's partner body checks the brother against a fence, screaming "Don't you EVER put your hands on a LEO!"

Wheres Shady and his buddys when you need em.

7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I haven't jumped off a tailgate of a truck and smashed a table.  hmmmm

Wuss

[LeviF]

8 hours ago, MacGyver said:

That man is performing his antics on someone elses private property. He is only free to do those things in his own home, where he's liable. His attitude is the real problem here. He does not have the rights or freedoms to do that ***** on someone elses insurance. People like him need to grow up and be an adult at some point in their lives.

 

...He's also free to do those things if the private property owner allows it.  Hammer doesn't allow it and even posts signage and tosses people when they don't abide by it.  It's not like the property owner has no options when they open up (or, gasp, choose not to open up) their property for parking.

 

Do those guys still need to grow up?  Probably. 

 

Oh, and as far as all the hullabaloo about cops...how about you try to not get in a pissing match with a cop?  In my experience I've found that the best way of not having poor interactions with police are to not be a prick and to follow the law.  Results typically don't vary.

Edited May 2, 2019 by LeviF91

[Helpmenow]

2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I was at a game where a drunk died face down in a creek.

 

It happens.

 

 

Then the bills put up the perimeter fence to the lots on California. 

[MAJBobby]

10 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Makes em feel tough.

Yup because it has nothing to do with money.?

Of course it has to do with money.  the NFL IS A BUSINESS.

 

It also have to do with curbing the bad publicity

The Drunken Idiots

The Potential for Lawsuits.

3 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Wheres Shady and his buddys when you need em.

Wuss

Wuss????

 

Nah I prefer to use my brain cells

[Helpmenow]

Kids will be kids. We went to the 2-14 year games and watched the games.  Didn’t booze to watch Greg bell run.

[MAJBobby]

12 hours ago, uticaclub said:

The only people who are getting hurt are doing it to themselves. No one else is in danger. If a man wants drink 20 beers, slam a 5th of whiskey and then jump off of a truck bed onto a flaming folding table, he should have the freedom to do so. The Bills play in America and if you don't like it, take that commie bull#### elsewhere. ???

 

And then when he Breaks his neck promptly files a lawsuit against the Bills and the lot owner.  Your right it is America.

[formerlyofCtown]

8 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

 

WHO RUN TAILGATE VILLAGE?

 

SAY LOUDER!!!

Is that one of the Sheriffs deputies?

[Heitz]

12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Are there actually people who take a limo to the game? 

 

I did a couple years ago - but we had him drop us off at Hammer's.  We're Hammer's Lot people, not Limo Lot people ?

 

 

39 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Feel a need to chime in on this as all it seems to be is misinformation and fear. No one is taking away tailgating. They are doing what COUNTLESS other stadiums around the country have done. They are designating an area and overseeing it. This happens at pretty much every college stadium and if you’ve ever been to a big time college experience it’s still a blast. People still get obnoxiously drunk. They just don’t end up fighting or jumping off a bus through a table. No one is taking your fun away. They are taking their liability away and are doing it in the best interest of those that can’t contain themselves.

 

Additionally, this is limited to those coming in a bus or limo. If you just can’t handle not being able to RKO someone through a table, park in the grass lot and drive yourself. 

 

Kirb, I feel like you're not looking at this with enough of a conspiratorial lens.  Now, if you have any tinfoil in your kitchen, I can coach you through making a hat that will start you down the path where you'll understand this is a just a plan by The Man to take our money and eat our liquor!

[corta765]

44 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Feel a need to chime in on this as all it seems to be is misinformation and fear. No one is taking away tailgating. They are doing what COUNTLESS other stadiums around the country have done. They are designating an area and overseeing it. This happens at pretty much every college stadium and if you’ve ever been to a big time college experience it’s still a blast. People still get obnoxiously drunk. They just don’t end up fighting or jumping off a bus through a table. No one is taking your fun away. They are taking their liability away and are doing it in the best interest of those that can’t contain themselves.

 

Additionally, this is limited to those coming in a bus or limo. If you just can’t handle not being able to RKO someone through a table, park in the grass lot and drive yourself. 

 

That is where I am. People do not realize that had a person or two died in one of these table jumps the team may have just said screw it we are not opening the lots until 10 or 11 like a lot of teams. I do have a little fear that they eventually bring this into one of the regular parking lots as a money grab but overall the logic makes sense. My bigger question is if you can bring your own grill off a buss to cook your own food.

[wiseman3]

https://twitter.com/RyanMura/status/1123940199321473024?s=19

 

Gotta admit, this is Gold lol

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

That is where I am. People do not realize that had a person or two died in one of these table jumps the team may have just said screw it we are not opening the lots until 10 or 11 like a lot of teams. I do have a little fear that they eventually bring this into one of the regular parking lots as a money grab but overall the logic makes sense. My bigger question is if you can bring your own grill off a buss to cook your own food.

The Jeremy White Q&A this morning said yes you can. I think that this is a decent explanation of the do’s and dont’s. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/bills-bus-lot-q

[May Day 10]

I think there is middle ground between promoting safety, and forcing fans to lease "linens" and tailgate chairs they dont need for $600.

[stony]

19 hours ago, youngjebrey said:

I don’t know why the table smashing gets such a negative connotation. I can think of a lot worse cultural traditions. Running of the bulls in Spain comes to mind. 

I see where you're going with this, but...actually, I don't see where you're going with this.  

[corta765]

13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The Jeremy White Q&A this morning said yes you can. I think that this is a decent explanation of the do’s and dont’s. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/bills-bus-lot-q

 

With that then it really isn't the worst thing ever. The ability to bring your own food and drink is probably my biggest thing because its a major cost savings and we look forward to making food to share with others. But you gotta be able to heat some of it haha

[DC Grid]

This would sound a lot less BS, if it wasn't also a BIG money grab.  Come pay $15 per head after paying large bus / limo fees to drag your stuff over to a designated pen where we can regulate your behavior...oh is that stuff heavy you brought...don't worry, you can just buy from us at tailgate village for stadium prices.  

 

The bus / limo lot is a mess, but no one has to go there who doesn't want to.  If the issue is fans being too drunk in the stadium and ruining people's time, there's an easier solve, boot them out.  That's what they'll be doing at tailgate village anyways, using extra security and booting out over the top drunks.

 

 

[stony]

30 minutes ago, DC Grid said:

This would sound a lot less BS, if it wasn't also a BIG money grab.  Come pay $15 per head after paying large bus / limo fees to drag your stuff over to a designated pen where we can regulate your behavior...oh is that stuff heavy you brought...don't worry, you can just buy from us at tailgate village for stadium prices.  

 

The bus / limo lot is a mess, but no one has to go there who doesn't want to.  If the issue is fans being too drunk in the stadium and ruining people's time, there's an easier solve, boot them out.  That's what they'll be doing at tailgate village anyways, using extra security and booting out over the top drunks.

 

 

I'd gladly pay $15 for someone to set up a tent and chairs.  If you're complaining about wheeling your cooler 80 yds, I can't help you.  

 

You are correct.  They can still go park in the Southwestern lot.  

[youngjebrey]

38 minutes ago, stony said:

I see where you're going with this, but...actually, I don't see where you're going with this.  

My point is I don’t know why table smashing at a tailgate gets such a negative connotation. I can think of a lot worse cultural traditions that are admired. Running of the bulls comes to mind. How many injuries do we see on the 4th of July of dudes blowing off their fingers? If you wanna police the drunk people fighting and causing mayhem, go right ahead. But for the most part I don’t see the problem in taking part in something that’s become a tradition 

[RaoulDuke79]

This is just as much about revenue is it is about safety. 

[Kirby Jackson]

40 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

With that then it really isn't the worst thing ever. The ability to bring your own food and drink is probably my biggest thing because its a major cost savings and we look forward to making food to share with others. But you gotta be able to heat some of it haha

Yeah, it doesn’t sound that bad to me.

[Golden*Wheels]

14 minutes ago, youngjebrey said:

My point is I don’t know why table smashing at a tailgate gets such a negative connotation. I can think of a lot worse cultural traditions that are admired. Running of the bulls comes to mind. How many injuries do we see on the 4th of July of dudes blowing off their fingers? If you wanna police the drunk people fighting and causing mayhem, go right ahead. But for the most part I don’t see the problem in taking part in something that’s become a tradition 

 

Probably because like running with the bulls or holding a firecracker so long it blows up in your hand (often involving alcohol) jumping through a table is just a dumbass thing to do. I don't know that it being lesser by degree or comparison to another dumb thing makes a difference. It's just stupid*.

 

*Said by a guy who did tons of stupid ***** when he was younger, and still occasionally does. But come on. Some stuff in the Bills lot is about what I would expect to see at an ICP wrestling event.

 

 

[ricko1112]

Why do people take party buses to football games and arrive hours early is to get plastered. Then they go into the stadium hammered, puking, and wanting to fight. Some even bring little pink effigies of Roger Goodell and toss them onto the field. How is that fun for anyone who has to sit around these bozos? Yes, it seems to be far more common in Buffalo, but certainly happens everywhere.

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, DC Grid said:

This would sound a lot less BS, if it wasn't also a BIG money grab.  Come pay $15 per head after paying large bus / limo fees to drag your stuff over to a designated pen where we can regulate your behavior...oh is that stuff heavy you brought...don't worry, you can just buy from us at tailgate village for stadium prices.  

 

The bus / limo lot is a mess, but no one has to go there who doesn't want to.  If the issue is fans being too drunk in the stadium and ruining people's time, there's an easier solve, boot them out.  That's what they'll be doing at tailgate village anyways, using extra security and booting out over the top drunks.

 

 

The primary concern is that you no longer have a choice. Whenever you tell someone, they HAVE to do something different; there will be resistance. The ”Tailgate Village” sounds like a very reasonable option, but there's no reason you should have to go there if you and 50 for your friends from Syracuse took a bus to the game. Everyone is okay with this being an option, but you should also have the opportunity to tailgate in the bus lot, and by doing so you can waive any liability or responsibility for actions that take place there, since there is now a state run option

[Heitz]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

I think there is middle ground between promoting safety, and forcing fans to lease "linens" and tailgate chairs they dont need for $600.

 

And this is probably it?  $15 ain't $600.  ?

 

Also, the REAL thing we should all be bitching about is that we didn't start the business that is running this:  http://tailgateguys.com.  They're crushing it...

 

 

[oldmanfan]

23 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

The primary concern is that you no longer have a choice. Whenever you tell someone, they HAVE to do something different; there will be resistance. The ”Tailgate Village” sounds like a very reasonable option, but there's no reason you should have to go there if you and 50 for your friends from Syracuse took a bus to the game. Everyone is okay with this being an option, but you should also have the opportunity to tailgate in the bus lot, and by doing so you can waive any liability or responsibility for actions that take place there, since there is now a state run option

I have had to have waivers signed for different events, and I am told that from a legal perspective they are not worth the paper they are printed on.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

23 hours ago, boater said:

Not sure if the Buffalo News link is buried above.

Terry and Kim  had to do something. The Bills were getting deserved bad publicity. They had to do something to show they actively managing the game day environment-game day experience is a huge priority for the league.

 

I think from the liability perspective, this is spot on

 

23 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Dude it was all over the news. 

The truth is as long as they arent hurting others then what they do is none of yours, the Pegulas or the governments business.

 

The truth is, until you persuade all the lawyers and the legal system of your "truth", businessmen and businesses must consider their liability exposure.  That's just the way it is and has been for a long time.

 

[inkman]

22 hours ago, teef said:

Maybe a tailgate village fight club?!

The first rule of tailgate village fight club is YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT TAILGATE VILLAGE FIGHT CLUB. 

[cd1]

15 hours ago, uticaclub said:

The only people who are getting hurt are doing it to themselves. No one else is in danger. If a man wants drink 20 beers, slam a 5th of whiskey and then jump off of a truck bed onto a flaming folding table, he should have the freedom to do so.

 

NO ONE is saying they can't do such things! 

 

They just can't do it on BILLS/ERIE COUNTY PROPERTY.

Edited May 2, 2019 by cd1

[plenzmd1]

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Heitz said:

 

I did a couple years ago - but we had him drop us off at Hammer's.  We're Hammer's Lot people, not Limo Lot people ?

 

 

 

 

You, and your crew..in a limo..aint buying it, stop the fibbing!

2 hours ago, corta765 said:

 

That is where I am. People do not realize that had a person or two died in one of these table jumps the team may have just said screw it we are not opening the lots until 10 or 11 like a lot of teams. I do have a little fear that they eventually bring this into one of the regular parking lots as a money grab but overall the logic makes sense. My bigger question is if you can bring your own grill off a buss to cook your own food.

As mentioned, yes you can bring your own, and yes they will even have people there to help you schlep the stuff to the designated area..but not back to the bus. 

1 hour ago, youngjebrey said:

My point is I don’t know why table smashing at a tailgate gets such a negative connotation. I can think of a lot worse cultural traditions that are admired. Running of the bulls comes to mind. How many injuries do we see on the 4th of July of dudes blowing off their fingers? If you wanna police the drunk people fighting and causing mayhem, go right ahead. But for the most part I don’t see the problem in taking part in something that’s become a tradition 

Dude, i am 56, and could not agree with you more. What is the major freaking issue with table slamming? I find it funny as hell. Now, the whole jumping onto a lit one i dont understand, but the rest I find so funny.

 

BTW prolly another thread....but i now have multiple people ask me for every game..hey man, when can i come up for a Bills game, they look awesome and heard your fans are the best. That NEVER happened pre #mafia...

 

and in case no one has noticed, fans have taken the " we party and have fun and want everyone to know that" to heart..and it is now a source of pride..bad behavior towards opposing fan, etc way down since the #Billsmafia ..and its awesome!