whatdrought Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I think they'll play around with the lineup and definitely add some more pieces, but from what I have read I would not be shocked to see him at LT sometime in the near future. At very least this is flexibility in case Dion can't get back to form after a meh year. We're essentially paying a starting LT (or at least one that could be) a swing tackle salary. I love it. Also, the argument "he's never been a starter" or "he's always been passed over" is one of the silliest arguments in the NFL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I'd have put that money towards Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, TOboy said: I think one of the benefits of this deal is it gives us flexibility. We could add another G or T in FA or the draft, whatever the best option that comes up. Yeah - look at NE's constantly evolving offensive line, lot of flex on that crew. Crazy that they lose solder - draft his replacement (and netted a pick in the 3rd round in the 2019 draft) and then some random guy steps up and they win the super bowl. Now the random guy cashes in and now they probably get a 2021 3rd rounder. And still have the 1st round pick from 2018 ready to step in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, rodneykm said: I'd have put that money towards Williams. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Nsekhe not only provides the Bills a quality lineman, it gives them great flexibility in the draft. He can play well at LT, RT, and both guard spots. If they draft starting level guys, he'll be an elite backup. If they don't, he can be a more than capable starter for a couple years. Win-win. You can't find a soul out there with a bad thing to say about this dude's play on the field. Redskins fans and writers love him and didn't want to lose him. The analytics crowd call him better than half the starting tackles in the NFL. Love it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, JOSH ALLEN IS GOAT said: This signing tells me the bills are drafting an offensive lineman Greg little or Jonah Williams probaly OR maybe a David Edward's from Wisconsin in the 3rd . He's a converted TE but is a mualer just needs a 1yr or 2 of development. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevnallen Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Looks like starting money... My opinion is that the signing of Nsekhe, like some of the other FA signings, gives the Bills the opportunity to select the best player the fits their needs (OL, DL, WR, TE) without having a glaring hole. Morse is a solid starter. Both WRs are potential starters, but neither is a star #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, thebandit27 said: Why? He's more proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 So wondering if OBD is thinking of starting Oline that looks like this: Nsekhe LT - Long LG - Morse C - Teller RG - Dawkins RT Long and Nsekhe played together in DC. Long played well at LG for Jets last year when moved from C. Teller and Dawkins swap sides where they will still have chemistry. Nsekhe, Long and Morse are way more athletic, stronger and meaner than Ducasse/ Miller Groy,/Bodine and Mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, rodneykm said: He's more proven. Well, he had one all-pro season, but he's only been a full-time starter for 2. He's also coming off a bad knee injury. Nsekhe, on the other hand, is a low-mileage 34 years old--only 16 starts since 2013. His level of play has been quite high when called upon. For the difference in dollars, I think this signing makes a ton of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said: Looks like a stud in the video vs clowney Yup u see Clowney hit the floor a good 7-8 times. On the 2nd play he pancakes him hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I said it in another thread, he is 33 but don’t be caught off guard by that. He floated around the league for years in and out of the NFL and Practice squads so there isn’t a lot of tread on the tires. He can play Tackle or Guard. I think he is the starting RT. Was stuck behind Trent Williams and Morgan Moses but when he did play at Tackle and Guard he was very highly graded. This is is a sound pickup. yep, i saw u mention him in that thread yesterday. Props to u for bringing him up as a guy we could target, where nobody else thought he'd be an option. From what I've seen of him he looks like a diamond in the rough. 6'8" of rough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Left Tackle ? https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1105536249069215745 wow, what if he was really good enough to push dion to the right? they could conceivably draft wisner and maybe lindstrom. i'm impressed so far fo sho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, scribo said: The purpose of this signing is simple: Ensure the Bills can draft the best player available. No glaring needs in April means we can fully benefit from other teams' reaches. Exactly. When the Bills are on the clock at #9, they can trade down or draft whatever position they think gives them the best value: offensive tackle, tight end, wide receiver, defensive tackle, edge, linebacker-whatever. There's no position where they will have to face the prospect of starting a scrub if they don't draft a guy high. If they draft an offensive tackle, and he beats out Nsekhe or Dawkins, so be it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Holy crap that's awful. Oh my. I'm not usually an overreaction guy, but this is a league minimum guy imo. Maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong too but I saw somewhere he graded our higher than any of our O-linemen. I aint mad about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I feel like right now it’s a trade down to the teens/Jonah Williams or TJ Hockenson. If stay put, a DL BPA, Oliver or Wilkins I'm happy with either scenario. A beast for the defense or gain an additional second rounder and grab a guy like Hockenson. Actually I would love that second option. I trust McDermott to get the most out of the defense without adding any 'big' names this year, and I'm getting greedy for more offense right now as I want Allen to have as many weapons around him as possible. I'd love it if we bombed some teams off the field this year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, wppete said: Easy guy to root for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, billsredneck1 said: wow, what if he was really good enough to push dion to the right? they could conceivably draft wisner and maybe lindstrom. i'm impressed so far fo sho. You don't want Dawkins on the right--he struggles moving that direction. If Dawkins moves, it should be to LG. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, rodneykm said: He's more proven. You know the only OTs on this team right now are McDermott and Dawkins. They need a swing and that is what this is. Versatility all over and when details are out is nothing more than a 1 year deal watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Wonder if they plan on putting him at LT and moving Dawkins to LG or RT I think moving Dawkins to RT would be a mistake...... Just leave Dawkins at LT......and bring in this huge man for RT......and if he ends up just being the swing guy at multiple positions so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 LEAVE DAWKINS ALONE. Want him him to get back to Form PUT A LEGIT LG next to him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technobot Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Getting way ahead of myself but 2019 is like the anti-2018. Yes, having a metric ton of cap room is key but contrast the praise being lavished on Nshekhe and with the reactions from signing Newhouse or Bodine last year. Won't even pretend this guy was on my radar, but the feedback from NFL pundits/fans is positive. FO had a plan and are executing. They chased one "premium" name, and I have no qualms with giving a well-regarded, starting center a large contract. Smart moves with the receivers, and Nsekhe is icing on the cake. Agree with the sentiment it gives us total flexibility in the draft: draft Best Stud Available, or trade back and accumulate picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: LEAVE DAWKINS ALONE. Want him him to get back to Form PUT A LEGIT LG next to him. On it boss! Saffold or Lindstrom please!!! Edited March 12, 2019 by TOboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Wow at his pass-blocking vs Clowney, what an animal. That's against a premier NFL DE. I hate to say it, but even his average plays in that game are better than anything I've seen from Dawkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technobot Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: LEAVE DAWKINS ALONE. Want him him to get back to Form PUT A LEGIT LG next to him. Agree, I want to see DD renewed and reinvigorated this year, playing alongside quality lineman. Let's judge him after that, last year was a tire fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I am not saying this is what the Bills will do but what if they played him at guard? Dawkins-Nsekhe-Morse-Long- (maybe Williams?) all the reports say he has played at LG as well as LT Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Starr Almighty said: I am not saying this is what the Bills will do but what if they played him at guard? Dawkins-Nsekhe-Morse-Long- (maybe Williams?) all the reports say he has played at LG as well as LT Just a thought I like Nsekhe a LOT better at OT then I do at guard. He's just a bit long and segmented to play guard. Don't get me wrong, he can do it in a pinch, but this guy's a tackle through and through. Wait until @Blokestradamus finds out about this...you guys think I'm happy... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Seems like he'll be a top 5 lineman on our team and will be able to any position except center. Good signing to keep teams guessing on our draft strategy. Even if we get d williams there will be room for him somewhere along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 While we may well still improve with an additional signing or draft pick, at this moment in time, we have enough extra bodies to field a new, and much improved O-Line. I could see Dawkins moved to RT, and Nsekhe at LT, or vice versa. Morse at Center and Long and Teller at Guard. The line is already, by the looks of it, significantly upgraded, and we shouldn't be done yet. Nsekhe looks like the type of move switched on FOs make, and get right. The tape against Clowney is very impressive, and I can't remember the last time a Bills tackle played that well in one game against a premier rusher. (It was probably Jason Peters, if truth be told) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I like everything about this signing. The last guy we had on our roster that played in the AFL, turned out to be pretty good too. Versatile, smart, could be a mentor for a rookie. Solid signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Interesting signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Well, he had one all-pro season, but he's only been a full-time starter for 2. He's also coming off a bad knee injury. Nsekhe, on the other hand, is a low-mileage 34 years old--only 16 starts since 2013. His level of play has been quite high when called upon. For the difference in dollars, I think this signing makes a ton of sense. I live in Redskin territory. This low profile player was highly regarded within the organization. As you and others have pointed out what makes him even more valuable is his versatility. When he replaced the injured all-pro LT, Trent Williams, the offense and line didn't miss a beat. The Redskins knew that any team that made him a respectable offer that they were not in a cap position to retain him. They didn't want to lose him. For the most part I like the way our front office has handled this free agent market. They haven't gotten caught up splurging for the glitz but instead have made good value picks. The Beasley and the other two OL acquisitions should put our young qb in a good position to succeed. I'm still perplexed by the Gore pickup but I'm not going to quibble when overall I am pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 LOVE this signing! He was labeled a major value add in FA, a bargain. He was a guy I was hoping for if we didn't land one of the other Tackles. I am loving our Free Agency overall. Very good spending so far, getting value while others over pay massively for questionable signings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjt328 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 My guess is that Daryl Williams is pricing himself out of the market for us. Ju'Wuan James was considered by most to be the #2 Right Tackle available (with Williams #1). He signed for $13 million per year, which is Top 10 Left Tackle money. Williams is going to want at least the same amount, if not more. Beane is playing the free agent game right. He's being aggressive and active, but not drastically overpaying. He's improving the roster, creating competition and opening up his options in the draft - but not overburdening the cap for future years. At the end of the day, I think this makes us more balanced across the board, with much better depth in case of injury. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Waaaay early for this but What if this guy is a good LT? Dawkins to LG? Ty - LT Dawkins - LG Morse - C Long - RG CODY FORD - RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Is this more fun than Christmas morning??? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think they'll play around with the lineup and definitely add some more pieces, but from what I have read I would not be shocked to see him at LT sometime in the near future. At very least this is flexibility in case Dion can't get back to form after a meh year. We're essentially paying a starting LT (or at least one that could be) a swing tackle salary. I love it. Also, the argument "he's never been a starter" or "he's always been passed over" is one of the silliest arguments in the NFL. Let's just hope that Dawkins comes in ready to go and get bk to form and even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I am not saying this is what the Bills will do but what if they played him at guard? Dawkins-Nsekhe-Morse-Long- (maybe Williams?) all the reports say he has played at LG as well as LT Just a thought Depends on the draft I guess. If we take OT at 9, it could go Dawkins-Nsekhe-Morse-Long/Teller-Rookie. If we go Defense at 9, and pick up Lindstrom in the 2nd, it could look like Dawkins- Lindstrom-Morse-Long/Teller-Nsehke. Either way, its gonna be a huge upgrade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Augie said: Is this more fun than Christmas morning??? Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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