BillsFan4 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I’d be interested in signing him, but I don’t know if I’d do it for $18+M per year. He’s good, but IMO he hasn’t shown to be in that elite, huge money pass rusher category. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said: I hope they can pull this off. I think Flowers would be a great addition. Said no one in the year 2000 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Can he play O-line? No but he doesn’t play another position that Buffalo was poor at last season Edited March 11, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Normally I agree that OBD has been air tight but Josina seems to get some real info I'm sure the Bills have had internal discussions about every free agent and more. This isn't exactly a scoop. Edited March 11, 2019 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 ‘Monster Deal’, Indeed. ? Flowers is just going to announce an energy drink endorsement, or he’s signed on to rep for FTD. With his last name, he’s a natural for the florist gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I dont understand why we would get rid of Jerry.......book end DE's is a good thing? He's 31, on the last year of his contract and is the 2nd highest paid, I guess we could absorb that contract for a year perhaps but the more likely scenario would be to cut Hughes since they signed Murphy to a fairly big FA deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I'd guess that would be the end of jerry Hughes if we signed Flowers since he's 31 and owns the 2nd highest cap hit. I think Murphy would be more likely to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Flowers is best free agent available. It seems to me that FA is heavy on D- spend a good chunk of cap on flowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think Murphy would be more likely to go Not a chance, you just signed a FA last season to come here and let him go, how would any FA want to come here after that? Just my opinion and was stated by Rodak also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Not a chance, you just signed a FA last season to come here and let him go, how would any FA want to come here after that? Just my opinion and was stated by Rodak also. They will keep the best player imo. I don’t really get your point about just signing him last year. It’s all performance based. He will get any money that was guaranteed to him. All FAs know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Not a chance, you just signed a FA last season to come here and let him go, how would any FA want to come here after that? Just my opinion and was stated by Rodak also. Well, Rodak is wrong. Players LOVE being on the open market--it gives them a chance to pocket more guaranteed money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Well, Rodak is wrong. Players LOVE being on the open market--it gives them a chance to pocket more guaranteed money. You don'tr sign a FA and then release him the year after, if it's true that it's tougher to get FA to come here then I'd say cutting a FA after 1 season would make it even more difficult per me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: He's 31, on the last year of his contract and is the 2nd highest paid, I guess we could absorb that contract for a year perhaps but the more likely scenario would be to cut Hughes since they signed Murphy to a fairly big FA deal. Hughes is also a pressure-monster and the Bills have loads of cap room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Doc said: Hughes is also a pressure-monster and the Bills have loads of cap room. Not saying they have to but 18M per Flowers , 10.4 per Hughes and 8.4 per Murphy, that is a ton of money tied up there but Hughes does come off the books if not resigned the following year so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: You don'tr sign a FA and then release him the year after, if it's true that it's tougher to get FA to come here then I'd say cutting a FA after 1 season would make it even more difficult per me . It really all depends upon the deal that the guy signed. Even if it's technically a 3-year deal, it could be structured with so little guaranteed money that the player and his agent know they'll be back on the market quickly. Murphy's deal is like that: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/trent-murphy-14456/ Only $7.9M guaranteed, and over 50% of that came in the first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Said no one in the year 2000 ? Still makes me angry over that waste of a pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Josina Anderson is fairly tied into the Bills' organization. Her and Alex Marvez seem to be 100% when they report Bills' news. She is from North Carolina. ? Not that that means anything. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Not saying they have to but 18M per Flowers , 10.4 per Hughes and 8.4 per Murphy, that is a ton of money tied up there but Hughes does come off the books if not resigned the following year so who knows. Murphy would obviously be the odd man out. Assuming they don't approach him about a pay cut (which they should do anyway even if they don't sign anyone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: Murphy would obviously be the odd man out. Assuming they don't approach him about a pay cut (which they should do anyway even if they don't sign anyone). Just hope that he doesn’t injure himself signing that piece of paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 If the Bills were to sign Flowers, either Murphy or Lawson would be out this year and the other one out the year after. My guess is if Flowers is picked up, they'd keep Murphy around as a rotational guy and look to trade Shaq now while he still has some draft capital value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I don't mind the player, but at that type of money I'd much rather see a huge investment in the OL. If we feel we need a pass rusher we can use pick #9 on it, there should be several good options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: You can say that about every high priced guy. So now we are going to complain if they pay that price? cry when they don’t sign anyone... cry when they do cause it was too much money.. this is place is unbelievable sometimes OK, way to turn my post into a comparison against everyone else's opinions on this board. cry when they don't sign anyone... Please show me where I did this cry when they do cause it was too much money.. Again, please show where I did this SMH... yes indeed this place can be unbelievable..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: The Bills do not leak anything fake news? Most likely from agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Magox said: If the Bills were to sign Flowers, either Murphy or Lawson would be out this year and the other one out the year after. My guess is if Flowers is picked up, they'd keep Murphy around as a rotational guy and look to trade Shaq now while he still has some draft capital value. I don't feel that moving on from any of them is necessary. At least not until TC when you know who is healthy. Murphy has a high ceiling.......if he gets his burst back he has a great narrow frame to get small in traffic as a rusher and the long arms to reach the football and force fumbles. Lotulelei is kind of a bum whose next step could be off the cliff entirely and neither of the Phillips has strung together one good full season yet so having already cross trained Shaq to play some DT it makes sense to hold him unless the draft capital is right(which it won't be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 At least it’s not Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Are the Bills still internally discussing him? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: At least it’s not Miami Or the Jests . Man he's the only defender I really wanted though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reed83HOF Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Are the Bills still internally discussing him? Wonder if beane is asleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Welp. There goes that. Time to sit around the table and have internal discussions about other Free Agents. SLOW and steady wins the race! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Maybe next time they will go outside for the discussion... Might work better. Kidding aside, that's a pretty penny for him. Not sure I'd love that signing. Edited March 11, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Wonder if beane is asleep You know that thread is coming at some point lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, One Buffalo said: 2M per sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Welp. There goes that. Time to sit around the table and have internal discussions about other Free Agents. SLOW and steady wins the race! Don't worry. Big moves are coming from Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't feel that moving on from any of them is necessary. At least not until TC when you know who is healthy. Murphy has a high ceiling.......if he gets his burst back he has a great narrow frame to get small in traffic as a rusher and the long arms to reach the football and force fumbles. Lotulelei is kind of a bum whose next step could be off the cliff entirely and neither of the Phillips has strung together one good full season yet so having already cross trained Shaq to play some DT it makes sense to hold him unless the draft capital is right(which it won't be). I see that side of it as well and I do agree that it would be likely that at least one of the players would remain for 2019. But from observing Beane, if they were to land an upper tier DE like Flowers and having over $8M on the books for Murphy and having to shell out another $10.5M for Hughes and $10M for Shaq plus and possibly most importantly they would lose draft capital by not trading Shaq at this time, I think it's probably likely that Shaq goes. On the other hand they may just would want to retain all 4 of them for this upcoming season and see if either Shaq or Murphy emerges from the level of play they have been playing. Shaq is an ok player and has progressively gotten better and as you stated Murphy is intriguing with his long reach. If he could stay healthy he could find his groove and put up a solid season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, TheTruthHurts said: Don't worry. Big moves are coming from Buffalo. #FrankGore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: There goes that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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