NewEra Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Clark will make our D elite on its own...we should get him and swapping firsts is the least expensive way to do it. Swap firsts and send one of our 5th round picks. We now have #21, #40, #74, and both 4th rounders still. Trade up from our 2nd to get back into the first...say Raiders at 27 giving them #40 and a 2020 3rd (or use our 2020 2nd instead if we want to trade a bit higher to get someone they covet) Then trade up again from our 3rd and get back into the 2nd. Trade 70, 112, and our other 5th to get back to mid 2nd round pick range We now have picks at 21, 27, and a mid 2nd rounder #21 - Draft Hockenson/Fant #27 - Draft DT Simmons/Tillery Mid 2nd - Draft WR Butler/Harry/Brown (or could go OL or RB) Bills emerge with an Elite NFL DE in Clark, add elite TE prospect, one of the top DT prospects, and a high potential WR (or RB/OL). Thats a home run IMO. And better than staying put and taking Oliver at 9. And a lot easier said than done. Credit to the thought process. Making it happen is another story 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Seahawks doesn't have a 2nd this year. The only got a 1,3.4.5. ...help me out CB.......so you trade a 2nd for him...what is his salary/contract length in Bflo if he doesn't sign the tender pre-trade?....or...does he sign the tender pre-trade and we're on the hook for a one year rental at $17+ mil?.....what is our financial obligation post trade?...thanks bud.... Edited April 11, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, NewEra said: And a lot easier said than done. Credit to the thought process. Making it happen is another story Thanks and certainly agree with that, it always takes two to tango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...help me out CB.......so you trade a 2nd for him...what is his salary/contract length in Bflo if he doesn't sign the tender pre-trade?....or...does he sign the tender pre-trade and we're on the hook for a one year rental at $17+ mil?.....what is our financial obligation post trade?...thanks bud.... Well technically as I see it there are 3 ways it could go being he is on a Non-exclusive Tag. 1. Bills "steal" him away with a new worked out contract and give Seattle 2 1st round picks. Not Going To Happen. 2. Seattle trades his current Tag to us. So Bills have a 1 year rental for 17 million and have to work out a deal or he is a FA next year. I doubt extremely that Beane would do this. 3. The Bills do the trade with Seattle for "whatever" with Clark signing a new contract with the Bills. What would likely happen. Lots of people saying 20 million per. That would remain to be seen. Once again the guaranteed money is always the big thing. FWIW, Spotrac has his Market Worth at 16 million per year on a 4 year contract, I would think probably too low. Clark is free to talk to the Bills about a contract under the non-exclusive tag at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 19 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: How old is the second tweet? Because didn’t Dee Ford already change teams weeks ago? This is like when my mom posts on Facebook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Has there been any actual credible buzz, news, murmurs about a potential Clark to Bills trade in the last 48 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Has there been any actual credible buzz, news, murmurs about a potential Clark to Bills trade in the last 48 hours? No....... And I know everything. ? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 yes please, better than any other DE available by a country mile. Trade this year's 2nd and get it done, then go OT, WR or TE in round 1 IMO. BPA from then on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
******* Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 There’s some chatter on the league grapevine tonight about a possible Frank Clark trade FYI. -per profootballtalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, ******* said: There’s some chatter on the league grapevine tonight about a possible Frank Clark trade FYI. -per profootballtalk Covering all their bases, it seems. This morning: Report: Frank Clark Trade Talk Has Died Down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 One reason to look forward to a Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Hoping a swap of picks and possible a 3 or 4 will do it. Would absolutely love Clark in Buffalo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Man, I really hope we get this guy....come on Beane! Work your voodoo magic!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Be great if it was the Raiders. Trade Cooper for a 1st Trade Mack for 2 1sts Trade a 3+5 for a head case like AB and give him $20M/year Trade a 1st for a domestic abuser like Clark and give him $20M/year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Be great if it was the Raiders. Trade Cooper for a 1st Trade Mack for 2 1sts Trade a 3+5 for a head case like AB and give him $20M/year Trade a 1st for a domestic abuser like Clark and give him $20M/year Whaaaa?!?! He’s a wife beater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Whaaaa?!?! He’s a wife beater? He got a DV charge in college due to a situation with his girlfriend and was kicked off the team. No trouble since then that's known of. But I can understand if people have questions about him bc of it. I would imagine Beane and McD would have vetted him if they traded for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I’d prefer that the Bills sign Ezekiel Ansah then draft Ed Oliver at 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I feel like something is going to happen tomorrow because the Seahawks need that cap room to give Russell Wilson what he wants. I hope it’s the Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Superhero said: I’d prefer that the Bills sign Ezekiel Ansah then draft Ed Oliver at 9 Clark is so much better than Ansah. It isn't even close. He's also much younger. You can still get a 3 Tech in other parts of the draft. I love Oliver, but I'd rather have Clark. Edited April 15, 2019 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Clark is so much better than Ansah. It isn't even close. He's also much younger. You can still get a 3 Tech in other parts of the draft. I love Oliver, but I'd rather have Clark. Well they could trade for Clark AND draft Oliver. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Is Clark really worth much more than Dee Ford (2nd in 2020)? send them next years second and one of the 4s from this year. Draft: Oliver Harmon and Sternberger. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, MJS said: Well they could trade for Clark AND draft Oliver. That would be the best case scenario! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Is Clark really worth much more than Dee Ford (2nd in 2020)? send them next years second and one of the 4s from this year. Draft: Oliver Harmon and Sternberger. Im not sure how much more he is worth, but to me he is the much better player. I don't know how to really quantify it in terms of draft compensation. I'd do a swap of firsts and a third and fourth, something like that. He's much more well rounded when it comes to rushing the passer and stopping the run. Ford is more of a pass rusher, but ironically Clark actually has more career sacks and 1 less year in the league. Clark is only 25 years old and has had three straight years of high level production, while Ford has had a very inconsistent career, while lining up opposite Tampa Hali and Justin Houston a on the same line with Chris Jones. Clark has been really good, and to me, he is just scratching the surface of what he is capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Is Clark really worth much more than Dee Ford (2nd in 2020)? Yes.. he is younger and better.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Wouldn't surprise me if the Bills and Seahawks do a deal, switch 1st rd picks +, and 5 yrs about 100 mil or thereabouts should get it done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 hours ago, MJS said: Well they could trade for Clark AND draft Oliver. Yes, Yes, Yes. This is my dream scenario. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, eball said: Yes, Yes, Yes. This is my dream scenario. Do you dream of rooting for an NFL team that scores 5 points per game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, mannc said: Do you dream of rooting for an NFL team that scores 5 points per game? My dream of a monster defense does not preclude the team from scoring points, good sir! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, eball said: My dream of a monster defense does not preclude the team from scoring points, good sir! Not sure why people don’t want all 3 phrases to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 How do we fulfill @MJS dream of Oliver and Clark? Trade the 2nd for Clark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, eball said: My dream of a monster defense does not preclude the team from scoring points, good sir! Well, it’s not going to happen by magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, mannc said: Do you dream of rooting for an NFL team that scores 5 points per game? I’m not sure what this has to do with anything. I assume you feel that drafting some offensive player instead of Oliver will jump the 5 points per game to 25? Edited April 15, 2019 by Jay_Fixit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, mannc said: Well, it’s not going to happen by magic. No, it’s not. It will happen with improved OL play, improved QB play, improved WR play and another year in the same offensive system. A truly elite defense can only help the offense, not hinder it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: How do we fulfill @MJS dream of Oliver and Clark? Trade the 2nd for Clark? I think in a perfect world trade a 2 for Clark. Maybe next years two also. If you do a swap of first round picks, you would have to find a way to trade back up to try and grab Oliver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Ansah would be a lot less expensive than Clark & the Bills would not have to give up anything to get Ansah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Superhero said: Ansah would be a lot less expensive than Clark & the Bills would not have to give up anything to get Ansah True, but he's also older and injured. Clark is the better player and younger. For me, it all depends on the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Superhero said: Ansah would be a lot less expensive than Clark & the Bills would not have to give up anything to get Ansah True, yet Ansah remains unsigned. Likely the injury concern isn’t worth his asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 After coming out for Clark months ago ) I still have hope that we acquire him, a benchmark trade cost was set by Cheifs and 49ers with dee Ford trade, a second and maybe a sweetener of a four is all it should cost ,I don’t want to give up a one next year unless it part of a trade that brings us josh Allen .now that would be a heck of a set of bookends !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I’m not sure what this has to do with anything. I assume you feel that drafting some offensive player instead of Oliver will jump the 5 points per game to 25? Are the Seahawks just going to give us Frank Clark for free? You’re talking about a historically bad offensive football team using all of its premium picks on defense. Yes, it’s great that Beane shored up the o-line, but as of right now, we have zero offensive playmakers—not a single guy that opposing defenses fear. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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