TheBeaneBandit Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: I'm listening now, he starts off by saying he talked to people over the weekend and learned a lot, wants to let us know what he's learned. He later says we should "brace (ourselves) for a Defensive Tackle at 9" and talks about Oliver and Wilkins, at the end of that part says "based on what I could gather, that's one of my takeaways." It's officially panic time for the Offense-Only Chicken Little Brigade Although I fully understand and endorse the DT possibility, an evil part of me wants it to happen solely for the purpose of ruining posters lives lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I know he said free agency, but two under the radar guys who could come available and would be great fits imo, Solomon Thomas of the 49ers and Trey Hendrickson of the Saints. Thomas is a bigger end that fits the McDermott mold. If the 49ers draft Joey Bosa, I think they move Thomas. The other guy Hendrickson is another bigger end who has been a part time player and will be losing more playing time to Marcus Davenport. Perhaps a reclamation project like Noah Spence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yeah, sounds like maybe Thomas Davis to OLB and LorAx to DE? I don't know, we'll see over the next couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I know he said free agency, but two under the radar guys who could come available and would be great fits imo, Solomon Thomas of the 49ers and Trey Hendrickson of the Saints. Thomas is a bigger end that fits the McDermott mold. If the 49ers draft Joey Bosa, I think they move Thomas. The other guy Hendrickson is another bigger end who has been a part time player and will be losing more playing time to Marcus Davenport. Perhaps a reclamation project like Noah Spence. Good thoughts - what do you think Thomas would cost? Former top five pick, no? And still young and on his rookie deal. Edited March 4, 2019 by Coach Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Although I fully understand and endorse the DT possibility, an evil part of me wants it to happen solely for the purpose of ruining posters lives lol I hear you man, I can see the hysterical whining rants now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I immediately thought of Anthony Barr. Glad some of you guys did too. He was wasted as a 4-3 LB. You check his tape from UCLA and I was in love. I'd love to see him as a 4-3 DE. I have a hard time believing that someone like Zimmer would waste someone on his defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The OP references Kony Ealy as a possibility but I doubt that because the Bills had a chance to claim him off waivers in 2017 (I think) and they passed. I dunno how "creative' they plan on getting but I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of trade go down given Beane's willingness to wheel and deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I am a fan of anything that gets Lorax more pass rush opportunities......he is very good at it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I'm guessing by creative he means a guy who can play multiple positions in a defense. Can stand up, can put his hand in the dirt, has experience getting after the QB at multiple positions. I would think that would mean a guy who can play DE/DT or a guy who can play LB/DE. That makes me think he is talking about Anthony Barr or Za'Darius Smith from the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, blacklabel said: The OP references Kony Ealy as a possibility but I doubt that because the Bills had a chance to claim him off waivers in 2017 (I think) and they passed. I dunno how "creative' they plan on getting but I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of trade go down given Beane's willingness to wheel and deal. Pretty sure we put in a claim but the Jets snagged him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Preston Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: Pretty sure we put in a claim but the Jets snagged him. No claim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, WMDman said: I could see it being Anthony Barr to replace Lorax as a LB/3rd down rusher The only bad thing about that happening would be opening up the vault,he's looking for a big pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, WMDman said: I could see it being Anthony Barr to replace Lorax as a LB/3rd down rusher That's my guess and it would be a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Good thoughts - what do you think Thomas would cost? Former top five pick, no? And still young and on his rookie deal. Carolina had him in for a pre-draft visit that year as well. I'm not sure what he would cost though. I feel like the Niners will take what they can get, as he has been a bust for them. The last time a trade like this went down, the Browns traded the #6 overall pick Barkevious Mingo, to the Patriots for a fifth round pick. The biggest difference there is that Mingo was traded after his third year. Another top ten bust, Derrick Harvey was held on to for too long and he wound up getting waived for nothing. Thomas has been that level of bust for the 49ers in his first two years and I think he'd be a better fit for our scheme. I'd throw them a 5th for sure. He's only 23 years old, going to be 24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: Carolina had him in for a pre-draft visit that year as well. I'm not sure what he would cost though. I feel like the Niners will take what they can get, as he has been a bust for them. The last time a trade like this went down, the Browns traded the #6 overall pick Barkevious Mingo, to the Patriots for a fifth round pick. The biggest difference there is that Mingo was traded after his third year. Another top ten bust, Derrick Harvey was held on to for too long and he wound up getting waived for nothing. Thomas has been that level of bust for the 49ers in his first two years and I think he'd be a better fit for our scheme. I'd throw them a 5th for sure. He's only 23 years old, going to be 24. He certainly knows Phillips - wonder if he helped recruit Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I thought Barr would make alot of sense. Versatile, athletic, still hasnt lived up to all his potential. Barr could be Alexander 2.0. Strong side LB in base defense edge defender in Nickle. Heck him and Edmunds in the middle of the feild on a passing down closes passing lanes too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I know he said free agency, but two under the radar guys who could come available and would be great fits imo, Solomon Thomas of the 49ers and Trey Hendrickson of the Saints. Thomas is a bigger end that fits the McDermott mold. If the 49ers draft Joey Bosa, I think they move Thomas. The other guy Hendrickson is another bigger end who has been a part time player and will be losing more playing time to Marcus Davenport. Perhaps a reclamation project like Noah Spence. So....Solomon Thomas was reportedly #1 on the Bills board in 2017 per Leroi. Anyone else remember this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: He certainly knows Phillips - wonder if he helped recruit Phillips. They are close. Former roommates actually! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So....Solomon Thomas was reportedly #1 on the Bills board in 2017 per Leroi. Anyone else remember this? I do. Completely different front office though. I wonder if the weight carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, purple haze said: Justin Houston? That was my initial thought but then I was thinking he’s too old to solve the issue there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I do. Completely different front office though. I wonder if the weight carries. McDermott was here though and I just feel like he was the final voice on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: McDermott was here though and I just feel like he was the final voice on the board He was also on the radar for the Panthers that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: He was also on the radar for the Panthers that year. I want to see those two boards next to each other. No doubt in my mind McD carried notes and scouting reports over. He didn’t trust Whaley’s group. Jmo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Like many others, I take this as the Bills looking for versatile players that can give them different rush packages.... as opposed to going after a pure DE like DeMarcus Lawrence or Robert Quinn. With Lorenzo Alexander getting near the end, I think the SLB is a sneaky need they could throw some good money at in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, BillsVet said: I have a hard time believing that someone like Zimmer would waste someone on his defense. It's why it's so puzzling. I can't think of another player who was a mismatch to play LB in that system. The ascension of Danielle Hunter probably made things more difficult for them. But I think he's a 3-4 pass rushing OLB but I think he can play 4-3 DE. 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Hahaha. I was the opposite. I was anyone but Barr in that top 10. I think his best fit is a pass rushing OLB in a 3-4. I'd be surprised if it were him they are thinking of but I do wonder if it means a guy who maybe isn't renowned at the moment as a pass rusher but who they think can have success there. Agree that his best position is 3-4 pass rushing OLB but I think he can play 4-3 DE for sure and at a high level. Edited March 4, 2019 by FeelingOnYouboty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: The only bad thing about that happening would be opening up the vault,he's looking for a big pay day. And he hasn't shown he should get major dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So....Solomon Thomas was reportedly #1 on the Bills board in 2017 per Leroi. Anyone else remember this? It seems as though Thomas is more effective inside than rushing on the edge. Maybe he can be our Kyle Williams replacement ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: He also says he thinks slot WR is a priority, whether it's Humphries or a day 2 pick, and they're comfortable with Levi Wallace at CB2. More fuel for my Zay will be traded and not on the roster week 1 thread hehehe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: I hear you man, I can see the hysterical whining rants now 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Although I fully understand and endorse the DT possibility, an evil part of me wants it to happen solely for the purpose of ruining posters lives lol Offense is by far the biggest deficiency, everyone can agree on that. However, we have more than our pick at #9, in fact we have 9 more picks plus Free Agency (and potential trades) to address offensive holes. So I don't think anyone is going to freak out if we took an elite prospect like Oliver at #9. Adding a guy to elevate our #2 defense from last year into a potentially elite defense with a guy like Oliver joining our other young talent like Edmunds and Tre as well as our vets like Hyde, Poyer, Hughes, Star, etc would be great. So not sure why some people think everyone will melt down if we went D with the 9th pick. Not sure how anyone would be mad at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: And he hasn't shown he should get major dollars. Agreed,that entire Vikings defense was nothing to write home about but I'll bet he'll get much more than 4/12 this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Offense is by far the biggest deficiency, everyone can agree on that. However, we have more than our pick at #9, in fact we have 9 more picks plus Free Agency (and potential trades) to address offensive holes. So I don't think anyone is going to freak out if we took an elite prospect like Oliver at #9. Adding a guy to elevate our #2 defense from last year into a potentially elite defense with a guy like Oliver joining our other young talent like Edmunds and Tre as well as our vets like Hyde, Poyer, Hughes, Star, etc would be great. So not sure why some people think everyone will melt down if we went D with the 9th pick. Not sure how anyone would be mad at that. Get ready broham, cause it's comin lol. For the record I don't see how myself but I'm telling you now more than a couple will flip around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I would love, love, LOVE if this meant Anthony Barr. I get the feeling McDermott would have the PERFECT way to use this guy to maximize his potential. He'd be Lorenzo Alexander, but in his prime. I really hope this happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: So....Solomon Thomas was reportedly #1 on the Bills board in 2017 per Leroi. Anyone else remember this? While I have more than a few pass rush evaluation skeletons in my cupboard I was one of the few just holding back the hype train on Solomon Thomas. There was talk that year about him being the #1 pick in the draft etc.... I thought he went 10-15 spots too early. That said I have interest at a cheap price as a reclamation project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, SWATeam said: The only thing I can think of is maybe they are planning on signing a MLB and moving Edmunds to edge? Wouldn't it be a better fit to move Edmunds to WLB rather than edge? Tremaine showed he was good in coverage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The report is Dallas and Lawerence were nowhere close. Would they tag him again? He would be one of the best defenders available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: That was my initial thought but then I was thinking he’s too old to solve the issue there. Maybe not. Only 30 and still playing well. No reason to believe he can't continue into the next few years, and in today's NFL that is the future. Once Allen's rookie deal is up everything gets recalibrated anyway. but I suspect, like many have said, it's Anthony Barr. And I'd be cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: While I have more than a few pass rush evaluation skeletons in my cupboard I was one of the few just holding back the hype train on Solomon Thomas. There was talk that year about him being the #1 pick in the draft etc.... I thought he went 10-15 spots too early. That said I have interest at a cheap price as a reclamation project. Yeah I think he was definitely over drafted and hasn't panned out for them. Probably more of a mid first round guy. He is similar to the types of guys McDermott has made use of in the past, Charles Johnson, Mario Addison, Wes Horton etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I don't know if he knows something or not...But Joe Buscaglia has been talking up Barr to Buffalo for some time now...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, Mat68 said: The report is Dallas and Lawerence were nowhere close. Would they tag him again? He would be one of the best defenders available. They did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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