Tipster19 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I ask this on the heels of Jay Glazer predicting the Giants trading him. At first one would think no way but after thinking about it it could be a possibility that would make sense for both franchises. I’m gonna list some bullet points. 1. Both GMs have a congenial relationship. 2. The Giants with 2 top ten 1st rd picks would allow them to draft their future franchise b whoever that may be. 3. It’s no secret that the Bills are in need for a big time WR and OBJ just might be the best in the game. 4. The Bills have the resources to cough up a contract of this magnitude. 5. There is plenty of OL in FA, probably our biggest need, available. 6. It’s not uncommon to find good OL in the 2nd rd and after. Matter of fact more times than not OL in the 1st rd usually turn out average at best. 7. Our defense is pretty good as of now but any added pieces can and will be addressed in FA and the draft. 8. OBJ just might be the straw that stirs the drink and makes everything else perform more efficiently. I’m sure that I’m gonna get destroyed over this but Beane has proven that he is not intimidated to make big time decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) It’s not crazy and I said during the season I thought there was a small chance OBJ could be traded this offseason. And if he is made available, good chance Beane at least calls to find out price IMO. I would prefer Brown over OBJ though. Brown is more reliable and mentally stable. But like I said above, if he really is available I would expect Beane would at least check on what Giants want for him. Rumors going around that Bell is going to Raiders and they are gonna trade for OBJ too. But rumors are just rumors Edited February 15, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Thats a tough one. I would probably want a 2nd or 3rd back due to the contract he wants but if they didnt budge I would probably do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I think OBJ would despise playing in a market like Buffalo. Hes a whiny brat in NYC, I'd be very fearful of his antics playing in Buffalo. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 OBJ is completely out of his mind and is ONLY a me first type player. Bad fit for Buffalo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: I ask this on the heels of Jay Glazer predicting the Giants trading him. At first one would think no way but after thinking about it it could be a possibility that would make sense for both franchises. I’m gonna list some bullet points. 1. Both GMs have a congenial relationship. 2. The Giants with 2 top ten 1st rd picks would allow them to draft their future franchise b whoever that may be. 3. It’s no secret that the Bills are in need for a big time WR and OBJ just might be the best in the game. 4. The Bills have the resources to cough up a contract of this magnitude. 5. There is plenty of OL in FA, probably our biggest need, available. 6. It’s not uncommon to find good OL in the 2nd rd and after. Matter of fact more times than not OL in the 1st rd usually turn out average at best. 7. Our defense is pretty good as of now but any added pieces can and will be addressed in FA and the draft. 8. OBJ just might be the straw that stirs the drink and makes everything else perform more efficiently. I’m sure that I’m gonna get destroyed over this but Beane has proven that he is not intimidated to make big time decisions. ?Gonna disagree on that one. We are talking top ten not the 32nd overall pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 I hear ya on the chemistry and the attitude thing but if this were to ever happen I would pitch the concept to him that he could do something that NOBODY has ever been able to do and that is to bring a championship to Buffalo. Make him realize that he can do something historical and unprecedented. Believe me, that would make a difference to a big ego. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 OBJ doesnt come across as a McBeane process guy. If we wanted OBJ here we shouldve drafted him instead of Watkins. Now his head is so big I cant see him wanting to play for our Bills. Patriots or any big market team is where he'll go if anywhere i'm guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, brianthomas said: OBJ doesnt come across as a McBeane process guy. If we wanted OBJ here we shouldve drafted him instead of Watkins. Now his head is so big I cant see him wanting to play for our Bills. Patriots or any big market team is where he'll go if anywhere i'm guessing How could Beane draft OBJ over Watkins when that was 3 years before he joined the Bills? Lmao How many more things before Beanes tenure here are people going to pin on him? Bad enough people blame him for Woods and Mahomes, both things that were before he was a Bill. Now Sammy over OBJ? Haha Edited February 15, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would prefer Brown over OBJ though. Brown is more reliable and mentally stable. But like I said above, if he really is available I would expect Beane would at least check on what Giants want for him. Rumors going around that Bell is going to Raiders and they are gonna trade for OBJ too. But rumors are just rumors Hey Alphadawg7, how ya doing. I appreciate your input, you kind of give this concept credibility so thanks. As far as Brown goes I think he might be as much if not more of a headcase than OBJ. In the last several weeks he has been making some unsavory headlines of off the field kind of behavior. As far as I know OBJ has kept his nose clean when it comes to this regard. And I anticipate others to start making suggestions like A.J. Green but to me the down side to him is he is 30 and is coming off of a pretty big foot (toe) injury. I don’t want a Sammy Part II and I don’t Beane does either. No, there is a few more positives to OBJ vs some of the other big time WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: 1. Both GMs have a congenial relationship. Let’s leave their sex life out of this. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I hope not. I don’t know why people think guys who have worn out their welcome in stable, successful environments like Pittsburgh and New York are going to work out in Buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: ?Gonna disagree on that one. We are talking top ten not the 32nd overall pick. Its the same. The history of top ten offensive linemen is not good. There are a lot of huge busts and disappointments and a few really good players. Edited February 15, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 If the player is such a headache that the team he is on doesnt want him why would we want hin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: 8. OBJ just might be the straw that stirs the drink and makes everything else perform more efficiently. I’m sure that I’m gonna get destroyed over this but Beane has proven that he is not intimidated to make big time decisions. You laid out some good points, but I'd be shocked if the Bills traded for OBJ. He seems more likely to be the straw that sucks the life out of a team.The guys douche-baggery is as immense as his talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I can't stand Odell-Beckham. He's a douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: How could Beane draft OBJ over Watkins when that was 3 years before he joined the Bills? Lmao How many more things before Beanes tenure here are people going to pin on him? Bad enough people blame him for Woods and Mahomes, both things that were before he was a Bill. Now Sammy over OBJ? Haha Man u have a tendency to read too much into what people say. I never said Beane wouldve drafted him or missed out on drafting him, obviously he wasnt around then. I simply said OBJ doesnt fit the kind of guys we go after & if he was ever gonna be a Bill, it wouldve happened by drafting him & not this. Maybe you need to take a break from message boards so you dont feel the need to jump over everyone elses posts all the time. You'll probably feel less stressed out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: OBJ is completely out of his mind and is ONLY a me first type player. Bad fit for Buffalo. What part is a bad fit? Best hands in NFL? Superstar talent? What is a good fit for Buffalo? 41 minutes ago, matter2003 said: If the player is such a headache that the team he is on doesnt want him why would we want hin? Have you seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I think we should go the young route and draft a guy. Beane needs to identify a WR 1 and go get him either in a trade down scenario or 2nd-3rd round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I have never seen anyone bring up a single star player that everyone didn't have an issue with the Bills acquiring. It's like the fanbase is afraid of having a great player. Great players act arrogant get over it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, brianthomas said: Man u have a tendency to read too much into what people say. I never said Beane wouldve drafted him or missed out on drafting him, obviously he wasnt around then. I simply said OBJ doesnt fit the kind of guys we go after & if he was ever gonna be a Bill, it wouldve happened by drafting him & not this. Maybe you need to take a break from message boards so you dont feel the need to jump over everyone elses posts all the time. You'll probably feel less stressed out lol You said "if we wanted him, we should have drafted him" over Sammy. There is no "we" in this organization that was part of the "we" of that organization. Not sure there is even a player on this roster that was on the team before that draft right now. Whats the point of saying that statement? Has literally no merit to whether THIS organization would have interest in getting Allen and Elite weapon like OBJ. Thats not me having a tendency to read too much into anything, thats me reacting to what you literally just said. And people on this board blame Beane for all kinds of things that happened before he got here that have nothing to do with him, so its not even out of the ordinary for this board. Edited February 15, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I'd love to get Beckham! His diva reputation is undeserved in my opinion. It must have been difficult for him to keep publicly supporting Eli all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I'd much rather draft Hockenson at 9, Hakeem Butler by trading 2nd and 3rd to move back-up in the 1st and draft a young RB to take over for McCoy in 2020. Add that to Foster, Jones, McKenzie, Croom and a veteran laden offensive line with a new RT, C and G and you have the building blocks of a great offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) They don't need him. They can acquire good players that aren't diva's for less money. He is not worth the trouble. I don't want to cheer for that d-hed Edited February 15, 2019 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I ask this on the heels of Jay Glazer predicting the Giants trading him. At first one would think no way but after thinking about it it could be a possibility that would make sense for both franchises. I’m gonna list some bullet points. 1. Both GMs have a congenial relationship. 2. The Giants with 2 top ten 1st rd picks would allow them to draft their future franchise b whoever that may be. 3. It’s no secret that the Bills are in need for a big time WR and OBJ just might be the best in the game. 4. The Bills have the resources to cough up a contract of this magnitude. 5. There is plenty of OL in FA, probably our biggest need, available. 6. It’s not uncommon to find good OL in the 2nd rd and after. Matter of fact more times than not OL in the 1st rd usually turn out average at best. 7. Our defense is pretty good as of now but any added pieces can and will be addressed in FA and the draft. 8. OBJ just might be the straw that stirs the drink and makes everything else perform more efficiently. I’m sure that I’m gonna get destroyed over this but Beane has proven that he is not intimidated to make big time decisions. If OBJ has shown the ability to stay healthy I say why not the fact is he's been hurt alot these last 2yrs and he doesn't fit the process. I believe the Giants know something about OBJ . Any team trying to trade for him can be getting damaged goods. 7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: How could Beane draft OBJ over Watkins when that was 3 years before he joined the Bills? Lmao How many more things before Beanes tenure here are people going to pin on him? Bad enough people blame him for Woods and Mahomes, both things that were before he was a Bill. Now Sammy over OBJ? Haha Well if he gonna get credit for Tre White, Dawkins, Milano , Poyer & Hyde then go figure, lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Its the same. The history of top ten offensive linemen is not good. There are a lot of huge busts and disappointments and a few really good players. Well I guess your FO has to make sure they pick the right guy like Indy did. A lot of it depends on who is gonna be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Big splash FA signings are rarely worth it. You always overpay for someone who feels no loyalty to your franchise. If it's possible to trade for a star, like they did with Shady, then that's preferrable. Otherwise, get solid starters in FA and get your superstars in the draft. Easier said than done, I know. That said, I wouldn't go hard after OBJ, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 If Beckham doesn't fit your process then your process needs adjusting. He's an excellent football player who is loved by his teammates, works about as hard as anyone in the league and truly wants to win. I thinl he and McDermott would speak the same language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Big splash FA signings are rarely worth it. You always overpay for someone who feels no loyalty to your franchise. If it's possible to trade for a star, like they did with Shady, then that's preferrable. Otherwise, get solid starters in FA and get your superstars in the draft. Easier said than done, I know. That said, I wouldn't go hard after OBJ, if at all. Huh? By your logic, a player who chooses to sign with a team in FA has less loyalty to that team than a player who is traded to that team against his will??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Huh? By your logic, a player who chooses to sign with a team in FA has less loyalty to that team than a player who is traded to that team against his will??? No. I said it's preferable to trade for a star, if possible, as opposed to signing him in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I hear ya on the chemistry and the attitude thing but if this were to ever happen I would pitch the concept to him that he could do something that NOBODY has ever been able to do and that is to bring a championship to Buffalo. Make him realize that he can do something historical and unprecedented. Believe me, that would make a difference to a big ego. Until someone innocently mentions his left cleat is untied, and OBJ spins off the rails because he was disrespected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Not gonna happen. Another diva, headcase WR who values himself above the team. Pass. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrEpsYtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Well I guess your FO has to make sure they pick the right guy like Indy did. A lot of it depends on who is gonna be available. I think the issue there is that Nelson happened to be a "once in a while elite player," like a Zach Martin. When those guys are there you take them. But if its projection and question marks, you can't take them in the top ten. Way more failures than success stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: No. I said it's preferable to trade for a star, if possible, as opposed to signing him in FA. Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 He's one of the few instances where the talent outweighs the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Already had him, his name was Sammy Watkins, Jr. How many more draft picks do you want to piss down that rat hole? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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