Wayne Cubed Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The only issues I see with this are that Palmer probably could earn more and carve our more of a career with what he's doing now. He can take on multiple clients. Maybe he has no interest in being a QB coach. And he would actually get to spend less time with Allen per the CBA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, PIZ said: Does Sean McVay have anyone left on his staff that the Bills could promote to QB coach? I heard the get back coach is available ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, eball said: Let's face it, guys...the Bills don't plan on Derek Anderson playing unless it's an emergency. Barkley will be the backup. Anderson is Allen's de facto QB coach next season. I get your point but I’m not sure how I feel about that. Coaching is a lot different than giving pointers as a player. Allen badly needs a guy who has a track record of success working with Qbs. It’s too important to just settle. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I like the Jordan Palmer idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Well, Jimbo says he wants to sit down with Josh. Cancer free again...(sorry, somebody had to say it) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 59 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Jordan Palmer? Don’t think that’s likely though for multiple reasons, inc. that he has a good gig going and can have player contact the entire offseason Beat me to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I get your point but I’m not sure how I feel about that. Coaching is a lot different than giving pointers as a player. Allen badly needs a guy who has a track record of success working with Qbs. It’s too important to just settle. C. Biscuit, I haven’t always agreed with your takes, but I’m nominating this one for post of the day, so update that resume accordingly, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buftex said: I like the Jordan Palmer idea. Are we even sure Palmer is a good coach? They are a ton of qb coaches and their main job is getting these guys ready for camps and combines. But rarely do nfl teams ever hire them. Personally, I want a guy with proven nfl or at least high level college success. We are hoping Daboll, a guy who has been a bottom 5 OC in the nfl almost every year, will get better. Let’s not do the same thing with a qb coach. It’s too important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Joe Philbin as QB Coach/Passing Game coordinator as was GB OC from 2007-2011 and again last year. Worked with a great QB (Rodgers) when he took over for Favre. Per reports he interviewed with McD in the last month - albeit that was probably for O Line position. Certainly qualified. Edited January 29, 2019 by freddyjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Are we even sure Palmer is a good coach? They are a ton of qb coaches and their main job is getting these guys ready for camps and combines. But rarely do nfl teams ever hire them. Personally, I want a guy with proven nfl or at least high level college success. We are hoping Daboll, a guy who has been a bottom 5 OC in the nfl almost every year, will get better. Let’s not do the same thing with a qb coach. It’s too important. As said up thread, it's possible he doesn't even want to be an NFL coach. He's got multiple clients, can ask for loads of money. He's his own boss at the moment. If he takes a coaching job he'll get to spend less time with his client(it becomes basically one guy). He'll have to answer to the team and head coach. Edited January 29, 2019 by Wayne Cubed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Wayne Cubed said: As said up thread, it's possible he doesn't even want to be an NFL coach. He's got multiple clients, can ask for loads of money. He's his own boss at the moment. If he takes a coaching job he'll get to spend more time with his clients. He'll have to answer to the team and head coach. Good point. It’s better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than speak and remove all doubt. It’s why I think draft “experts” should never leave those jobs. You can’t get fires if you miss on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Good point. It’s better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than speak and remove all doubt. It’s why I think draft “experts” should never leave those jobs. You can’t get fires if you miss on TV. He's got a seriously cushy job at the moment. No massive pressure and he doesn't have to answer to anyone except his clients. And yea your right, it's like draft pundits, they don't have to actually prove they can do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 THE BILLS NEW QB COACH??? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Wayne Cubed said: He's got a seriously cushy job at the moment. No massive pressure and he doesn't have to answer to anyone except his clients. And yea your right, it's like draft pundits, they don't have to actually prove they can do the job. He could have an awesome life and live on the beach. I think people underestimate how much coaching kinda sucks, especially in the nfl. You work insane hours only to probsbly get fires in a few years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) I just knew there'd be a few people saying Jordan Palmer. Keep in mind - he's worked with almost every QB worth a lick coming out of college for the past few seasons. And I have a feeling he will continue to. He's got a real cushy gig and no one even knows if he even wants to be an NFL coach. His business relationship with Josh Allen is no different than it has been with a number of other QBs coming into the league. What makes you think Josh is so special that Jordan is all of a sudden going to stop what he's doing to focus solely on him? Edited January 29, 2019 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Could explain why everything has been quiet on the WR coach front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 A bit surprised he views Baltimore pass game coordinator as a stepping stone to a HC gig. Culley must be higher on LJax than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Joe Philbin as QB Coach/Passing Game coordinator as was GB OC from 2007-2011 and again last year. Worked with a great QB (Rodgers) when he took over for Favre. Per reports he interviewed with McD in the last month - albeit that was probably for O Line position. Certainly qualified. Actually it was never reported what it was for... could have been this. I am sure they knew this was in the works. Culley is taking Marty morninweg’s position and he was out awhile ago. Just now, LSHMEAB said: A bit surprised he views Baltimore pass game coordinator as a stepping stone to a HC gig. Culley must be higher on LJax than most. Its basically co-OC because Roman only does the run game. It was the same in Buffalo. They do co-OC’s in college, not so much in the pros, but that’s how I see his role given Roman’s past. Edited January 29, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I just knew there'd be a few people saying Jordan Palmer. Keep in mind - he's worked with almost every QB worth a lick coming out of college for the past few seasons. And I have a feeling he will continue to. He's got a real cushy gig and no one even knows if he even wants to be an NFL coach. His business relationship with Josh Allen is no different than it has been with a number of other QBs coming into the league. What makes you think Josh is so special that Jordan is all of a sudden going to stop what he's doing to focus solely on him? This keeps being said over and over. I'm not disagreeing but I do have to question it. During Palmers NFL career (7 seasons) he made a total of 2.2 million. I know he takes on a few college QBs and has a few NFL QBs he is coaching (ala Allen). My question would be how much do people think he makes doing this? I guess I'm saying if private coaching is so lucrative, why doesn't the best QB coaches in the NFL do it? I guess we all will find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF KELLY GOT A SUPERBOWL RING AFTER ALL!!! Edited January 29, 2019 by Tatonka68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Actually it was never reported what it was for... could have been this. I am sure they knew this was in the works. Culley is taking Marty morninweg’s position and he was out awhile ago. Its basically co-OC because Roman only does the run game. It was the same in Buffalo. They do co-OC’s in college, not so much in the pros, but that’s how I see his role given Roman’s past. I get your point, but still find it kind of interesting. By the way, the sharps are all over Ohio State tonight. Most likely gonna be a closer game than meets the eye.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) So, let's say you are the QB coach for the Buffalo Bills. You think you are set to be tied at the hip to a fantastic young talent who is going to be the building block of the franchise for years to come. His name is Josh Allen. And then you leave to go to the Baltimore Ravens? Hmmmmmmmm. Edited January 29, 2019 by Nextmanup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: So, let's say you are the QB coach for the Buffalo Bills. You think you set to be tied at the hip to a fantastic young talent who is going to be the building block of the franchise for years to come. His name is Josh Allen. And then you leave to go to the Baltimore Ravens? Hmmmmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 As an independent contractor "QB coach" he does not have to move and he can only "lose clients" rather than be fired from a team. I'd think the money would have to be big to offset that. But, if the Bills do not name a QB coach going up to the draft they could be waiting out this off season gig to name him their coach. He can work with all the QBs he wants, including Josh without those odd CBA off season contact rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: The two favorites: Ken Dorsey Connections to McDermott/Beane Young Former QB App State assistant so it won't be too hard to pry him away Jim Bob Cooter Was Offensive Quality Control under Daboll in 2012 with the Chiefs Young Former QB Experienced Cooter's interesting as he seemed to do well in his first year as the Lions OC but then slowly fall apart. I'd welcome him because I know him as a name and he has worked with a big armed QB in the past (Stafford) and has time with Daboll. Yet if had to choose between him and Dorsey I think I'd take the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I get your point, but still find it kind of interesting. By the way, the sharps are all over Ohio State tonight. Most likely gonna be a closer game than meets the eye.? ? Game isn’t until 9 and i think Kaleb Wesson already picked up his 3rd foul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, eball said: The QB coach is already on the roster -- his name is Derek Anderson. Exactly, losing Culley will have no negative impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Jordan Palmer is a good asset in the draft process, but he has never coached on an NFL or CFB staff in any capacity. I am thrilled he is working with JA in the offseason, but I'd submit we need to pump the breaks on making him a full time NFL QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, eball said: The QB coach is already on the roster -- his name is Derek Anderson. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: So, let's say you are the QB coach for the Buffalo Bills. You think you are set to be tied at the hip to a fantastic young talent who is going to be the building block of the franchise for years to come. His name is Josh Allen. And then you leave to go to the Baltimore Ravens? Hmmmmmmmm. - John Harbaugh just signed a 4 year deal and the Ravens are a playoff team with a legit playoff roster right now. - If Culley can team with Roman to help the Ravens graduate to being a more explosive offense then he could jump right into contention for a HC job. Basically what Anthony Lynn did......it's just that Roman was fired........but they were running his offense. This had to be a REALLY easy decision for Culley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: - John Harbaugh just signed a 4 year deal and the Ravens are a playoff team with a legit playoff roster right now. - If Culley can team with Roman to help the Ravens graduate to being a more explosive offense then he could jump right into contention for a HC job. Basically what Anthony Lynn did......it's just that Roman was fired........but they were running his offense. This had to be a REALLY easy decision for Culley. Except that he went from his career hinging on Josh Allen's success to his career hinging on Lamont Jackson's success. I get taking the promotion and more $$ .... but I don't think he improved his situation at all. The 2018 Ravens were a playoff team like the 2017 Bills were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Just Joshin' Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, CNYfan said: I think they have to give him the "Assistant" status. Otherwise it would be a lateral move the Bills could block? The NFL sees all assistants at the same level. Only when going to head coach does it matter. I thought I read he wanted to get more into play calling so passing game coordinator may be the route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: So, let's say you are the QB coach for the Buffalo Bills. You think you are set to be tied at the hip to a fantastic young talent who is going to be the building block of the franchise for years to come. His name is Josh Allen. And then you leave to go to the Baltimore Ravens? Hmmmmmmmm. Take a look at who Josh Allen was always talking to & sitting with at team meetings-It was Daboll, not Culley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: - John Harbaugh just signed a 4 year deal and the Ravens are a playoff team with a legit playoff roster right now. - If Culley can team with Roman to help the Ravens graduate to being a more explosive offense then he could jump right into contention for a HC job. Basically what Anthony Lynn did......it's just that Roman was fired........but they were running his offense. This had to be a REALLY easy decision for Culley. Really easy if Culley doesn't see much in Allen, yes. This just looks like a lateral positions coach hire, worded a bit creatively. It's a stretch, to say the least, to think this move somehow positions Culley as HC candidate in the near term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I get your point but I’m not sure how I feel about that. Coaching is a lot different than giving pointers as a player. Allen badly needs a guy who has a track record of success working with Qbs. It’s too important to just settle. I'll admit I don't know, but my gut feeling is that a solid veteran QB on the roster is more useful to Allen than a QB coach, particularly during games and then in film review afterwards. If there's a coach who solely focuses on QB mechanics that's a different story -- but I think that's what Josh is doing during the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...certainly, but why not Assistant HC/QB Coach unless it conflicts with QB Coach Urban's title ?...interesting....... They don't have a QB to coach... they have a fancy running back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: They don't have a QB to coach... they have a fancy running back. ...LMAO!!.....you're late.....I've been patiently waiting for this.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: So, let's say you are the QB coach for the Buffalo Bills. You think you are set to be tied at the hip to a fantastic young talent who is going to be the building block of the franchise for years to come. His name is Josh Allen. And then you leave to go to the Baltimore Ravens? Hmmmmmmmm. Culley wants to be a HC. He ain't getting that shot in Buffalo, where McD has shown enough in two seasons that he is likely to be there at least a few more, and he ain't being promoted to OC. I really don't know what Culley did here. I never saw video of him working with Allen, and I never heard Allen specifically mention him when he was talking about learning how to be an NFL QB. He mentioned Daboll and Anderson all the time. I think Culley is just another old dude who has been around the league for a hundred years and is trying to find his best chance at landing a HC gig. The Baltimore position gives him a higher profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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