LSHMEAB Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, NewEra said: No way. I don’t have a problem giving this guy a second chance. The problem I have, is he’s a RB. I’d rather go with a rookie on a rookie contract. The fact that several team are interested will likely end is somewhat of a bidding war. A war that I wouldn’t want to get involved in, regardless if we have lots of money. Hunt is a nice player but look at Damian Williams now. Was he a nice player the last 4 years? No. Chiefs offense makes every rb look better than they are. Hunt included. Again, he’s a good player but he’s not elite imo That's an interesting point. Considering he was playing on a 4th round rookie contract, he's gonna cash in bigtime because of this incident. Just kind of a strange consequence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 He’s probably a choir boy in comparison to Richie Incognito, so the Pegula’s may be open to giving him another shot. Now there is no excuse for domestic violence, however, we have no idea what that woman did to provoke him. Using a racial slur (as rumored) towards Hunt could’ve set him off. I didn’t think it was an unforgivable act. It wasn’t a Ray Rice style KO. I don’t think his life should be over because of that incident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: But he is good at sports! And he stands for the anthem so all can be forgiven. Give one example of when an athlete that stands for the anthem was given special treatment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: I'd be fine with it. Not a big fan of writing guys off. Bonus; he'd help the football team. I didn't find the video particularly egregious. Charges were warranted yet not pursued, but it was a forgivable offense IMO. If Nagy wants him, the Bills should probably want him too. Same thoughts here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Hunt showed in that video that he's not a great guy. That being said, everyone can redeem themselves. And there are worst offenses. "Let he without sin cast the first stone." And this guy is an awesome football player. Sign him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25450892/all-three-incidents-factor-suspension-former-kansas-city-chiefs-rb-kareem-hunt It looks like there were at least 3 separate incidents in what looks to be a short amount of time (and I’ve heard rumors of more, but who knows if the6 are true), and Kansas City had given him previous warnings about staying out of trouble before his release. It would definitely be a risk, IMO. But I don’t really know enough about any of the incidents to have a strong opinion on this subject (though I obviously don’t agree with laying hands on a woman, no matter what she said to provoke you (even if she did call him the n word multiple times (don’t know if that is true or not though)). Edited January 20, 2019 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Everyone sez they have 18 teams aggressively trying to sign them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Beebe Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, CommonCents said: It was his second violent drunken outburst in a calender year, he laid out a guy in another incident. FWIW. What's wrong with drunken violent outburst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: Why not, all he did was hit/beat woman, he is good at playing a game and most important, he stands for the national anthem. Since we're not playing any woman's teams next season, I'd say No. Chippewa St does not need any walk on's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 You sign this guy and do everything you can to get his life pointed in the right direction. This is a young RB that you can build your franchise around. I think Hunt is a good person but he needs some help with a few things in his personal life. You bring in a RB like this to go with Allens athletic ability and you have yourself on the right path for a quick turnaround. What if we signed Hunt and traded our 1st round pick for A. Brown and upgraded the O-Line in FA and the draft. You have the makings of a good 4 year run, you have elite talent at RB and WR for 4 to 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 i voted yes. but...how much is he asking? if Hunt is looking for a big payday and there are multiple bidders, I would pass. This team has too many holes to throw a ton of money at one skill player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 You sign this guy and do everything you can to get his life pointed in the right direction. This is a young RB that you can build your franchise around. I think Hunt is a good person but he needs some help with a few things in his personal life. You bring in a RB like this to go with Allens athletic ability and you have yourself on the right path for a quick turnaround. What if we signed Hunt and traded our 1st round pick for A. Brown and upgraded the O-Line in FA and the draft. You have the makings of a good 4 year run, you have elite talent at RB and WR for 4 to 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Voted no as well. Kim wouldn't have it regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) This team is void of Elite talent at offensive play making positions. Big Ben is a giant D bag and I'm not surprised that their talented players are jumping ship. Rewatch the Bills Giants SB, we need to give Allen a Elite RB and WR to even approach getting back to that level again and two or three are available to be had. On a side note if we just ran Turmanator more against that crap two down lineman 4 LB look that Belicheat came up with we would've destroyed the Giants. Edited January 20, 2019 by Call_Of_Ktulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Not a big fan of writing guys off. Bonus; he'd help the football team. I didn't find the video particularly egregious. it was a forgivable offense IMO. Right, smashing a woman's head into a wall and then kicking her while she's down is forgivable. Punching an unsuspecting woman in the face in a restaurant/bar was not a big deal as well. Perhaps the Rae Carruth sentence was also too severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) I just think it's sad that the chiefs release Hunt , yet keep Tyreke Hill. It really signifies the power of video evidence. We can read about somethting but it's almost like our brain can't fully comprehend it until we visually see it . I'm not excusing Hunts behavior , just wish there was consistent consequences for all . Edited January 20, 2019 by Finkle Is Einhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Right, smashing a woman's head into a wall and then kicking her while she's down is forgivable. Punching an unsuspecting woman in the face in a restaurant/bar was not a big deal as well. Perhaps the Rae Carruth sentence was also too severe. Not sure we saw the same tape of the Mixon or Hunt incidents. But you're a lock em up and throw away the key guy, so we're not gonna find common ground. That's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I'd be okay with it, but it would have to be a zero tolerance policy with him...any trouble of any sort(even late for a practice) and your gone. Also, he would have to commit to being involved with anti-domestic violence groups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 No. It wasn't an isolated incident. He's another Reuben Foster. Sure he's a talented football player but due to his poor decision making and impulse control, he's not on the field and he's always one bad Saturday night out on the town from another incident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: Voted no. As we have a female CEO don’t see how this signing could fly as sends the wrong message to female fans. No doubt. Ask Russ Brandon, Mike Gilbert and Nick Fattey if they think the Bills will claim Hunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just can’t see Kim Pegula signing off on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef4131 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Highly doubt Kim would want it. Past week 2 more male employees were let go for harassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I fail to see any risk in taking him on. Could likely get him at a cut rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Nah. I'd prefer signing Kaepernick as a backup. -At least he didn't kick the crap out of a girl when she was on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Dime a dozen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, #34fan said: Nah. I'd prefer signing Kaepernick as a backup. -At least he didn't kick the crap out of a girl when she was on the ground. Neither did Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducej11 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: Voted no. As we have a female CEO don’t see how this signing could fly as sends the wrong message to female fans. To be honest, this is the reason why we are probably the only team that could sign him without it being a huge deal. If she is willing to sign off after a conversation with him and came out and lead the press conference regarding it, there isn't much else that can be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, CommonCents said: It was his second violent drunken outburst in a calender year, he laid out a guy in another incident. FWIW. And this is my concern. The incident that lost him his job is not a one off. There are rumours of two other incidents aside from the two we know about as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 My first reaction was no.........he's just a RB.......you can always get good ones without the baggage. But I'm hoping for a big Bills/Chiefs rivalry to emerge........and this would add a little more spice to it..........so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) I sincerely hope that the Bill's try to sign him. First off, although what he did was out of line, it was not a career ending egregious act. Secondly, he is young and beginning to enter into his prime. Third, he is an excellent receiving back. Fourth, hes a really good higher end starting RB in this league. Fifth, he doesnt have an extensive history of these sort of things and the locker room is established enough to take him on. And lastly, we would be able to pick up a quality Offensive starter without expending a draft pick. Edited January 20, 2019 by Magox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Doc said: Neither did Hunt. So your nailing me on a technicality? -Fine. No actual crap came out of the woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, #34fan said: So your nailing me on a technicality? -Fine. No actual crap came out of the woman. He essentially pushed her over with his foot. Despite the fact that there was nobody standing in his way and he could’ve done whatever he wanted to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I’d expect more of the same; good play on the field and a hair trigger temper off the field. I’m hoping Beane can find good, mature players that don’t need a babysitter. Too much drama can cause a team to lose focus. Worry too much about off the field when it should be focus on the field. Might be why KC decided to move him out so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: He essentially pushed her over with his foot. Despite the fact that there was nobody standing in his way and he could’ve done whatever he wanted to her. Congratulations! You've given the most bull**** -infused, absurdity of an excuse I have ever heard in my life for girl-punching. I'm sure you're proud of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Magox said: I sincerely hope that the Bill's try to sign him. First off, although what he did was out of line, it was not a career ending egregious act. Secondly, he is young and beginning to enter into his prime. Third, he is an excellent receiving back. Fourth, hes a really good higher end starting RB in this league. Fifth, he doesnt have an extensive history of these sort of things and the locker room is established enough to take him on. And lastly, we would be able to pick up a quality Offensive starter without expending a draft pick. He does have 3 incidents in 18 mos. He does stupid things ie fights when drunk. And he has a history of getting drunk and stupid all the way back to Toledo where he was suspended for 2 games. Pass. Not worth the aggravation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I get it if people aren’t interested, however your recap of the event feels to be quite a stretch of the facts considering he neither hit nor beat her. He's not trying to make a point, he's just virtue-signaling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 hours ago, freddyjj said: Voted no. As we have a female CEO don’t see how this signing could fly as sends the wrong message to female fans. She hasn't indicated this kind of signing would bother her one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ducej11 said: To be honest, this is the reason why we are probably the only team that could sign him without it being a huge deal. If she is willing to sign off after a conversation with him and came out and lead the press conference regarding it, there isn't much else that can be said. Can't see Kim signing off as just canned 3 of PSE execs for sexual harassment in last few months. Too sensitive a topic to overlook or issue a hall pass on. He has only gotten worse with alcohol fueled behavior as a pro. 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: She hasn't indicated this kind of signing would bother her one bit. See response above As a season ticket holder and father with 2 daughters I hope we pass. Edited January 20, 2019 by freddyjj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Can't see Kim signing off as just canned 3 of PER execs for sexual harassment in last few months. Too sensitive a topic to overlook office a ball pass on. He has only gotten worse with alcohol fueled behavior as a pro. Yeah, but those guys arent good at playing a game, so you cant overlook it, they can be replaced easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, #34fan said: Congratulations! You've given the most bull**** -infused, absurdity of an excuse I have ever heard in my life for girl-punching. I'm sure you're proud of yourself. It wasn’t an excuse, just an unbiased assessment of what happened at the end of their interaction. He shouldn’t have touched her and same the goes for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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