Your draft sleeper pick

[Seoulofstone]

Daylon Mack DT (Texas A+M), Devine Ozigbo RB (Nebraska). Also curious to see if the Canadian linebacker Matthieu is drafted.

[Magox]

Andy Isabella.

 

Great top line speed, even faster gameday speed, phenomenal quick-twitch athlete, can get separation from just about anyone, superior balance, fantastic production and absolutely torched top 10 ranked opponents on a few occasions including projected 1st and 2nd rd NFL DB prospects.

 

The only reason why he isn't rated higher is because hes a slot receiver.  He will be the most productive receiver in this years draft.  I just hope that the Bills nab him.

 

I think he can be used similar to how McCaffrey is used, not as many rushing attempts but could be used on jet sweeps and other designed runs and thrown to 10+ times a game.

[CSBill]

16 hours ago, unbillievable said:

Lucy Draper. a 5'10" 141lb kicker from Texas State (Armadillos!). Kicks soccer style up to 40yds, and has nice legs that go all the way up.

rated #1 on the all movie fantasy team. Above such greats as Forest Gump, Bobby Boucher, and Willie Beamen.

http://web.yesnetwork.com/theniner/?ymd=20151022

 

 

Funny

[TigerJ]

8 hours ago, wppete said:

 

Not really a sleeper pick if drafted in the first round. 

I agree with that.  I suppose everybody has their own definition.  I have a hard time considering anybody picked in the first couple rounds as a sleeper.

[thunderingsquid]

DE Been Banogu TCU.  

 

4th round or so.

[YoloinOhio]

14 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan.

 

Huge guy, raw athlete. 

What round? His hands scare me 

12 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I am a big UGA fan. Nick Chubb is a different back. Chubb lost weight and got lean for the NFL. Holyfield is more an old school between the tackle running back. I wouldn’t really go after him till the 5th.

 

now Isaac Nauta the TE from UGA would be a nice pick up in the third. Watch him to move up boards once people see him at the combine.

Totally agree on Holyfield. Swift will be the real prize out of that backfield whenever he comes out. 

 

I will stay in your neck of the woods though with my sleeper pick: WR Riley Ridley. Not huge #s in college but I don’t believe that will matter.

[whatdrought]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

What round? His hands scare me 

Totally agree on Holyfield. Swift will be the real prize out of that backfield whenever he comes out. 

 

No earlier than 4. Probably more like 5.

[frostbitmic]

Jacquis Webb - OL - UB 6'6" 359 in the 7th round ... Went to the same high school as I did which is good enough reason for me.

[LSHMEAB]

25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

What round? His hands scare me 

 

 

 

Psh. They didn't scare you a couple months ago!

 

Gentry's got some upside, but it'd be hard to a Michigan fan to ever forget that disaster. Wouldn't have made a difference in the final score, but he certainly didn't help.

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Jacquis Webb - OL - UB 6'6" 359 in the 7th round ... Went to the same high school as I did which is good enough reason for me.

From that angle I will go with Cody Thompson, WR Toledo. I work with his uncle. 

 

Had a very good day (and whole week of practice) at the E-W Shrine Game. 

[elltrain22]

Josh Jacobs, Alabama RB 

Also, Dalton Reisner OT Kansas State 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

18 hours ago, Dopey said:

I really like Henderson. 

He looks like a special player to me. Id be all over him. 

[freddyjj]

Daniel Wise, DT Kansas

His dad played in NFL  and bro in league now. A quick 3T replacement for Kyle.  Could use one of our 5th rounders on him.   Captain and 4 yr player that McBeane look for.  Looked good in East West game yday.  

[White Linen]

4 hours ago, TigerJ said:

I agree with that.  I suppose everybody has their own definition.  I have a hard time considering anybody picked in the first couple rounds as a sleeper.

 

As you said it's subjective a 5th round pick that starts is a sleeper.  I consider Tre' White a sleeper pick.  

 

So for the sake of this thread it should be more clearly defined that you're only looking for Antonio Brown type of picks. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Prisco’s Top Draft Sleepers

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Miles Boykin-WR Notre Dame

[MAJBobby]

On 1/19/2019 at 3:33 PM, TigerJ said:

I think one of the fun activities of the pre draft process is to identify potential sleepers, guys who might be picked up in the third round or later with a chance to blossom into a solid football  player or maybe even a star.

 

At this point one guy who has caught my attention is Jazz Ferguson.  He is a 6'5" 225 lb wide receiver from Northwestern State (Louisiana).  He brother, Jaylon Ferguson is also part of the upcoming draft as a WR.  He could be drafted in round 1.  Jazz transfered from LSU because of academics and a failed drug test.  He got his life straightened out, got his grades up and turned into a star at a lower level of competition.  He didn't have much of a route tree at Northwestern State, but he's athletic, excellent hands, and following his sophomore wakeup call has turned into a leader and dedicated football player.

 

So, who's your sleeper pick?

 

Alex Barr from ND, OG

Boykin WR ND

 

have a lot more 

38 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Prisco’s Top Draft Sleepers

 

A lot of those are 1st and second round picks not really sleepers

[JESSEFEFFER]

15 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Miles Boykin-WR Notre Dame

 

I have been looking at the big WRs as that is what is missing from the Bills WR group and Hakeem Butler gets the most talk but Boykin is of the same type and he may be special in that role too.  Anohter is Jalen Hurd of Baylor who was a 4 star RB recruit toTennesee and transferred to Baylor.  It's an odd path to the NFL and a knee injury kept him from testing much at the combine.  Here is how Joe Marino described him as a prospect:  Jalen Hurd from The Draft Network.

 

RED FLAGS - Procedure on knee in December kept him out of pre-draft process.  

It’s not often a four-star running back recruit in the SEC ends up a wide receiver in the Big Twelve and enters the NFL as a wide receiver prospect but that’s the case with Hurd. For a prospect with only one season of game experience at receiver, there are some components of Hurd’s game that looks like he’s new to the position while others that appear he’s been doing it his whole life. Developing route running nuance, particularly in his releases is critical. From a hands/ball skills perspective, Hurd is sound. In the right offense, Hurd has the potential to be a versatile offensive weapon that can handle numerous duties.

Round Grade - Mid Day 3 Value

Edited April 17, 2019 by JESSEFEFFER

[GunnerBill]

Okay I have pretty much finalised my grading work for this draft so here are my sleepers. Some are mid round guys on whom the consensus is lower some are late round fliers.

 

TE Josh Oliver, San Jose State

Consensus: 3rd-4th rounder

On my board: 2nd rounder

I think this guy could end up being the best tight end in this class. He has terrific size and speed for the position, and good hands and a big catch radius. Runs routes (basically a full tree) and separates better than some of the highly regard receivers in this class and while his blocking technique needs some work he shows no lack of willingness or desire to block and can win physically.

 

S Malik Gant, Marshall

Consensus: 5th rounder

On my board: 3rd rounder

Former walk on at Marshall who later earned a scholarship. All effort on every play. Bit of a throwback in the sense that when he hits he properly hits. Goes downhill better than he backpedals but he has decent ball skills and can play special teams.

 

WR Alex Wesley, Northern Colorado

Consensus: UDFA

On my board: 6^th-7^th rounder

I was intrigued by this kid’s combine workouts and went off and managed to find a couple of bits of film on the internet. He has obviously played against low end competition but he is an intriguing slot/gadget guy with excellent speed and shiftiness. Also runs down field and hits on special teams. I’d be willing to throw a late round pick at him.

 

DT Cortez Broughton, Cincinnati

Consensus: 4^th-5^th rounder

On my board: 3^rd rounder

Has started to generate some major buzz the last few weeks and may end up going earlier than a lot of people expected. A little undersized as a defensive tackle but so explosive off the ball it is frightening. Needs to improve his technique when he gets there to shed blockers and finish plays but his potential is sky high.

 

ILB, Tyrel Dodson, Texas A&M

Consensus: 7^th round / UDFA

On my board: 4^th rounder

A little undersized but a fast, instinctive linebacker who can cover and provides some pass rush upside. Feel like he is an outside off the ball linebacker in the NFL and he just screams out a fit for Sean McDermott’s scheme. Groomed as a long term replacement for Lorenzo as the SAM?

 

S, Chris Johnson, North Alabama

Consensus: UDFA

On my board: 5^th-6^th rounder

Big, fast, instinctive, ball skills, this guy was a star of the East-West Shrine Game and has sky high potential. Needs to be smoother in and out of breaks and with changes of direction in order to shadow receivers and could improve his tackling technique but as a developmental guy there is talent here.

 

DE, Jordan Brailford, Oklahoma State

Consensus: 5^th-6^th rounder

My board: 4^th rounder

Strong, well balanced with the speed to power conversion that teams look for. When he gets there he is a ferocious finisher at the point of contact. Needs to improve his range of pass rush moves (at the moment it is bull rush or nothing) but has early value as a sub package pass rusher and can develop from there.  

Edited April 18, 2019 by GunnerBill

[MrEpsYtown]

David Sills!

[YoloinOhio]

Stanley Morgan, Jr

[FeelingOnYouboty]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Stanley Morgan, Jr

 

He's going to be such a solid pro

[DCOrange]

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Stanley Morgan, Jr

One of the best WR prospects in the draft IMO

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

He's going to be such a solid pro

I feel like a team like the Chargers is going to take him in like the 6th rd and he will step in and replace Tyrell Williams immediately 

[BuffaloHokie13]

On 4/2/2019 at 11:41 AM, BuffaloHokie13 said:

 

 

[JESSEFEFFER]

56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay I have pretty much finalised my grading work for this draft so here are my sleepers. Some are mid round guys on whom the consensus is lower some are late round fliers.

 

TE Josh Oliver, San Diego State

Consensus: 3rd-4th rounder

On my board: 2nd rounder

I think this guy could end up being the best tight end in this class. He has terrific size and speed for the position, and good hands and a big catch radius. Runs routes (basically a full tree) and separates better than some of the highly regard receivers in this class and while his blocking technique needs some work he shows no lack of willingness or desire to block and can win physically.

 

S Malik Gant, Marshall

Consensus: 5th rounder

On my board: 3rd rounder

Former walk on at Marshall who later earned a scholarship. All effort on every play. Bit of a throwback in the sense that when he hits he properly hits. Goes downhill better than he backpedals but he has decent ball skills and can play special teams.

 

WR Alex Wesley, Northern Colorado

Consensus: UDFA

On my board: 6^th-7^th rounder

I was intrigued by this kid’s combine workouts and went off and managed to find a couple of bits of film on the internet. He has obviously played against low end competition but he is an intriguing slot/gadget guy with excellent speed and shiftiness. Also runs down field and hits on special teams. I’d be willing to throw a late round pick at him.

 

DT Cortez Broughton, Cincinnati

Consensus: 4^th-5^th rounder

On my board: 3^rd rounder

Has started to generate some major buzz the last few weeks and may end up going earlier than a lot of people expected. A little undersized as a defensive tackle but so explosive off the ball it is frightening. Needs to improve his technique when he gets there to shed blockers and finish plays but his potential is sky high.

 

ILB, Tyrel Dodson, Texas A&M

Consensus: 7^th round / UDFA

On my board: 4^th rounder

A little undersized but a fast, instinctive linebacker who can cover and provides some pass rush upside. Feel like he is an outside off the ball linebacker in the NFL and he just screams out a fit for Sean McDermott’s scheme. Groomed as a long term replacement for Lorenzo as the SAM?

 

S, Chris Johnson, North Alabama

Consensus: UDFA

On my board: 5^th-6^th rounder

Big, fast, instinctive, ball skills, this guy was a star of the East-West Shrine Game and has sky high potential. Needs to be smoother in and out of breaks and with changes of direction in order to shadow receivers and could improve his tackling technique but as a developmental guy there is talent here.

 

DE, Jordan Brailford, Oklahoma State

Consensus: 5^th-6^th rounder

My board: 4^th rounder

Strong, well balanced with the speed to power conversion that teams look for. When he gets there he is a ferocious finisher at the point of contact. Needs to improve his range of pass rush moves (at the moment it is bull rush or nothing) but has early value as a sub package pass rusher and can develop from there.  

 

Oliver (from San Jose State) is interesting. I will look more at him.  Seems to be in the same category as Kahale Warring of SDSU as far as being a 3rd/4th round guy.  I would like some combination of TE/WR/RB/DL/Edge in the first 5 picks.  If they can get two of their picks upgraded into the the top 100, they could actually get 5 candidates to make the roster.  If not Hockensen, then a TE like Warring/Sternberger/Oliver wwould be in the mix.

[muppy]

Julian Love CB Fighting Irish. He didn't have a great combine but the guy is really good in man coverage if you watched him play in college. When the Irish played Clemson he being injured early in that game hampered ND quite a bit. I think he might drop a bit we'll see.

and yes I do home hard for Domer players I think Boykin WR would be killer in a Bills uniform too, great hands, runs great routes and had an excellent combine 4.42 40 and highest vertical leap of any WR

[YoloinOhio]

14 minutes ago, muppy said:

Julian Love CB Fighting Irish. He didn't have a great combine but the guy is really good in man coverage if you watched him play in college. When the Irish played Clemson he being injured early in that game hampered ND quite a bit. I think he might drop a bit we'll see.

and yes I do home hard for Domer players I think Boykin WR would be killer in a Bills uniform too, great hands, runs great routes and had an excellent combine 4.42 40 and highest vertical leap of any WR

I could see the Bills taking him. I believe they will take a CB somewhere and they scouted ND live multiple times 

[thebandit27]

20 minutes ago, muppy said:

Julian Love CB Fighting Irish. He didn't have a great combine but the guy is really good in man coverage if you watched him play in college. When the Irish played Clemson he being injured early in that game hampered ND quite a bit. I think he might drop a bit we'll see.

and yes I do home hard for Domer players I think Boykin WR would be killer in a Bills uniform too, great hands, runs great routes and had an excellent combine 4.42 40 and highest vertical leap of any WR

 

You stay away from my boy J-Love! That's my draft crush, and nobody is going to steal him from me now!

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

 

I haven't done nearly the draft work that you or others have done...........but I can't do a mock draft without taking Josh Oliver because he's always there in round 3 or 4..........the sweet spot for value at TE..........I just feel good about that guys game sorta' the way I did with Tre White.    I think he's going to be really good.   

Edited April 17, 2019 by BADOLBILZ

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I haven't done nearly the draft work that you or others have done...........but I can't do a mock draft without taking Josh Oliver because he's always there in round 3 or 4..........the sweet spot for value at TE..........I just feel good about that guys game sorta' the way I did with Tre White.    I think he's going to be really good.   

 

Me too. I'd not be adverse to trading back into the bottom of round 2 if he is still there. Think he has the highest ceiling of TEs in this draft.

[Captain Hindsight]

Chase Winovich

[Bill from NYC]

Christian Miller - OLB - Alabama

 

Miller is an unusual player in that he has a low floor and a very high ceiling. He is more of a pass rusher than anything else and he truly does get off the LOS in a heartbeat. The kid is 6'4;" I have seen him listed at 247 but he appears to be lighter to me.

 

If he puts on some weight and muscle he could develop (imo of course) into a great pass rusher. If not, the possibility of him getting shoved around by strong OTs does exist.

 

Miller is a very smart kid, and there is video on you tube of him running around an OT, grabbing Kyler Murray, and tossing him like a frisbee in the playoffs.

 

He is a gamble, but easily worth a 3rd imo.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Bill from NYC

[BADOLBILZ]

15 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Christian Miller - OLB - Alabama

 

Miller is an unusual player in that he has a low floor and a very high ceiling. He is more of a pass rusher than anything else and he truly does get off the LOS in a heartbeat. The kid is 6'4;" I have seen him listed at 247 but he appears to be lighter to me.

 

If he puts on some weight and muscle he could develop (imo of course) into a great pass rusher. If not, the possibility of him getting shoved around by strong OTs does exist.

 

Miller is a very smart kid, and there is video on you tube of him running around an OT, grabbing Kyler Murray, and tossing him like a frisbee in the playoffs.

 

He is a gamble, but easily worth a 3rd imo.

  

 

I agree he has a high ceiling as a pass rusher.  Doesn't really project to LB in a 4-3......he looked particularly out of place in some of those combine drills for OBLB's........ and a little small for a 4-3 DE but he has the look of a pass rusher and frame to grow some.   I know Newsome is gone but he just looks like one of those guys the Ravens steal and then build up into a high producer.

[TigerJ]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay I have pretty much finalised my grading work for this draft so here are my sleepers. Some are mid round guys on whom the consensus is lower some are late round fliers.

 

TE Josh Oliver, San Diego State

Consensus: 3rd-4th rounder

On my board: 2nd rounder

I think this guy could end up being the best tight end in this class. He has terrific size and speed for the position, and good hands and a big catch radius. Runs routes (basically a full tree) and separates better than some of the highly regard receivers in this class and while his blocking technique needs some work he shows no lack of willingness or desire to block and can win physically.

 

S Malik Gant, Marshall

Consensus: 5th rounder

On my board: 3rd rounder

Former walk on at Marshall who later earned a scholarship. All effort on every play. Bit of a throwback in the sense that when he hits he properly hits. Goes downhill better than he backpedals but he has decent ball skills and can play special teams.

 

WR Alex Wesley, Northern Colorado

Consensus: UDFA

On my board: 6^th-7^th rounder

I was intrigued by this kid’s combine workouts and went off and managed to find a couple of bits of film on the internet. He has obviously played against low end competition but he is an intriguing slot/gadget guy with excellent speed and shiftiness. Also runs down field and hits on special teams. I’d be willing to throw a late round pick at him.

 

DT Cortez Broughton, Cincinnati

Consensus: 4^th-5^th rounder

On my board: 3^rd rounder

Has started to generate some major buzz the last few weeks and may end up going earlier than a lot of people expected. A little undersized as a defensive tackle but so explosive off the ball it is frightening. Needs to improve his technique when he gets there to shed blockers and finish plays but his potential is sky high.

 

ILB, Tyrel Dodson, Texas A&M

Consensus: 7^th round / UDFA

On my board: 4^th rounder

A little undersized but a fast, instinctive linebacker who can cover and provides some pass rush upside. Feel like he is an outside off the ball linebacker in the NFL and he just screams out a fit for Sean McDermott’s scheme. Groomed as a long term replacement for Lorenzo as the SAM?

 

S, Chris Johnson, North Alabama

Consensus: UDFA

On my board: 5^th-6^th rounder

Big, fast, instinctive, ball skills, this guy was a star of the East-West Shrine Game and has sky high potential. Needs to be smoother in and out of breaks and with changes of direction in order to shadow receivers and could improve his tackling technique but as a developmental guy there is talent here.

 

DE, Jordan Brailford, Oklahoma State

Consensus: 5^th-6^th rounder

My board: 4^th rounder

Strong, well balanced with the speed to power conversion that teams look for. When he gets there he is a ferocious finisher at the point of contact. Needs to improve his range of pass rush moves (at the moment it is bull rush or nothing) but has early value as a sub package pass rusher and can develop from there.  

Oliver is one of my favorite tight end picks in the draft.  I feel like he is a well rounded TE with plenty of athleticism. Hockenson is more polished and played at a higher level of competition, but I think Oliver's upside is comparable.

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

  

 

I agree he has a high ceiling as a pass rusher.  Doesn't really project to LB in a 4-3......he looked particularly out of place in some of those combine drills for OBLB's........ and a little small for a 4-3 DE but he has the look of a pass rusher and frame to grow some.   I know Newsome is gone but he just looks like one of those guys the Ravens steal and then build up into a high producer.

 

Agree 100% with this on Miller.

[Bill from NYC]

29 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

  

 

I agree he has a high ceiling as a pass rusher.  Doesn't really project to LB in a 4-3......he looked particularly out of place in some of those combine drills for OBLB's........ and a little small for a 4-3 DE but he has the look of a pass rusher and frame to grow some.   I know Newsome is gone but he just looks like one of those guys the Ravens steal and then build up into a high producer.

I know what you mean wrt Newsome. It would be crazy if he went to the Skins!!!

 

I have seen every game Miller has played and really did notice steady improvement. He never played on a bad defense, the talent around him was consistent but did not improve from season to season as Miller did.

 

Would a kid like this be an asset in Nickel Packages? I am thinking that he wouldn't have many coverage responsibilities in a nickel and could just go after quarterbacks.

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by Bill from NYC

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

Just now, Bill from NYC said:

I know what you mean wrt Newsome. It would be crazy if he went to the Skins!!!

 

I have seen every game Miller has played and really did notice steady improvement. He never played on a bad defense, the talent around him was consistent but did not improve from season to season but Miller did.

 

Would a kid like this be an asset in Nickel Packages? I am thinking that he wouldn't have many coverage responsibilities in a nickel and could just go after quarterbacks.

 

I like this thought .. a lot

[mrags]

On 1/19/2019 at 9:05 PM, White Linen said:

 

Yes.  There's several WR's projected to go before him and I think he becomes the best WR in this class.  

 

Anything else?

Me too. I really think he is the Odell Beckham of this draft at WR. Dudes incredible. I wouldn’t say he’s a sleeper. I think he’ll be the 3-5th best WR picked. Probably by the beginning to middle of the 2nd round. 

[mrags]

I’m a sucker for skill positions. So I’ll stick with RB and WR

 

Henderson- may be a sleeper. But I’ve done so many mocks and keep seeing him be the number 1 off the board (except Jacobs) as early as the late 2nd. I still think the kid can fly and will be very good. 

 

Holyfield- he’s another one. Kid has very good size imo. Could shed a little weight and be perfect for an NFL back. He’s a 4th rounder or 5th and he’d be a steal. 

 

LJ Scott- I know some have warned me on this kid. I don’t care. I know what I see. The kid should be a 3rd day pick and will be an absolute stud in the league assuming he’s put in the right position with the right team. 

 

Wrs is similar. I’d say Harmon, Butler, Hall, Ridley all have potential to be not only good WRs in this league but could turn out being the best of the group above all the rest. Butler and Hall are considered 2nd round guys so they are much of a sleeper pick, but if they dominate, they would be. Harmon and Ridley are more like 3rd and 4th round picks and could be just as good. 

 

Well I’ll all see soon enough.