Jump to content

Redskins may want to trade up for QB - targeting Haskins


YoloinOhio

Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, DCOrange said:

I don't think it's "may" personally. Living in the DC area, I think it's pretty obvious just based on the attitudes around here that the Redskins will likely be extremely desperate to make a splash of some sort, whether that's trading for a guy like Antonio Brown or, more likely IMO, trying to move up to take Haskins, who brings triple value to the Redskins as:

  1. A legitimately good QB prospect (even if I think he's overrated)
  2. A cheap QB while they're stuck paying Alex Smith to not play football
  3. A local kid that can excite the fan base

 

Kyler Murray could be an option for them as well as he would undoubtedly bring excitement to the team, but I'm not sure they'll want to go that route after watching RGIII's leg fall off.

 

Quadruple value, actually, if you believe that their division rival covets him...

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

57 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Bills trade 9th overall pick to the Redskins for the 15th and 46th picks...

 

Bills trade 15th overall pick to Raiders for 24th, 27th and 66th picks...

 

Bills now own two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, two 3rd round picks, two 4th round picks and two 5th round picks

 

1. 

1. 

2. 

2. 

3. 

3. 

4. 

4. 

5.  

5. 

The 15th overall pick is not worth 2 first and a third

Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I really don’t think McBeane is afraid of the Fire Everyone crowd on TBD. I’ve said elsewhere I would not be at all surprised to see them add picks for next year if the value is there. Unless you’re afraid of losing your job, you do what’s best long term. I think they are comfortable enough to be open to picks next year. 

 

 

I think if they trade down the ammo they get will be used to move back into the first and latter they will move back into the second.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

35 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I think we may ultimately see 4 QBs in the first round again this year honestly. Wouldn't be shocked at all if all of Haskins, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, and Drew Lock go in the first. Should be interesting; seems like teams are much higher on Haskins than I personally am, but I think I'm higher on Jones and Lock than most are.

 

I agree, the QB derby always heats up after the combine. As mentioned by the OP Redskins would be good if we can good compensation because an impact player would still be available at 15. Also, somebody might want to move up in the 2nd round so the bills might be able to make a good move there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I think if they trade down the ammo they get will be used to move back into the first and latter they will move back into the second.

 

Anything could happen. But getting picks for next year wouldn’t upset me if there’s value. I hope they are not just one trick ponies who only move up, but while it may feel that way after last year early, that’s not always been the case, so.....who knows? 

 

I just pray we have the smartest scouts in the league! They looked pretty good last year. There are good players in EVERY round, if you are smart and a bit lucky. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Bills are in a great position to trade down, if they are willing to drop out of the top 10

Asside from a few elite DTs and edge rushers there are not a lot of prospects I can see Beane coveting so much he wouldn't move down a few spots.  If the Bills are interested in a defensive tackle, Christian Wilkins and/or Jeffery Simmons have a good chance of being available.  If they want a WR, DK Metcalfor N'Keal Harry are possibilities.  If they want an offensive lineman, Cody Ford or David Edwards may be on the board.  There is nothing so special about Jonah Williams or Greg Little that they are worth holding on to #9 overall.   What kind of compensation in extra picks could we expect from a moive down 6 places?  What does Washington have to bargain with?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From 10 on I could see a bunch of teams want to get ahead of Denver to snitch a QB, including Denver moving up a spot.

 

Denver

Cincy

Washington

Miami

Minnesota

 

 

Bills are in a great spot to move down just slightly but gain a 2nd/3rd this year and a 5th at worst.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

We need the best OT possible.  Whether we move up or down.

Please no more trading up.  We did it twice last year and it cost.  Alot

Should never be trading up unless it's for a franchise qb or is just a great price

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It is, compared to last year. But, still some good prospects and more importantly, QB needy teams who didn’t pull the trigger last year

..thanks bud.....don't get to see college ball, but is this a 2011 remake of Locker, Ponder & Gabbert types?......or shades of 2013?.....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, transient said:

I want Beane to get the most absolute value he can out of this top 10 pick, whether that's landing a blue chip player or swindling some extra picks.  It gonna be the last top 10 pick he's going to get for a while without having to trade up for it.  :flirt:

This is where I am, too. Somebody really good is going to fall to them. Happens every year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...thank you...appreciate the help..........:thumbsup:

I watch a lot of CFB but I’m definitely no scout. I don’t see it like 2013 because only one went in the 1st and that wasn’t until 16. I absolutely cannot see that happening this year. In 2011 there were several taken early, some didn’t pan out - but Cam went #1 overall. I don’t see a Cam newton but i see 2-3 future starters. Jmo. 

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

9 and a 4th for 15, their 2nd and one of their 3rds is a deal that I’d do in a heartbeat. This would give the Bills 5 players before the end of day 2. 

Kirby, You are getting greedy. I don't see the Skins making that move. If there was an elite qb prospect then your proposal might make sense. But I don't see that caliber of qb in this draft. 

 

There is a chance that Alex Smith's career might be in jeopardy. If that was the case I would think that they would go the free agent route for a qb and then use their picks to address their other multiple needs. 

 

The owner has become a pariah in his own market because of the incompetent manner he has managed the operation. This franchise has literally lost a generation of fans. The problem with him is that he is constantly taking a marketing approach when running the football operation. That is a predictable failed strategy in this highly competitive business. He is currently reaping what he has so arrogantly sowed. The fans are tired of this systemic mediocrity and are responding with their indifference. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, 416BillsFan said:

Brilliant if you don't give up too much for a Joe Thomas, not so much for an Eric Fisher.

 

 

Either

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

There are six teams in front of the Bills that probably won't be drafting QBs (AZ, NYJ, SF, Raiders, TB, and Detroit), so I wouldn't get too excited here.

 

 

Only if the Raiders, TB and Detroit are waiting for 2020....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, DCOrange said:

I don't think it's "may" personally. Living in the DC area, I think it's pretty obvious just based on the attitudes around here that the Redskins will likely be extremely desperate to make a splash of some sort, whether that's trading for a guy like Antonio Brown or, more likely IMO, trying to move up to take Haskins, who brings triple value to the Redskins as:

  1. A legitimately good QB prospect (even if I think he's overrated)
  2. A cheap QB while they're stuck paying Alex Smith to not play football
  3. A local kid that can excite the fan base

 

Kyler Murray could be an option for them as well as he would undoubtedly bring excitement to the team, but I'm not sure they'll want to go that route after watching RGIII's leg fall off.

 

 I hope...but they also may go the FA/cheap trade route with Foles or Flacco. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Regardless of what you think about a particular team, it's really disheartening to watch any team make the move to get their quarterback, only to watch the quarterback's leg snap like a pretzel so quickly. I can't imagine being a die-hard Redskins fan, pumped about your shiny new quarterback one year, and finding out a year later you need to go shopping again.

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Anything could happen. But getting picks for next year wouldn’t upset me if there’s value. I hope they are not just one trick ponies who only move up, but while it may feel that way after last year early, that’s not always been the case, so.....who knows? 

 

I just pray we have the smartest scouts in the league! They looked pretty good last year. There are good players in EVERY round, if you are smart and a bit lucky. 

They would be moving down from nine to gain more picks to move up.  We likely arnt gonna take 10 guys.  Picks next year are ok but we need players this year.  I would rather take 2 in the first and 2nd than two in the 3rd and 4th.

 

We are not allowed to trade any 5th rounders though, they seem to have good luck there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, TigerJ said:

Asside from a few elite DTs and edge rushers there are not a lot of prospects I can see Beane coveting so much he wouldn't move down a few spots.  If the Bills are interested in a defensive tackle, Christian Wilkins and/or Jeffery Simmons have a good chance of being available.  If they want a WR, DK Metcalfor N'Keal Harry are possibilities.  If they want an offensive lineman, Cody Ford or David Edwards may be on the board.  There is nothing so special about Jonah Williams or Greg Little that they are worth holding on to #9 overall.   What kind of compensation in extra picks could we expect from a moive down 6 places?  What does Washington have to bargain with?

Washington's 2nd rnd pick 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

 I hope...but they also may go the FA/cheap trade route with Foles or Flacco. 

 

I just can't see the Redskins, who currently are projected to have just $16 million in cap space making a move to bring in Foles/Flacco for $20 million per year on top of paying Alex Smith $20 million. That would be an insane amount of money to spend on what would likely amount to below average QB play. I think drafting someone is basically their only option at this point. The fans have already completely turned on the organization and them trying to roll out Colt McCoy or spending a combined $40 million on below average QBs will only cause even less fan interest. The only way I really see the Redskins making a play for someone like Foles is if the market ends up being dry and he's forced to accept like $5-10 million per year instead.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, DCOrange said:

 

I just can't see the Redskins, who currently are projected to have just $16 million in cap space making a move to bring in Foles/Flacco for $20 million per year on top of paying Alex Smith $20 million. That would be an insane amount of money to spend on what would likely amount to below average QB play. I think drafting someone is basically their only option at this point. The fans have already completely turned on the organization and them trying to roll out Colt McCoy or spending a combined $40 million on below average QBs will only cause even less fan interest. The only way I really see the Redskins making a play for someone like Foles is if the market ends up being dry and he's forced to accept like $5-10 million per year instead.

I think you have it right. They need a reset and a young QB is a good start. Drafting one will give the fans a new hope, even if it’s false hope. 

 

 

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

The 15th overall pick is not worth 2 first and a third

 

The Saints moved from 27th last year to 14 to draft Marcus Davenport. They gave up two 1sts and a 4th. Let's not act like we haven't seen these moves before. 

 

I love how everyone is giving Dan Snyder and Mark Davis way too much credit

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

There are six teams in front of the Bills that probably won't be drafting QBs (AZ, NYJ, SF, Raiders, TB, and Detroit), so I wouldn't get too excited here.

Then this would make our pick even more valuable - more QBs available to pick from. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

Then this would make our pick even more valuable - more QBs available to pick from. 

How so? There are only a couple of qbs remotely worthy of a top ten pick, and if 6 teams (or even 4, if I'm conservative) are out of the QB game and want to trade down, where does that leave Buffalo w/regard to a potential trade down? If teams want a QB, they will be willing to move up. Last year proved that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

How so? There are only a couple of qbs remotely worthy of a top ten pick, and if 6 teams (or even 4, if I'm conservative) are out of the QB game and want to trade down, where does that leave Buffalo w/regard to a potential trade down? If teams want a QB, they will be willing to move up. Last year proved that.

If teams think Denver is going QB and none have been selected by 9 then I could see a team paying a premium to get in front of Denver for their pick of the litter. Otherwise it's pretty meh.

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

×
×
  • Create New...