CEN-CAL17 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Kansas City TE, 27 years old. Looks to have good athletic ability. Should be affordable without breaking the bank. Made nearly $2M this year. Maybe 4 year $16M deal? Pair him up with Croom and draft another.... Ive heard Max Williams name thrown out there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Yeah I'd have to say no to him as well. Hardly any production thru out his career & surprisingly this season too with how well that offense has been rolling. 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas If we did what you suggested I'd be thrilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) Sign him! Wait, who is he? And I've been throwing out Maxx Williams name quite a bit. He's on the outs with the drafting of Hayden Hurst and I don't think he's reached his potential in Baltimore. He wouldn't be the ultimate solution at the position, but he'd be nice depth. We likely have to add multiple guys anyway. If we can sign two fullbacks, we can sure as hell pick up two tight ends. The draft is the likeliest place to find "the guy." Probably don't have to give out much in the way of guaranteed money to a guy like Maxx Williams, so let Croom and the rest of em fight it out in camp. Edited January 11, 2019 by LSHMEAB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, brianthomas said: Yeah I'd have to say no to him as well. Hardly any production thru out his career & surprisingly this season too with how well that offense has been rolling. If we did what you suggested I'd be thrilled Those 3 TE's for Josh would be a dream. But it would require substantial blocking instruction for Wilson and more for Croom. All 3 are "plus" receiving TE's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Those 3 TE's for Josh would be a dream. But it would require substantial blocking instruction for Wilson and more for Croom. All 3 are "plus" receiving TE's Yep for sure. While our coaches are at it, they can instruct our offensive line on how to block too I'm curious to see what assistant coaches we bring in. This offseason is going to be one of the most exciting ones i've seen in recent memory, besides from last year & getting our franchise QB. But i'm all in on getting rid of Clay & Thomas. We've spent too much time trying to develop Thomas. The time to move on from him was last year imo. Better late than never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 imma jesse james guy 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas Like Eifert's skill but he is too injury prone. A contract would need to protect the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas He’s making $2M this year... going into FA you think he’s going to take less? And you know Buffalo has to overpay in FA. His value is roughly $2-3 M per upwards of $4M per.... guess what the Bills would have to pay. It’s a very realistic scenario. Eifert will probably be in the same ball park but he may but he may only play 50% of the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas Eifert? Ehhhhhhhh. We need to add talented players that play. Eifert doesn’t play. Maybe to a 1 year 3-4 mill deal but he won’t go for that. I’m ok with signing him as long as we sign and draft another TE. Croom can battle for 3rd tight end. It’s just almost a given that eifert will miss lots of time with injury for for the Igor price, sure. Though for that price, I’m sure he’d rather go to a perceived contender with a HoF QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas No thanks to Eifert. I'd rather have a TE that will actually be on the field and play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 44 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Sign him! Wait, who is he? And I've been throwing out Maxx Williams name quite a bit. He's on the outs with the drafting of Hayden Hurst and I don't think he's reached his potential in Baltimore. He wouldn't be the ultimate solution at the position, but he'd be nice depth. We likely have to add multiple guys anyway. If we can sign two fullbacks, we can sure as hell pick up two tight ends. The draft is the likeliest place to find "the guy." Probably don't have to give out much in the way of guaranteed money to a guy like Maxx Williams, so let Croom and the rest of em fight it out in camp. 32 minutes ago, WMDman said: imma jesse james guy I'm a sign both guys guy! You could cut DiMarco and have Williams double as a fullback/TE like he does in Baltimore. I like James a lot too. Draft TJ Hockenson too. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I would love Harris. He has had limited opportunities because he is stuck behind the best TE in the league. The production has been there when given the chance and he is a solid blocker as well. Hes a huge target and has flashed ability in the redzone. This would be a great start for helping Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 44 minutes ago, WMDman said: imma jesse james guy I am too. Gimme him and and a rookie to go with Croom and I’ll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I think we got that guy already on the roster in Croom imo, this is also a deep draft for the TE position. No need to stunt Jason's growth by adding a guy who is a 3 year younger version of himself for 4M per season no less, again just my opinion not trying to stir any pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 wait is Clay still seriously on the team? seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Dude has bricks for hands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: No thanks to Eifert. I'd rather have a TE that will actually be on the field and play. Maybe they can get him a protective uniform, much like the protective shell they got Kelso for his helmet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Sign Jessie James he fits what we are looking for . JJ has steadily improved threwout his career. He's also young going into his 2nd contract has nice size 6'7 255 . He can be a real steal on the market ala Poyer/Hyde . I would target big Jessie from day 1 of free agency . We should also draft a kid pretty high in the draft and while he's developing JJ can start and be a solid part of our offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas I’d rather sign a dead guy than Eifert. They’d play the same amount. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Honestly, I had never heard of the guy. Tough to get recognized when you play behind possibly the best guy at that position in the game. I’m glad smarter people than me get to make these decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 15 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas If we sign Eifert then we can cut Clay because we will have a new TE to be injured all the time. 14 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I think we got that guy already on the roster in Croom imo, this is also a deep draft for the TE position. No need to stunt Jason's growth by adding a guy who is a 3 year younger version of himself for 4M per season no less, again just my opinion not trying to stir any pot. At first thought I agreed but after thinking about it an additional 3 seconds we really need more than 1 TE correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 16 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Kansas City TE, 27 years old. Looks to have good athletic ability. Should be affordable without breaking the bank. Made nearly $2M this year. Maybe 4 year $16M deal? Pair him up with Croom and draft another.... Ive heard Max Williams name thrown out there too. Probably get some inside info on him given where he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 10 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: If we sign Eifert then we can cut Clay because we will have a new TE to be injured all the time. At first thought I agreed but after thinking about it an additional 3 seconds we really need more than 1 TE correct. True that's why i said it's also a deep draft for TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) On 1/11/2019 at 6:30 PM, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Kansas City TE, 27 years old. Looks to have good athletic ability. Should be affordable without breaking the bank. Made nearly $2M this year. Maybe 4 year $16M deal? Pair him up with Croom and draft another.... Ive heard Max Williams name thrown out there too. No, CJ Uzomah for 3/18. 7 million guaranteed, 4th year option at 10 milion. Edited January 13, 2019 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I expect one TE Via UFA, and one Via the draft. In UFA I’d go after Kroft, James or Uzomah. In the draft there’s a lot to like. Fant is the #1 right now, but there’s time for that to change. Then you’ve got Irv Smith Jr., Hockenson, Kaden Smith, Okwuegbunam from Missouri, and others, but right there you’ve got 5 guys that I would REALLY like to add to this team. Keep Croom as your #3, and you’ve got the type of tight end group Daboll can start to work with. He had great tight ends in New England, and I think they’d allow us to be more diverse in our charming offensively 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 4:14 PM, 1ZAYDAY1 said: He’s making $2M this year... going into FA you think he’s going to take less? And you know Buffalo has to overpay in FA. His value is roughly $2-3 M per upwards of $4M per.... guess what the Bills would have to pay. It’s a very realistic scenario. Eifert will probably be in the same ball park but he may but he may only play 50% of the games. Everyone is assuming Tyler Eifert is just gonna get injured again and that's not necessarily the case. But you are right, the contract would have to take injury risk into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Everyone is assuming Tyler Eifert is just gonna get injured again and that's not necessarily the case. But you are right, the contract would have to take injury risk into consideration. He’s played 43 games out of a possible 96 in his career. That’s ridiculous. Yes, he’s going to get injured again. I’ll put my house on it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 5:50 PM, brianthomas said: Yeah I'd have to say no to him as well. Hardly any production thru out his career & surprisingly this season too with how well that offense has been rolling. If we did what you suggested I'd be thrilled I haven’t watched him specifically but much like I bring up “soooomebody is going to get 800+ yards even if a bad player in a bad offense- there are going to be 3000 yards spread somewhere” similar can be said the other way. When you have 5-6 major threats ahead of you, you can be a very good player with a boring stat line. No idea on this kid but in evaluating the KC backup tight end, production is low on my list of places to have expectations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 6:48 PM, LABILLBACKER said: 4/$16 No. Very little production his first 4 years in the league. Sign Eifert. #1 Draft Caleb Wilson (UCLA) #2 TE Croom #3 TE Say goodbye to Clay & Thomas Eifert better come cheap, he is always hurt. How do you count on a guy like that being your 1 tight end, seems he is hurt way more often than Clay was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 6:52 PM, LSHMEAB said: Sign him! Wait, who is he? And I've been throwing out Maxx Williams name quite a bit. He's on the outs with the drafting of Hayden Hurst and I don't think he's reached his potential in Baltimore. He wouldn't be the ultimate solution at the position, but he'd be nice depth. We likely have to add multiple guys anyway. If we can sign two fullbacks, we can sure as hell pick up two tight ends. The draft is the likeliest place to find "the guy." Probably don't have to give out much in the way of guaranteed money to a guy like Maxx Williams, so let Croom and the rest of em fight it out in camp. he's 24 isnt he or still a project ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: he's 24 isnt he or still a project ? Definitely still got a lot of upside, but could see us easily outbidding the Ravens considering they drafted Hurst in the first round last year. It does probably mean they're not sold on Williams, but it would be a good value signing IMO. That's what free agency is all about. Teams are gonna keep their top guys so you have to look for players their respective team may undervalue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 hours ago, NoSaint said: I haven’t watched him specifically but much like I bring up “soooomebody is going to get 800+ yards even if a bad player in a bad offense- there are going to be 3000 yards spread somewhere” similar can be said the other way. When you have 5-6 major threats ahead of you, you can be a very good player with a boring stat line. No idea on this kid but in evaluating the KC backup tight end, production is low on my list of places to have expectations Bills had best be replacing Clay for some one Allen can work with 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: Definitely still got a lot of upside, but could see us easily outbidding the Ravens considering they drafted Hurst in the first round last year. It does probably mean they're not sold on Williams, but it would be a good value signing IMO. That's what free agency is all about. Teams are gonna keep their top guys so you have to look for players their respective team may undervalue. absolutely. pro scouting is no joke. Beane will get better at it : ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 It will be interesting to see what they do in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 This isn't a guy you want. Bad hands. Doesn't help in the run game either. Has a knack for a spectacular catch 2 or 3 times a season..and its a big surprise every time it happens because he drops A LOT of routine stuff. Already been suspended for substance abuse once......this isn't a case of a talented guy being buried on the depth chart behind the leauges best TE....even though that is true....he'd be buried on a lot of other teams depth charts as well. He won't be missed in KC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On January 11, 2019 at 11:16 PM, Jay_Fixit said: I’d rather sign a dead guy than Eifert. They’d play the same amount. Then why the preference for the dead guy? Shouldn't they be equal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I'd definitely take Eifert over a dead guy if their contracts were equal, but I'm pretty sure you could get the dead guy for league minimum and I would want a performance based contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 If he's coming in as a backup I'm fine with it but we should be aiming for the next Kelce not his backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Don’t really want any Chiefs on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 5:30 PM, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Kansas City TE, 27 years old. Looks to have good athletic ability. Should be affordable without breaking the bank. Made nearly $2M this year. Maybe 4 year $16M deal? Pair him up with Croom and draft another.... Ive heard Max Williams name thrown out there too. I would just start over at the TE position. Sign a TE in FA, draft a TE and the 3rd TE should be for goal line and pass protection purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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