The Quarterback Shuffle 2019

[EmotionallyUnstable]

With a handful of notable QBs likely to, or expected to, leave their team, I'm curious in opinions or thoughts on where they may end up. Considering the lack of expected potential via draft at the position, I could see teams more willing to look to free agency for a signal caller. Here are my guesses:

 

Flacco: Jaxonville 

 

Tannehill: Washington

 

Tyrod: Baltimore (backs up Lamar)

 

Manning: Retires

 

Bridgewater: Miami

 

My scenario leaves the Giants with a glaring need atvQB, where they could trade for Nick Mullens or select the highest ranked QB in the draft. 

 

The other interesting scenario is Foles/Wentz in Phili, but ill let that play out to make a guess as to what happens. 

 

Lmk if I'm missing anyone

Edited January 8, 2019 by EmotionallyUnstable

[CommonCents]

Flacco on the Titans would probably make them more of a contender. I’m not sure they give up on MM yet.

 

Tyrod to Baltimore would be great for AFC teams and their wild card hopes. Talk about doubling down on stupid by the Ravens.

 

Tannehill and the Skins is the perfect combo of MEHHHH.

 

Best landing spot for Foles/Wentz would be NYG but you know they won’t make that deal in the division. That will be the most interesting off season story outside of the will he won’t he retire (Brady and BB).

[EmotionallyUnstable]

To clarify, TT to Balt as a back up for Lamar

[CSBill]

Kind of like reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic

[formerlyofCtown]

Flacco: Washington

Tannehill: Miami

Tyrod: Washington

Manning: NYG or Denver

BridgeWater: Denver or NY Giants

 

[BruceVilanch]

Flacco:Miami

Tannehill: Jax

Tyrod: Balt

Manning:NYG

Bridewater: Denver

Foles:Washington (They will overpay because...Washington)

Edited January 8, 2019 by Jeetz1231
Forgot about washington

[billsredneck1]

i could see the jags and chucky make a deal for carr. marrone knows he needs an established talent to compete in that division. he doesn't have time for a rookie to develop.

 

i can see flacco going to washington.

 

i suppose bridgewater to miami as well as miami drafting one but,  i think they'll keep tannehil and draft his replacement.

 

i think the eagles will move a qb and bruce ariens and tampa would probably be a great situation for foles.

 

i can also see the pats working a deal for mullens.

 

i think the titans should sign bradford as a backup.

 

i think toorod will stay in cleveland as a backup or go to be the no. 2 in denver.

 

i believe the giants will draft one high and ride with eli one more year.

 

and lastly, i  think denver will draft one high. they have to pay keenum anyway. maybe they give chad another shot.

Edited January 8, 2019 by billsredneck1

[oldmanfan]

Tampa Bay may be in the mix if Arians decides he can't stomach Winston.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

WWCKG?!

Edited January 8, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013
Let’s see how long it takes to figure that out.

[All_Pro_Bills]

18 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

With a handful of notable QBs likely to, or expected to, leave their team, I'm curious in opinions or thoughts on where they may end up. Considering the lack of expected potential via draft at the position, I could see teams more willing to look to free agency for a signal caller. Here are my guesses:

 

Flacco: Jaxonville 

 

Tannehill: Washington

 

Tyrod: Baltimore (backs up Lamar)

 

Manning: Retires

 

Bridgewater: Miami

 

My scenario leaves the Giants with a glaring need atvQB, where they could trade for Nick Mullens or select the highest ranked QB in the draft. 

 

The other interesting scenario is Foles/Wentz in Phili, but ill let that play out to make a guess as to what happens. 

 

Lmk if I'm missing anyone

To this point I don't see any indication Eli Manning is contemplating retirement.  There's a connection to Jacksonville with Couglin.  Buyers should be wary of Foles.  My suspicion is that his success with the Eagles is purely situational and whether his game can translate to another team is questionable.  And we don't know for sure the Eagles will move him as we don't know what's going on with Wentz as this is his second major injury in two seasons.   I don't think the Broncos are satisfied with Keenum so I'd add them to teams looking to upgrade or change.  Wonder if Elway regrets passing on Josh Allen or Josh Rosen when both were there for him?  Maybe Flacco to Washington?  This would eliminate the need to uproot and move as its not a very far drive from Baltimore.  I don't see the 49ers trading Mullens as he's a cheap, young back up.  Maybe throw in the Raiders as you never know what Gruden is thinking so maybe Carr will be in play too. 

 

Other teams that need to start thinking about the future soon.  Chargers, Patriots, Lions as Stafford really hasn't done anything for them the past several seasons.  

 

What's great is the Bills are not on the list.  For the first time in a long time they are set at the QB spot going into the off season with Allen, Barkley, and Anderson.  They have some needs to address elsewhere on offense and defense but they are at positions. 

[Peace Frog]

I love that the Bills finally, FINALLY, don't have a QB situation that needs to be resolved going into the offseason.  About time.

[BruceVilanch]

3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Tampa Bay may be in the mix WHEN Arians decides he can't stomach Winston.

Fixed it!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said:

Fixed it!

I don’t know...a few home cooked crab legs dinners for coach, and those two will be ‘lovey dovey’.

Edited January 8, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013
I stuttered...

[Coach Tuesday]

All kinda depends on who Miami hires to coach, right?

 

As for Flacco, he's not going somewhere where they've installed a short, precision-passing offense, like Washington.  That's not his game.

[whatdrought]

Bridgewater to NYG makes sense. He had a chance to make decent money but didn’t show out, so he’ll probably be looking at something more in line with low level starter. Gives the giants a good backup/someone to plug in if Manning falters. Also, Schumer had him in MIN. 

Also, I think David Carr will legitimately be on the market. I think the giants make too much sense for that as well.

 

[oldmanfan]

41 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said:

Fixed it!

Well done

[BuffaloHokie13]

Manning - Giants

Flacco - Broncos

Tannehill - Dolphins

Tyrod - Jaguars

Bridgewater - Jaguars

Carr - Redskins

Raiders - Haskins/Jones w/ Bradford as insurance.

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Isn't it great we don't have to worry about this at all this offseason?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Philly managed to make it work with Foles for this year - they can't for next year.  If they move on from Wentz I'd be very surprised.  They should move Foles for the best pick they can get - it won't be the giants who won't be trading their 1st this year, but someone else very well might.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

With a handful of notable QBs likely to, or expected to, leave their team, I'm curious in opinions or thoughts on where they may end up. Considering the lack of expected potential via draft at the position, I could see teams more willing to look to free agency for a signal caller. Here are my guesses:

 

Flacco: Jaxonville 

 

Tannehill: Washington

 

Tyrod: Baltimore (backs up Lamar)

 

Manning: Retires

 

Bridgewater: Miami

 

My scenario leaves the Giants with a glaring need atvQB, where they could trade for Nick Mullens or select the highest ranked QB in the draft. 

 

The other interesting scenario is Foles/Wentz in Phili, but ill let that play out to make a guess as to what happens. 

 

Lmk if I'm missing anyone

 

 

My guess

 

Tannehill - Jacksonville - He's good at handoffs and dumpoffs

Flacco - Oakland/Vegas with a rookie behind him.  I don't think they can move carr for much of anything as his base salary is very high for a back-up QB.  

Tyrod - Washington

Foles - Miami - This probably depends on the coach, but i assume he'd want to go to NYG with Shurmur... but they won't trade in the division and i think Miami may give them the best offer of picks/players

Manning - i think he sticks for a year with a rookie eventually taking over.  If not, Fitzpatrick and a rookie. 

Bridgewater - Tampa 

Carr - New Orleans, Cincinnati, or New England

 

I think RG3 sticks in baltimore as LJ's backup

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said:

Flacco:Miami

Tannehill: Jax

Tyrod: Balt

Manning:NYG

Bridewater: Denver

Foles:Washington (They will overpay because...Washington)

I was thinking Foles to the Raiders. Seems like the kind of QB Chuckie might overpay for.

[CaptnCoke11]

A couple of those teams will draft a guy in round 1

[corta765]

2 hours ago, Peace Frog said:

I love that the Bills finally, FINALLY, don't have a QB situation that needs to be resolved going into the offseason.  About time.

 

This is the first time in my Bills adult life I can actually remember this statement being true.

[Chuck Wagon]

Jacksonville is too screwed on the cap to go for any big time FA signing.  I think they either make a move for Haskins or if the Eagles are actually entertaining Foles over Wentz the Jags should give them a godfather offer for Wentz.  I tend to believe the Eagles are going to keep both Wentz and Foles to buy some time on making a decision, unless Foles wins another SB.

 

I think the Giants run Eli back, I just expect someone else to be more aggressive on getting Haskins than them.

 

Miami - Bridgewater makes a lot of sense, he's a local kid and IMO the one guy on the market teams could talk themselves into as a long term solution.  

 

Washington - Tannehill or Flacco, a short term "opportunity" deal makes a lot of sense for Washington and either of them, given their status in the market and Smith's uncertainty.

 

Baltimore - Tyrod as a guy with somewhat a similar style to Jackson and a guy they know, although I could see him wanting to go somewhere like Denver with a better chance at winning the job.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

22 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

 

My guess

 

Tannehill - Jacksonville - He's good at handoffs and dumpoffs

Flacco - Oakland/Vegas with a rookie behind him.  I don't think they can move carr for much of anything as his base salary is very high for a back-up QB.  

Tyrod - Washington

Foles - Miami - This probably depends on the coach, but i assume he'd want to go to NYG with Shurmur... but they won't trade in the division and i think Miami may give them the best offer of picks/players

Manning - i think he sticks for a year with a rookie eventually taking over.  If not, Fitzpatrick and a rookie. 

Bridgewater - Tampa 

Carr - New Orleans, Cincinnati, or New England

 

I think RG3 sticks in baltimore as LJ's backup

 

 

Gruden won’t go for TT in Washington- also we think Alex is done after the leg? In that case I See Flacco in Washington 

 

Just adding a name I’ve yet to see Nick Mullins might have trade value for miners to consider. 

 

Also 2-3 QBs from draft that might  end up starting. 

 

Foles should be be starting somewhere. He turned Phillys season.  I don’t see the Wentz vs Foles conundrum as being so simple. One is a better thrower and athlete, one is just a winner. 

 

 

[dpberr]

Foles will not leave Philadelphia.  Even if he wins them another Super Bowl.  Even if some team literally offers him a wheelbarrow of cash.  I just do not see that happening.  

 

Tyrod Taylor will not be a starter for any team, especially after Mayfield walks onto that scene in the middle of a game and transforms the Browns into a respectable offense.  

 

I wouldn't rule out Andy Dalton being on the move as well, especially if they hire somebody else besides Lazur or Hue Jackson.  

 

 

[Seasons1992]

3 hours ago, CSBill said:

Kind of like reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic

 

It's GREAT to not be in this conversation as a franchise!

[MrEpsYtown]

See i think Bridgewater to Jacksonville makes teh most sense. He can dink and dunk and has short and medium range accuracy that allows you to play conservative Marrone-ball. He is the anti-Bortles. Jacksonville is in a bad way. Even if they cut Bortles, Malik Jackson, and Calais Campbell, they would only have 19 million in cap.  

 

Jacksonville's situation is a great lesson for why Brandon Beane tore it down and ate all of that dead cap. Jacksonville should be adding to their team and trying to compete, but it's going to be all patchwork going forward. If I am a team like teh Bills, I take advantage of them and pilfer their roster, maybe trade for a guy like Brandon Lindner. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Gruden won’t go for TT in Washington- also we think Alex is done after the leg? In that case I See Flacco in Washington 

 

Just adding a name I’ve yet to see Nick Mullins might have trade value for miners to consider. 

 

Also 2-3 QBs from draft that might  end up starting. 

 

Foles should be be starting somewhere. He turned Phillys season.  I don’t see the Wentz vs Foles conundrum as being so simple. One is a better thrower and athlete, one is just a winner. 

 

 

I think TT is the placeholder while Smith finishes rehab - but i see where you're going.  Maybe Carr ends up there then?

 

Foles issue is money - theyre over the cap and they're immediately under if they trade him/release him - not necessarily if they try to trade Wentz.  They'll still have to cut people to try and bring in impact players - but they're over the cap while losing darby and graham.  

Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

See i think Bridgewater to Jacksonville makes teh most sense. He can dink and dunk and has short and medium range accuracy that allows you to play conservative Marrone-ball. He is the anti-Bortles. Jacksonville is in a bad way. Even if they cut Bortles, Malik Jackson, and Calais Campbell, they would only have 19 million in cap.  

 

Jacksonville's situation is a great lesson for why Brandon Beane tore it down and ate all of that dead cap. Jacksonville should be adding to their team and trying to compete, but it's going to be all patchwork going forward. If I am a team like teh Bills, I take advantage of them and pilfer their roster, maybe trade for a guy like Brandon Lindner. 

 

What's the point in patchworking a mediocre team when you have no QB.  If it doesn't work in 2019 they're going to have to blow it all up.  Bortles kept/traded/cut murders their cap space no matter what - and why push money into 2020 when its likely that you can't win in 2019.  

[Big Gun]

I could see Flacco to the Broncos. Elway might pursue him similar to Manning also a grizzled veteran security blanket for the new coach. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Just now, dneveu said:

I think TT is the placeholder while Smith finishes rehab - but i see where you're going.  Maybe Carr ends up there then?

 

Foles issue is money - theyre over the cap and they're immediately under if they trade him/release him - not necessarily if they try to trade Wentz.  They'll still have to cut people to try and bring in impact players - but they're over the cap while losing darby and graham.  

 

You're on target will philly. No easy answer for them.

 

Foles Trade seems the obvious business decision, but what if he runs the birds deep into the post season again?  

 

Wetnz could step in right now but he’s third string.  

[Chris66]

Philly isnt going to get much for Foles. One year at 20 mil.if they pick up the option.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

You're on target will philly. No easy answer for them.

 

Foles Trade seems the obvious business decision, but what if he runs the birds deep into the post season again?  

 

Wetnz could step in right now but he’s third string.  

 

You almost have to gut the team to keep Foles though - I'm not sure Pederson would want to do that.  At the very least you're cutting your starting LT in Peters, and probably trading Agholor for... nothing (and they already lose Tate).  Might have to move on from Bennett or Long (not ideal when you already lose Graham), and possibly Kelce.  Doing all that allows you to keep both QBs, add some depth players, and maybe make a play to sign some contributors in free agency.  Free Agents make more money than the guys you have though so its tough.  

 

Agholor, Peters, and Long are the likely trio i would move on from.  9 million seems to be a lot for a slot receiver who hasn't had that good of production, Peters is 36 and banged up a lot, and Long isn't worth the contract.

 

This assumes that Foles wants to stay, and is fine with playing without an extension (incredibly unlikely).

 

4 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

Philly isnt going to get much for Foles. One year at 20 mil.if they pick up the option.

 

I think if they agree to the option it's easier to negotiate an extension - it wouldn't have the same limitations that a franchise tag has where the extension has to be met by a certain time.  Foles can also just opt out for 2 mil and just sign where he wants and leave philly with nothing unless they tag.  

Edited January 8, 2019 by dneveu

[Chris66]

4 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

You almost have to gut the team to keep Foles though - I'm not sure Pederson would want to do that.  At the very least you're cutting your starting LT in Peters, and probably trading Agholor for... nothing (and they already lose Tate).  Might have to move on from Bennett or Long (not ideal when you already lose Graham), and possibly Kelce.  Doing all that allows you to keep both QBs, add some depth players, and maybe make a play to sign some contributors in free agency.  Free Agents make more money than the guys you have though so its tough.  

 

Agholor, Peters, and Long are the likely trio i would move on from.  9 million seems to be a lot for a slot receiver who hasn't had that good of production, Peters is 36 and banged up a lot, and Long isn't worth the contract.

 

This assumes that Foles wants to stay, and is fine with playing without an extension (incredibly unlikely).

 

 

I think if they agree to the option it's easier to negotiate an extension - it wouldn't have the same limitations that a franchise tag has where the extension has to be met by a certain time.  Foles can also just opt out for 2 mil and just sign where he wants and leave philly with nothing unless they tag.  

Even if they do a sign and trade. 20 mil is the starting point. My guess is your looking at minimum Garrapolo, Carr money. I cant see a team giving up a first and 125 mil.

[MrEpsYtown]

33 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

 

What's the point in patchworking a mediocre team when you have no QB.  If it doesn't work in 2019 they're going to have to blow it all up.  Bortles kept/traded/cut murders their cap space no matter what - and why push money into 2020 when its likely that you can't win in 2019.  

 

Because if their quarterback didn't blow, then they have a shot at competing. That is not a bad roster. They also have Marquise Lee coming back. They should not tear it down yet. But Bortles has to go one way or another. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

With a handful of notable QBs likely to, or expected to, leave their team, I'm curious in opinions or thoughts on where they may end up. Considering the lack of expected potential via draft at the position, I could see teams more willing to look to free agency for a signal caller. Here are my guesses:

 

Flacco: Jaxonville 

 

Tannehill: Washington

 

Tyrod: Baltimore (backs up Lamar)

 

Manning: Retires

 

Bridgewater: Miami

 

My scenario leaves the Giants with a glaring need atvQB, where they could trade for Nick Mullens or select the highest ranked QB in the draft. 

 

The other interesting scenario is Foles/Wentz in Phili, but ill let that play out to make a guess as to what happens. 

 

Lmk if I'm missing anyone

 

If Tyrod goes to Baltimore, what happens to RGIII?

[dakrider]

3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

To this point I don't see any indication Eli Manning is contemplating retirement.  There's a connection to Jacksonville with Couglin.  Buyers should be wary of Foles.  My suspicion is that his success with the Eagles is purely situational and whether his game can translate to another team is questionable.  And we don't know for sure the Eagles will move him as we don't know what's going on with Wentz as this is his second major injury in two seasons.   I don't think the Broncos are satisfied with Keenum so I'd add them to teams looking to upgrade or change.  Wonder if Elway regrets passing on Josh Allen or Josh Rosen when both were there for him?  Maybe Flacco to Washington?  This would eliminate the need to uproot and move as its not a very far drive from Baltimore.  I don't see the 49ers trading Mullens as he's a cheap, young back up.  Maybe throw in the Raiders as you never know what Gruden is thinking so maybe Carr will be in play too. 

 

Other teams that need to start thinking about the future soon.  Chargers, Patriots, Lions as Stafford really hasn't done anything for them the past several seasons.  

 

What's great is the Bills are not on the list.  For the first time in a long time they are set at the QB spot going into the off season with Allen, Barkley, and Anderson.  They have some needs to address elsewhere on offense and defense but they are at positions. 

Elway couldn't take the chance on them after his Paxton Lynch debacle.  Plus they wanted a QB to try and win now.  Their stuck with Keenum and his contract for 2019.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

21 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

You almost have to gut the team to keep Foles though - I'm not sure Pederson would want to do that.  At the very least you're cutting your starting LT in Peters, and probably trading Agholor for... nothing (and they already lose Tate).  Might have to move on from Bennett or Long (not ideal when you already lose Graham), and possibly Kelce.  Doing all that allows you to keep both QBs, add some depth players, and maybe make a play to sign some contributors in free agency.  Free Agents make more money than the guys you have though so its tough.  

 

Agholor, Peters, and Long are the likely trio i would move on from.  9 million seems to be a lot for a slot receiver who hasn't had that good of production, Peters is 36 and banged up a lot, and Long isn't worth the contract.

 

This assumes that Foles wants to stay, and is fine with playing without an extension (incredibly unlikely).

 

 

I think if they agree to the option it's easier to negotiate an extension - it wouldn't have the same limitations that a franchise tag has where the extension has to be met by a certain time.  Foles can also just opt out for 2 mil and just sign where he wants and leave philly with nothing unless they tag.  

 

Oh I’m assuming they move one if they keep the other,

 

trading Wentz would bring loads of collateral to build and maintain a team.  

 

Keeping Foles kills the cap but see above.

 

its just not an easy call

 

Both are late 20’s so could play for a decade or more. 

[RyanC883]

As long as Bridgewater is not in MIA, I don't care.  I think he has the most talent of that group.

 

Here are my predictions:

 

Manning: Stays with Giants.  They may bring in competition, but no way they let a vet walk when they have Barkely.  Without a good QB draft, the replacement for Manning is no better than Manning. 

Flacco:  Jacksonville. 

Tannehill:  Washington. 

Tyrod: NYG, Manning's backup. 

Bridewater: Denver.  Denver finally hits on a FA QB. 

Foles:Miami.   NO way Eagles trade him to an  NFC team and have him pull a "Foles" on them in the Playoffs!

 

[Rufridr101]

If I'm the eagles I try and trade wentz to the raiders and keep foles. Jacksonville coaches and management hate throwing plus turnovers tyrod makes sense.  Joe flaco fits best with giants if manning leaves because of the long ball. Tannehill seems like a fit to Washington. Derek Carr to Miami.