YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 hours ago, buffalobillswin said: God I would love to get a running back who runs vertical instead of horizontal Was never a problem in his whole career until this year. I won't believe Shady is done until he has a much better oline around him and still doesn't do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 people are really mad about this comment? if you are mad about this, you need to check yourself. Shady is saying nothing but truth, his oline SUCKED SUCKED SUCKED all year. Did he have a great year? No, but there were also literally zero holes to run through, the only reason any RB had "success" (none did) was because they lowered their head and plowed through the backs of their olineman for 3-4 yards if they were lucky. Thats not Shady's game, and not what we pay him for. All of our RBs for the foreseeable future (shady will be part of that) need a better offense line. We need 3 new starters AT LEAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't stop billievein Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: Perhaps a title change is in order. Maybe something like, "Shady Impressed With Alabama's O Line." It was more for the pun than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Even as bad as the Bama OL was last night, they'd still be an improvement over what the Bills have. But maybe we should be talking about Clemson's OL instead? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 This is just McCoy's way of staying relevant. Everybody knows that 30 is the new 50 for running backs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: I strongly disagree with this. Watching the games specifically for this, he just didn't get holes. At all. Sure he could have got 1-3 extra yards on a lot of his runs if he just took what he could get, but he never did that. I don't think Shady of any year would have had a substantial more amount of yards. If you count when he had zero hole at all, stopped and reversed his field, and may have had more acceleration in his earlier years to escape the next guy right on him and turn the corner, sure, he would have done that a few more times. But the vast, vast majority of his carries, IMO, he was dead man running, almost immediately. He may have had a substantial hole ten times the entire year. Shady didn't have holes to run through. But neither did the other backs. What they did differently is hit the hole hard or whatever miniscule gap that opened and get what they could get. Maybe they got two or three years, or got stonewalled at the line of scrimmage. But that was certainly better than dancing around and trying to manufacture something that usually ended in a loss. We both agree that our OL was atrocious. But what was also evident to me was that Shady was a diminished player. That shouldn't be surprising because he has outlived the usual lifespan of a back. At this late stage in his career I see him more of a change of pace back and a receiving back. Most everyone agrees that our line needs to be dramatically upgraded. What I would also like to see added is a hard-running between the tackles back i.e. a young Ivory type back. The priority this offseason is putting Josh Allen in a better position to succeed. Upgrading the OL and adding a featured tough running back will help to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Man. I don’t understand why people would criticize their own team like this. I guess they need something to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The funniest thing about this thread is that the Bills have 3 starting OL who are UFAs. Which means they’ll need to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: DRAFT CLENIN FERRELL. This guy could change the complexion of our defense. Those are the plays in the redzone where a stud defensive lineman steps up and makes a play. He's stealing the lunch money of that vaunted Bama OL. Exactly. Bama’s O-line wasn’t too convincing last night...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Social media strikes again. Just don’t press send, even if it’s true. Something to be said for keeping beefs in house and presenting a united front to the outside. Didn’t hear Josh ever say peep about the line negatively even though he couldn’t have been blamed if he had, right? Also, what will be Shady’s excuse if next year his production remains stunted behind 3-4 new starters on the line? That they haven’t been able to “gel” properly? Sometimes you have to create your own opportunities and not fall down the second your jersey gets sniffed by a D tackle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: I'll throw shade at them. I just want five of those linemen. + 10 SHADE SHADE SHADE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The fact that our OL was so terrible opening holes last years + shady turning 30 = the notion that shady is done......which isn’t true, he’s still a very good rb. I’d be pissed if I were him. If we was on Pittsburgh this season he’d have had a better season than Connor imo. He still makes people miss, it’s just he’s not facing as many 1 on 1 battles, he’s getting swarmed in the backfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Yeah. What ever happened to that story? I dunno, I'm just glad they listened to the folks who said to cut Shady before it all came crashing down on him and made the Bills look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Yeah. What ever happened to that story? Bob Mueller's working on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I wouldn't say it was an insult, but it was a slight. You can praise the Alabama O line without saying it quite like that. That big Bama O-line also got beat! But there were several plays this year where he got hit in the backfield. So they deserve a slight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, dakrider said: I wouldn't say it was an insult, but it was a slight. You can praise the Alabama O line without saying it quite like that. That big Bama O-line also got beat! But there were several plays this year where he got hit in the backfield. So they deserve a slight. Why not say it like that? The OL sucked last year. And 3 of its starting players, the ones at whom Shady is throwing shade, are now UFAs and unlikely to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Doc said: Even as bad as the Bama OL was last night, they'd still be an improvement over what the Bills have. But maybe we should be talking about Clemson's OL instead? And that's why you don't draft Jonah Williams in the top ten. He did not look good against NFL quality defenders like Ferrell. I myself thing that Williams could be an all pro at center. He is not an NFL quality left tackle and I think he would struggle on the right as well. I believe his skills translate best to center. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: Why not say it like that? The OL sucked last year. And 3 of its starting players, the ones at whom Shady is throwing shade, are now UFAs and unlikely to return. What would Shady’s reaction be if one of his teammates tweeted out something similar about wanting a RB who is worth his salary? Shady isnt worth anything near $9 mil, doesn’t mean his teammates should be pointing it out, in a passive aggressive manner, on social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: And that's why you don't draft Jonah Williams in the top ten. He did not look good against NFL quality defenders like Ferrell. I myself thing that Williams could be an all pro at center. He is not an NFL quality left tackle and I think he would struggle on the right as well. I believe his skills translate best to center. I agree on Jonah Williams. Hopefully the Jets still take him. But drafting him high and making a position switch would be a risky move. 18 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: What would Shady’s reaction be if one of his teammates tweeted out something similar about wanting a RB who is worth his salary? Shady isnt worth anything near $9 mil, doesn’t mean his teammates should be pointing it out, in a passive aggressive manner, on social media. Sure he's not worth $9M...behind an OL like what the Bills fielded this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 14 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Oh so hes being honest with them. That's a crime in today's society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: And that's why you don't draft Jonah Williams in the top ten. He did not look good against NFL quality defenders like Ferrell. I myself thing that Williams could be an all pro at center. He is not an NFL quality left tackle and I think he would struggle on the right as well. I believe his skills translate best to center. Ferrell stole Williams lunch money when they were lined up one on one. I think Williams slides down to the bottom portion of round 1 when it's all said and done. He's definitely not a left tackle. Could very well be an all pro center, but that uncertainly will diminish his stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 14 hours ago, Baba Booey said: Jacobs would be nice. First rounder unfortunately. Damien Harris is in play at 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Ferrell stole Williams lunch money when they were lined up one on one. I think Williams slides down to the bottom portion of round 1 when it's all said and done. He's definitely not a left tackle. Could very well be an all pro center, but that uncertainly will diminish his stock. And that's the thing, sure I like Ferrell a lot. But how is Williams going to handle the Von Millers, Joey Bosas, JJ Watts, Demarcus Lawrences, Khalil Macks etc etc etc. Jerry Hughes would embarrass him in practice. I do think that inside at center his technique and footwork would help him and his intelligence and leadership traits could go a long way. His flaws against speed rushers can kind of be hidden there. I would not touch him in the top ten, but back end of the first makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: That's a crime in today's society. And possibly an act of racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: There is just a certain standard of professionalism you would hope to expect from a veteran and team leader. At some point he needed to Pivot from being Shady to LeSean McCoy. Shame it never happened and probably never will. HOW can he though??? I was saying last year Marlon Mack is really perfect for the Colts... great runner, great pass catcher for the $$$ So, this is Marlon Mack in 2017 and 2018: 2017: 358 yards rushing, 3.8 YPC, 3 TDs. 2018: 908 yards rushing, 4.7 YPC, 9 TDs How many Colts offensive linemen played/are playing in the Pro Bowl last year as compared to this year? Up from ZERO to TWO. When the Bills ran the ball well, it was in games we were completely out of. The Colts have been playing virtual playoff games for weeks and Mack is lighting it up with multiple 100 yard games rushing. Offensive line MAKES A DIFFERENCE... and it's why we can't throw up our hands and say Shady is done. Edited January 8, 2019 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 15 hours ago, K-9 said: Complimenting other OLineman is not the same as insulting your own. I should try using that logic with my wife when I see another pretty woman. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: HOW can he though??? I was saying last year Marlon Mack is really perfect for the Colts... great runner, great passer for the $$$ So, this is Marlon Mack in 2017 and 2018: 2017: 358 yards rushing, 3.8 YPC, 3 TDs. 2018: 908 yards rushing, 4.7 YPC, 9 TDs How many Colts offensive linemen played/are playing in the Pro Bowl last year as compared to this year? Up from ZERO to TWO. When the Bills ran the ball well, it was in games we were completely out of. The Colts have been playing virtual playoff games for weeks and Mack is lighting it up. Offensive line MAKES A DIFFERENCE... and it's why we can't throw up our hands and say Shady is done. The line is a huge factor but IIRC Mack was hurt off and on for the majority of last season. He got at some point this season and he looks night in day compared to how he ran before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: When the Bills ran the ball well, it was in games we were completely out of. The Colts have been playing virtual playoff games for weeks and Mack is lighting it up with multiple 100 yard games rushing. Offensive line MAKES A DIFFERENCE... and it's why we can't throw up our hands and say Shady is done. It is virtually a given that adding good OLinemen will help the running game. But what we don't know is if Shady will suddenly become a big weapon behind a better OL , older by 2 years compared to 2017. We should add another RB with our 3rd or 4th round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Maybe we just forgo the draft altogether. That way, none of the current players will get their feelings hurt when we draft someone at their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: I'll throw shade at them. I just want five of those linemen. 100 percent right- not one lineman is a bonified starter right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'll throw shade just as soon as I catch my shadow!!!! I'll throw shade just as soon as I catch my shadow!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: It is virtually a given that adding good OLinemen will help the running game. But what we don't know is if Shady will suddenly become a big weapon behind a better OL , older by 2 years compared to 2017. We should add another RB with our 3rd or 4th round pick Yup. Have to plan for life post-Shady. But upgrading the OL is the #1 priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Clemson's DL dominated and they were missing Dexter Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 17 hours ago, buffalobillswin said: God I would love to get a running back who runs vertical instead of horizontal You weren't saying that in 2015, '16 & '17 when he was carrying this team on his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I feel like there is too much being read into this. Sounded like a compliment to the players playing. I understand that it could also be rationally looked at as a backhanded comment, but I think you'd be giving LeSean too much credit in doing so, he doesn't appear to put that level of thought into his social media game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 51 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: You weren't saying that in 2015, '16 & '17 when he was carrying this team on his back. Except he didn't The Clemson oline outplayed the Bama oline by quite a bit. So lets not have Shady for GM any time soon Given his position with the team, he clearly is insulting the oline. Some RBs buy their online cars in the off-season. Shady seeks out their replacement. I am not saying he is wrong, because all five should be replaced, but it is absurd to say he isn't directly insulting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: I should try using that logic with my wife when I see another pretty woman. ? Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Shady throwing shade? That’s shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Idandria said: Shady throwing shade? That’s shady. Shady throwing shade at blockers who couldn't block sunlight. That's, like, meta-irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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