BillsFan1988 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I'll be honest i wasn't a Allen guy when we drafted him. Matter of fact i hated the pk and thought he would be a complete bust. I kept thinking about the Mahomes trade that seemed to be a disaster for us. Wow have things changed . I will admit now i am a believer in Allen future and the future of this franchise. Its gonna be a really exciting offseason. My question is at some point in his career can Allen achieve this crazy Lebron James esqe numbers. What we have seen from Allen so far is not even scratch in the surface of what he can develop into. I realize he still has many flaws in his game that he needs to work on and defenses will adjust to what he does best. But if he hits his peak upside i think this type of season is very possible for him to achieve and if he does he would be the first NFL QB to ever do it. 250yds passing a gm and 62yds rushing will do it. The question is can he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 THATS A TALL TASK. It is possible, but I don´t think it has been donde before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 If he did that, you'll see him on cereal boxes, sports drinks, shoe commercials etc.... That's a legendary season and you would hear rumors that Victoria's Secret models spending some time with Mr. Allen... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Don't know but he is the best running QB in the NFL...Lamar Jackson led QB's in rushing this year with about 50 more yards than Allen had but he did on 52 more carries. Jackson is basically a RB who plays QB...dude had almost as many carries as he did pass attempts...not sure why everyone is so high on him...you want to talk about a watered down offense and what he was being asked to do?? It was Tebow like in how they took away his need to play big boy QB... Edited January 3, 2019 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Doubtful, but I do believe he could contend for the highest combined passing and rushing QB in terms of both yardage and TD's in a few years. I happen to believe if the right pieces are put in place he will end up being over 4500 yards passing a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 No. I don’t think Allen will ever pass for 4000 yards with the Bills. The fifteen rushing TDs might actually be attainable; he’ll be short of 1000 yds rushing in any season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) He could do it, but I'd prefer him not rushing for 1000 yards. Way too easy to get injured. Rather have a stout OL and he throw for over 4000 yards. Granted, we need someone to catch the ball, too, but whatever..... McBean will get that done!! Edited January 3, 2019 by Houston's #1 Bills Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: No. I don’t think Allen will ever pass for 4000 yards with the Bills. The fifteen rushing TDs might actually be attainable; he’ll be short of 1000 yds rushing in any season. Oh, I think hes going to be up there with the league leaders in passing yards in the next few years. His skill set I think will portend to a very explosive offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 ... sure why not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Next question, make it a good one... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 That would be insane..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 i think 250 yards passing and 60 yards rushing a game is def a real possiblity. it would be pretty hard to stay healthy as a qb while rushing for 1k imo. i think with better weapons and offensive line play he would rush quite a bit less as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 I think its tough but i dont think we've seen a talent quite like Allen. If he is gonna be great or amongst the greats he gonna do things people dont expect is possible. I havent done the numbers but im pretty sure since he came bk from injury his rushing #s per gm are well over 62 now i realize he barely cracks over 200 passing but he's just a rookie and has help on the way via the draft and free agency. If Allen does achieve something like this i do expect him to do it within his first 7 seasons in NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 If he averaged 8 YPA and 6 YPC that would be 750 total attempts before sacks (and a 6% TD%), and nobody since 2015 has hit that number in a season. Big Ben hit 730 this year, but that was with 675 pass attempts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Don't know but he is the best running QB in the NFL...Lamar Jackson led QB's in rushing this year with about 50 more yards than Allen had but he did on 52 more carries. Jackson is basically a RB who plays QB...dude had almost as many carries as he did pass attempts...not sure why everyone is so high on him...you want to talk about a watered down offense and what he was being asked to do?? It was Tebow like in how they took away his need to play big boy QB... I dont think I even watched a full game of his this year, but if this is the case, they can expect the Tyrod treatment next year from teams. No pass rush, just playing contain with their DL and LBs. Edited January 3, 2019 by Captain_Quint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Oh come on. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I would definitely say no for next season. And probably no for any season in his career. I would expect this years rushing total to be the best he’ll ever do in his career. As he becomes a better passer he won’t run anywhere near as much, keep in mind a lot of his runs this season he missed reads and open guys on the field. As he progresses into a better passer (we hope) those running opportunities should go way down. Also let’s keep in mind his running style is not sustainable. He already had an injury and missed games this season (not from a rushing play) but that’s too much wear and tear on your potential franchise player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 That’s a Madden season. And if Allen is running that much still, he will get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s a Madden season. And if Allen is running that much still, he will get hurt. Thats a 80 plays on offense per game type season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 If he does do it i hope its within the framework of the offense and not by running draw plays 10- 15 times a gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, Chris66 said: Thats a 80 plays on offense per game type season Yeah, it’s a bit crazy. All that running around catches up to even the biggest and fastest guys. See Cam Newton the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 "Can Allen Pass for 4000yds 30TDs and 1000 Rushing yds and 15TDs in the same season?" Sure, if the O-Line doesn't improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) It would be hard. The 1000 yards rushing got me because I want a 1300 running back and for Allen and the Running back to have a 1000 would be 2300 rushing yards total which i don’t see happening. But if he did though it would be legendary Edited January 3, 2019 by Protocal69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4000 yds = 250 per game - Possibly 30 TDs = 1.875 per game - Possibly 1000 Rushing yds = 62.5 per game - Probably not. I'd say closer to 500 to 600 15 TD = .94 per game - Plausible. I'd say closer to 8 to 10 on goal line stances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Is the NFL going to mandate Bills opponents feature defenses consisting of HS varsity players next year? If so, yes, I think he can do it. As long as he has NFL players to throw to that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Is the NFL going to mandate Bills opponents feature defenses consisting of HS varsity players next year? If so, yes, I think he can do it. As long as he has NFL players to throw to that is. Factor in 1/2 of all the dropped passes from Josh and I'd bet he's close to 220 per game as a rookie. He had 173 ypg. its got to be an easy 50 ypg in drops. Look at Mitch Trubisky. Last year 180 ypg and 230 in 2018. It can happen Edited January 3, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 What’s stopping him there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000 Monte Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 If we play Miami every week, yes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Not likely......you really dont want him running for 1000 yards. Other than it would be cool, its not a good plan, he needs to stay healthy and throw for 4500 while running for 500 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: What’s stopping him there? I wouldn't say anything is stopping him as much as his natural progression leaning towards scrambling to throw as opposed to run downfield as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 nah ... even a career 'Grand Slam' would be tough, given those goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 It’s such a stupid question but it’s actually really possible. He’s got that type of talent. Needs some good help though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 If he can lets hope it's next year. Lets also hope they don't forget defense and we look like the Ravens or the 49ers with Kaepernick and make a run of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I hope so because with those stats we would probably be 15-1 and Allen would be NFL MVP. I believe he get close to 4000 yards next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Too early to speculate about stuff like that, for me at least.WEhen he has a 300 yard game, I'll give it some thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I’ll change my name to Josh Allen if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Not quite for Josh in 2019 My guess here assuming 16 games played 225 yds/game passing = 3600 yds for 2019 1.5 TDs thrown/game = 24 TDs passing 50 ypg rushing on 8 carries/gm = 800 yds rushing in 2019 .75 TD rushing/game = 12 Rushing TDs on the year. So 4400 yds total vs 2700 yds or 63% more due to more games played and slight increase per game. Coupled with 36 total TDs, which would be double what he generated this year. Edited January 3, 2019 by freddyjj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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