Virgil Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 First off, let me just say how incredibly rare NFL talent is. If you think about the how many kids play in High School, then College, and how few are considered to be NFL ready, it's a truly rare breed. To think that there isn't ONE legitimate offensive star coming out of this draft out of how many Div 1 schools? It's crazy if you think about it. Free Agents WR - Chris Conley (finishing his rookie deal. Doesn't have huge stats, but has size and speed) WR - Kevin White (he's going to have to settle for a one year, prove it deal. Huge boom or bust) WR - Tyrell Williams (solid #2 out of San Diego who has the size and speed of a number 1. May not be a true number one, but would command enough attention to let Foster or Zay do their thing) TE - Jared Cook (#1 receiver on Oakland. 32 years old, but a true pass catcher. Played under a 2 year, 10 mil contract. Would be a huge boost in the interim) RT - Daryl Williams (From Carolina. What more is there to say?) C - Matt Paradis And here's where I lose all credibility. IF, and I only mean IF, you can get him a front loaded contract with a safe out-clause after 3 years.......... RB - Bell. Hear me out. He's still incredibly young, has good speed, and proven performance. I admit, he has red flags with the suspensions and how well is backup played in the same system. But the big thing to me is more about Josh Allen. Bell is a genuine threat out of the backfield as a pass catcher. He can be the check down player Allen needs. Also, we have 90 mil to spend and there really isn't a lot of players to spend it on. So if Bell wants his money, give it to him up front. Pay him a bunch in the first 3 years before he's 29 and then have it be more team friendly. It's not our money. Whatever money is left, let McDermott go crazy on defensive players. In the draft, we can still get the WR out of UB and offensive lineman depth. End result, imagine this lineup on the field QB - Allen RB - Bell FB - DiMarco WR - Williams WR - Conley WR - Zay WR - Foster TE - Cook LT - Dawkins LG - Teller C - Paradis RG - Draft RT - Williams To me, that's an offense that I would expect production from weekly. Allen would have weapons all over the field. Yes, it's a little Madden, but it's not crazy with the money we have to spend. Flame away 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I too would expect production from having 13 players on the field on offense 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, Bangarang said: I too would expect production from having 13 players on the field on offense We are playing Canadian rules. No one told you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 White is a complete bust - pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, Virgil said: First off, let me just say how incredibly rare NFL talent is. If you think about the how many kids play in High School, then College, and how few are considered to be NFL ready, it's a truly rare breed. To think that there isn't ONE legitimate offensive star coming out of this draft out of how many Div 1 schools? It's crazy if you think about it. Free Agents WR - Chris Conley (finishing his rookie deal. Doesn't have huge stats, but has size and speed) WR - Kevin White (he's going to have to settle for a one year, prove it deal. Huge boom or bust) WR - Tyrell Williams (solid #2 out of San Diego who has the size and speed of a number 1. May not be a true number one, but would command enough attention to let Foster or Zay do their thing) TE - Jared Cook (#1 receiver on Oakland. 32 years old, but a true pass catcher. Played under a 2 year, 10 mil contract. Would be a huge boost in the interim) RT - Daryl Williams (From Carolina. What more is there to say?) C - Matt Paradis And here's where I lose all credibility. IF, and I only mean IF, you can get him a front loaded contract with a safe out-clause after 3 years.......... RB - Bell. Hear me out. He's still incredibly young, has good speed, and proven performance. I admit, he has red flags with the suspensions and how well is backup played in the same system. But the big thing to me is more about Josh Allen. Bell is a genuine threat out of the backfield as a pass catcher. He can be the check down player Allen needs. Also, we have 90 mil to spend and there really isn't a lot of players to spend it on. So if Bell wants his money, give it to him up front. Pay him a bunch in the first 3 years before he's 29 and then have it be more team friendly. It's not our money. Whatever money is left, let McDermott go crazy on defensive players. In the draft, we can still get the WR out of UB and offensive lineman depth. End result, imagine this lineup on the field QB - Allen RB - Bell FB - DiMarco WR - Williams WR - Conley WR - Zay WR - Foster TE - Cook LT - Dawkins LG - Teller C - Paradis RG - Draft RT - Williams To me, that's an offense that I would expect production from weekly. Allen would have weapons all over the field. Yes, it's a little Madden, but it's not crazy with the money we have to spend. Flame away Other than White (bust, waste of time at this point), Cook (would command too much money, and is getting up there in age) and Bell (I'd rather stick with Shady another year, and draft a replacement in rounds 2-5, than spend this money), I like your other picks. Conely and Tyrell WIlliams are both intriguing for me...both could likely be had for resonable prices, and both still have upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Thanks for the topic... Would love Pardis, and Tyrell Williams would be a solid get.. Your right guard in the draft might be Chris Lindstrom at the top of the 2nd round.. i cannot see Bell playing in Buffalo- I think he will go where the most money is on offer and that won’t be here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Cook never crossed my mind because I assume the Raiders will resign him given he's having a career year, but I'd be more than happy to upgrade the TE position even if it means overpaying for him as we'd save some money cutting Clay. Kevin White is too injury prone and a bust while playing. He was a healthy scratch against us this year so I'll pass. By signaling he wants to go to the Colts Bell has his eye clearly on both money and the best fit for him to put up monster stats. We can provide the former but not the latter. If his market comes down some then maybe we should consider it as he is a special running back with a QB on his rookie contract, but I'd rather see us spend FA money on OL, WR, DE, and MLB (move Edmunds to OLB). I'd love the Bills to sign Ajayi and have Shady play as a 3rd down change of pace back. CJ Anderson is another option or hoping a late RB draft pick this year turns into a stud. I'm on board for Williams (WR), Williams (OT), and Paradis (assuming his health checks out). Will have to overpay for all because we're the Bills. Edited December 28, 2018 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff1954 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Unfortunately there are a lot of other teams wanting to attract these same players. If we could score just Conley and Paradise from free agency, and draft Williams at Left tackle, we would probably have done as well as we could reasonably have hoped. Then draft two more O line, a running back and wide receiver in rounds two to five. Edited December 28, 2018 by Jeff1954 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Even 'Kevin White' knows he's a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Virgil said: IF, and I only mean IF, you can get him a front loaded contract with a safe out-clause after 3 years.......... RB - Bell. Hear me out. He's still incredibly young, has good speed, and proven performance. I admit, he has red flags with the suspensions and how well is backup played in the same system. But the big thing to me is more about Josh Allen. Bell is a genuine threat out of the backfield as a pass catcher. He can be the check down player Allen needs. Also, we have 90 mil to spend and there really isn't a lot of players to spend it on. So if Bell wants his money, give it to him up front. Pay him a bunch in the first 3 years before he's 29 and then have it be more team friendly. It's not our money. Gimme Gimme Gimme Bell. Dude can play football.. anywhere on the field. Great for JA. Doesn't need a juggernaut OL. Blocks, catches, finesse, power. We got money to spend and as you listed 7 FA's to sign with tons still to spare, none are proven All-Pros except Bell. All for putting in a high bid for a short term deal. Immediately kickstarts our offense and hides a lot of problems. Between him and JA, they'd make the offense look competent overnight. And the Steelers look like absolute morons for how they've handled this season (everything. Not just Bell). Easy meltdown to see coming early on between Ben and Tomlin.. Acting as if James Connor can't get hurt. Don't see a character issue wanting to get out of that nightmare. Can totally see him going to the Colts. Fits like a glove there. Edited December 28, 2018 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 It wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills make a stronger than expected run at Bell simply because with his pass catching ability, the Bills may not need to invest the serious $$$ into the WR and TE positions in free agency that they might have to otherwise. A Bell/McCoy backfield tandem has some interesting potential. (I have no issue keeping Lesean McCoy on the roster.) I like your Paradis pick. I wouldn't invest resources in free agents on the wrong side of 30 - especially 32 year old TEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Virgil said: First off, let me just say how incredibly rare NFL talent is. If you think about the how many kids play in High School, then College, and how few are considered to be NFL ready, it's a truly rare breed. To think that there isn't ONE legitimate offensive star coming out of this draft out of how many Div 1 schools? It's crazy if you think about it. Free Agents WR - Chris Conley (finishing his rookie deal. Doesn't have huge stats, but has size and speed) WR - Kevin White (he's going to have to settle for a one year, prove it deal. Huge boom or bust) WR - Tyrell Williams (solid #2 out of San Diego who has the size and speed of a number 1. May not be a true number one, but would command enough attention to let Foster or Zay do their thing) WR: I'd take Kevin White on a prove-it deal, T. Williams would be nice, I'd rather have Golden Tate given past production. Chris Conley I'm lukewarm on. I'd also consider Eli Rodgers from the Steelers as another cheap WR. 9 hours ago, Virgil said: TE - Jared Cook (#1 receiver on Oakland. 32 years old, but a true pass catcher. Played under a 2 year, 10 mil contract. Would be a huge boost in the interim) Cook would be nice. I'd take him, or my ideal combo of Eifert (should be cheaper due to injury concerns) and Jesse James--a great all-around TE. RT - Daryl Williams (From Carolina. What more is there to say?) C - Matt Paradis Yes. This has to happen. Getting Allen a vet Center, with Bodine as a backup will be very beneficial to him. And here's where I lose all credibility. IF, and I only mean IF, you can get him a front loaded contract with a safe out-clause after 3 years.......... RB - Bell. Hear me out. He's still incredibly young, has good speed, and proven performance. I admit, he has red flags with the suspensions and how well is backup played in the same system. But the big thing to me is more about Josh Allen. Bell is a genuine threat out of the backfield as a pass catcher. He can be the check down player Allen needs. Also, we have 90 mil to spend and there really isn't a lot of players to spend it on. So if Bell wants his money, give it to him up front. Pay him a bunch in the first 3 years before he's 29 and then have it be more team friendly. It's not our money. Whatever money is left, let McDermott go crazy on defensive players. In the draft, we can still get the WR out of UB and offensive lineman depth. I enjoy the defense of Bell, but he hesitates then hits the hole. Here, that will result in -5 yards every carry. I'd take Coleman in FA, and draft someone who fits a Bell profile. Bell was a great beneficiary of the Steelers fantastic O-line. (look at Sanders, who never was a true RB before, lighting it up behind that line). 9 hours ago, Virgil said: End result, imagine this lineup on the field QB - Allen RB - Bell FB - DiMarco WR - Williams WR - Conley WR - Zay WR - Foster TE - Cook LT - Dawkins LG - Teller C - Paradis RG - Draft RT - Williams To me, that's an offense that I would expect production from weekly. Allen would have weapons all over the field. Yes, it's a little Madden, but it's not crazy with the money we have to spend. Flame away Love this. I'll add my suggestions above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I love the idea of Bell (he is significantly better than Conner, in my opinion), but IIRC the Jets have more cap space than us and allegedly want him a lot. He'll choose NY over Buffalo for the obvious reasons if it comes to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: WR: I'd take Kevin White on a prove-it deal, T. Williams would be nice, I'd rather have Golden Tate given past production. Chris Conley I'm lukewarm on. I'd also consider Eli Rodgers from the Steelers as another cheap WR. I enjoy the defense of Bell, but he hesitates then hits the hole. Here, that will result in -5 yards every carry. I'd take Coleman in FA, and draft someone who fits a Bell profile. Bell was a great beneficiary of the Steelers fantastic O-line. (look at Sanders, who never was a true RB before, lighting it up behind that line). Love this. I'll add my suggestions above! We need height at WR. Watching Allen throw up a ball to Foster was embarrassing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Thanks for the topic... Would love Pardis, and Tyrell Williams would be a solid get.. Your right guard in the draft might be Chris Lindstrom at the top of the 2nd round.. i cannot see Bell playing in Buffalo- I think he will go where the most money is on offer and that won’t be here.. Is anyone of us not leaning forward in our chairs and getting excited over the possibility of signing Paridis? Do a number of other moves, but this is one of those that appears to be a MUST to me...and crushing if the Jets get him. Sorry, don't know who the Jets current starting C is. EDIT: I want to sign a C or draft/sign a T that I don't ever have to think about again until there contract is over. I know many of you want a G, too. However, I don't want to appear too greedy and jinx my first two options. Edited December 28, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Golden Tate Jermaine Kearse Tyler Kroft Quinton Spain Mitch Morse Ja'Wuan James QB: Josh Allen, Matt Barkley RB: Lesean McCoy, Chris Ivory, Marcus Murphy, Keith Ford WR-X: Golden Tate WR-Z: Robert Foster, Isaiah McKenzie WR-Slot: Jermaine Kearse, Zay Jones TE: Tyler Croft, Jason Croom LT: Dion Dawkins, Ike Boettger LG: Quinton Spain, Vlad Ducasse C - Mitch Morse RG: Wyatt Teller, Vlad Ducasse RT: Ja'Wuan James, Ike Boettger Draft a WR you think can eventually step into WR-X (Metcalf, Harmon, Johnson, etc.), some OL Depth, and maybe a TE. 2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Is anyone of us not leaning forward in our chairs and getting excited over the possibility of signing Paridis? I don't think he makes it to FA, so not excited at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Golden Tate Jermaine Kearse Tyler Kroft Quinton Spain Mitch Morse Ja'Wuan James QB: Josh Allen, Matt Barkley RB: Lesean McCoy, Chris Ivory, Marcus Murphy, Keith Ford WR-X: Golden Tate WR-Z: Robert Foster, Isaiah McKenzie WR-Slot: Jermaine Kearse, Zay Jones TE: Tyler Croft, Jason Croom LT: Dion Dawkins, Ike Boettger LG: Quinton Spain, Vlad Ducasse C - Mitch Morse RG: Wyatt Teller, Vlad Ducasse RT: Ja'Wuan James, Ike Boettger Draft a WR you think can eventually step into WR-X (Metcalf, Harmon, Johnson, etc.), some OL Depth, and maybe a TE. I don't think he makes it to FA, so not excited at this point. I'd sorta like to move Dawkins inside to LG and draft a potentially better LT as I think Dawkins is just okay there. Not sure if Jonah Williams or Greg Little are worth taking a chance on in the draft though. In general, I like your thinking. Personally, I like Metcalf if his neck injury is not a perduring issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Virgil said: We need height at WR. Watching Allen throw up a ball to Foster was embarrassing. we do need height, although fast height. I like DJax because he alleges that no QB can outthrow him. plus, him, T. Williams, and Foster and Zay would be hard to cover. I'd take T. Williams if we go tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I think with the cap space and 10 draft picks you may see them go after someone like RFA Rashard Higgins WR Cleveland. Solid Slot receiver who can play outside when asked. Draft a round 2 WR, someone like Preston Williams WR Colorado St or Hakeem Butler WR Iowa St. Foster Zay Higgins Williams McKenzie If not a WR round 2 someone like TJ Hockenson TE Iowa. RBs I like Josh Jacobs & LJ Scott FA Oline C Paradis/Morse, OT Juwaun James With Kyle leaving I bet round 1 is best defensive Player available. Josh Allen, Devin White, Ed Oliver, Derek Brown, Jeffery Simmons, Rashan Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I'd sorta like to move Dawkins inside to LG and draft a potentially better LT as I think Dawkins is just okay there. Not sure if Jonah Williams or Greg Little are worth taking a chance on in the draft though. In general, I like your thinking. Personally, I like Metcalf if his neck injury is not a perduring issue. Ideally I'd agree, but FA is before the draft so you can't let what you want to happen in the draft dictate your FA signings. I'm not so high on Jonah, and think he's better suited for guard (like Dawkins). I'm not sure Greg Little loves football. If he does I would certainly be interested in him depending on who is left when we pick. If FA played out like I outlined above I'd go for pass rush in round 1 and WR in round 2, assuming the value is there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Bangarang said: I too would expect production from having 13 players on the field on offense The sad part is we could have two extra receivers running wild and with how bad our O-line is we still wouldn’t get much more production on offense lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I'm on board with most of your plan, though probably would pass on the 2nd WR Conley/White and instead use a2nd day draft pick on a rookie there instead. Rest I like. As for Bell, I'd be OK wit ha short term contract, though would be shocked to see Bell take that, the only was is if he way over valued his worth and no one else in all that interested. I think he will end up in Indy, but can see him talking to the Jet's and Bills to try and drive up the offers. Like to see them trade down to get and extra 2nd and/or 3rd rounder. Then could potentially use 1str rounder on DL, 2nd on guard and WR, 3rd on RB and BPA maybe another lineman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I personally wouldn’t want bell. He screams I got 50 million guaranteed and I don’t have to ball out anymore. Of course that’s just my opinion of him. He earned his payday. No disputing that. What he does with it I’m not sold he’ll be the same player. But maybe that’s why I’m not a gm lol. I don’t have a ton of musts in free agency but I do think there needs to be a solid anchor for the offensive line. Rather it’s paradis or a rookie or whatever, there needs to be one rock solid starter who can take charge of that line for the next 4-5 years with Allen. The skill positions I don’t totally care, I’m not excited about the current crop of free agent talent. I liked the trade thoughts in the other thread today. I like possibly adding desean Jackson here. I’d trade a 6th and eat his 10 million salary for next season just to let him ball out here with Allen. He’ll be wanting to make plays and get one more decent contract next offseason. In the end though I’ll just be happy to see some steady handed guys who catch the ball at tight end , and maybe some more speed guys added in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Virgil said: First off, let me just say how incredibly rare NFL talent is. If you think about the how many kids play in High School, then College, and how few are considered to be NFL ready, it's a truly rare breed. To think that there isn't ONE legitimate offensive star coming out of this draft out of how many Div 1 schools? It's crazy if you think about it. Free Agents WR - Chris Conley (finishing his rookie deal. Doesn't have huge stats, but has size and speed) WR - Kevin White (he's going to have to settle for a one year, prove it deal. Huge boom or bust) WR - Tyrell Williams (solid #2 out of San Diego who has the size and speed of a number 1. May not be a true number one, but would command enough attention to let Foster or Zay do their thing) TE - Jared Cook (#1 receiver on Oakland. 32 years old, but a true pass catcher. Played under a 2 year, 10 mil contract. Would be a huge boost in the interim) RT - Daryl Williams (From Carolina. What more is there to say?) C - Matt Paradis And here's where I lose all credibility. IF, and I only mean IF, you can get him a front loaded contract with a safe out-clause after 3 years.......... RB - Bell. Hear me out. He's still incredibly young, has good speed, and proven performance. I admit, he has red flags with the suspensions and how well is backup played in the same system. But the big thing to me is more about Josh Allen. Bell is a genuine threat out of the backfield as a pass catcher. He can be the check down player Allen needs. Also, we have 90 mil to spend and there really isn't a lot of players to spend it on. So if Bell wants his money, give it to him up front. Pay him a bunch in the first 3 years before he's 29 and then have it be more team friendly. It's not our money. Whatever money is left, let McDermott go crazy on defensive players. In the draft, we can still get the WR out of UB and offensive lineman depth. End result, imagine this lineup on the field QB - Allen RB - Bell FB - DiMarco WR - Williams WR - Conley WR - Zay WR - Foster TE - Cook LT - Dawkins LG - Teller C - Paradis RG - Draft RT - Williams To me, that's an offense that I would expect production from weekly. Allen would have weapons all over the field. Yes, it's a little Madden, but it's not crazy with the money we have to spend. Flame away Like what you set up with a few changes. 1. No Bell. Yes he's talented, but he stands out catching the ball out of the backfield. Not really Allen's strong suit. Would not mind kicking the tires on Ajayi and seeing what his health is like. And I may try and pair him with Tevin Coleman. 2. Not big on White, not as big on Conley as you are but would be ok. Here's someone to remember: Funchess. NOT a #1, but pair him with Tyrell Williams, Robert Foster and the kid from UB...and we have something solid. 3. Cook is fine for short term if they,plan to groom the Croom. I also wouldn't mind Jesse James. 4. Like the oline additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Out of your list I'd take Tyrell Williams and Paradis in a heartbeat. T Williams would immediately be the #2 wr with Foster 3 and Zay 4. We'll still have to draft a #1 wr. Paradis would solidify the oline making Bodine/Groy depth. Bell will be too costly. You can find rbs in the mid rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Virgil Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: This is what scares me. After the deals WR’s got last year and the lack of options, dudes are going to get highly overpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: This is what scares me. After the deals WR’s got last year and the lack of options, dudes are going to get highly overpaid There's plenty of room, honestly. I put together mock contracts for all of the guys in my plan and valued them pretty fairly (imo). The 6 guys I listed have a combined 2019 cap hit of $36M, leaving $56M for re-signing our own, draft picks, and some splashes on D (based on the $92M figure I've seen floating around). And that's with Golden Tate at 3 years $36M, and Jermaine Kearse and 4 years $24M. Even if you bumped Tate to $14M AAV and Kearse to $9M AAV we'd still probably have ~$45-50M left in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Virgil said: This is what scares me. After the deals WR’s got last year and the lack of options, dudes are going to get highly overpaid It happens just about every year. The always increasing cap is a part of it as well. I like your FA choices as well. I'd pass on Bell unless he overvalued his market (which probably isn't the case, see above comments). I'd be interested in Coleman from ATL. Edited December 28, 2018 by qwksilver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I'm on board with most of your plan, though probably would pass on the 2nd WR Conley/White and instead use a2nd day draft pick on a rookie there instead. Rest I like. As for Bell, I'd be OK wit ha short term contract, though would be shocked to see Bell take that, the only was is if he way over valued his worth and no one else in all that interested. I think he will end up in Indy, but can see him talking to the Jet's and Bills to try and drive up the offers. Like to see them trade down to get and extra 2nd and/or 3rd rounder. Then could potentially use 1str rounder on DL, 2nd on guard and WR, 3rd on RB and BPA maybe another lineman? I can't disagree with this enough. They need OL bad and anything less than a first is an insult to team building. They need at least 1 tackle and 2 guards because Teller hasn't proven anything yet. WR and RB can be acquired later or through FA much easier than a LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: NYJ Official Announcement. How much will Tyrell Williams command? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I can't disagree with this enough. They need OL bad and anything less than a first is an insult to team building. They need at least 1 tackle and 2 guards because Teller hasn't proven anything yet. WR and RB can be acquired later or through FA much easier than a LT. But his plan was to draft a guard (which I also agree with) Unless you absolutely feel you need to move Dawkins elsewhere, you typically don't need to use a first rounder on a guard or a RT. Will Dawkins likely be an all pro LT probably not, but do think he's adequate particularity when you surrond him with better talent. Plus his plan was to sign a RT from Carolina, so if you want to move Dawkins and signed another RT, where you moving him to? You've pretty much completely blown up the OP's original plan which is fine, but then who else are you signing. While I agree that it's easier to sign WR and RB than LT, the question is do we need really need a LT? True Teller hasn't proved anything, but neither has any rookie you draft either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Virgil said: This is what scares me. After the deals WR’s got last year and the lack of options, dudes are going to get highly overpaid Yep. Anyone who thinks we’re going to fix our WR problems in free agency are kidding themselves. We’re going to need to draft a minimum of two WR and a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gonzo1105 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 MY biggest issue with a guy like Tyrell Williams, who I also like, is he reminds me of the Eric Decker type situations. A good # 2 guy who is going to get like 12-13 a year and be asked to be a teams # 1 when he’s not. He is allowed to be a good WR because he has Rivers throwing the ball and multiple other playmakers that take the attention off of him(Allen, Williams, Gordon, Gates). Now he’ll come to the Bills with a raw but developing QB, an aging McCoy or a rookie, Foster, McKenzie, Jones, and no TE as of right now and have all the attention on him. I think the smart play is to use the FA money on OL and Defensive issues, and draft your playmakers in the draft. WR, TE, RB in the first 3 rounds makes a lot of sense to me. It’s a stronger WR, TE draft than it is FA market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Golden Tate Jermaine Kearse Tyler Kroft Quinton Spain Mitch Morse Ja'Wuan James QB: Josh Allen, Matt Barkley RB: Lesean McCoy, Chris Ivory, Marcus Murphy, Keith Ford WR-X: Golden Tate WR-Z: Robert Foster, Isaiah McKenzie WR-Slot: Jermaine Kearse, Zay Jones TE: Tyler Croft, Jason Croom LT: Dion Dawkins, Ike Boettger LG: Quinton Spain, Vlad Ducasse C - Mitch Morse RG: Wyatt Teller, Vlad Ducasse RT: Ja'Wuan James, Ike Boettger Draft a WR you think can eventually step into WR-X (Metcalf, Harmon, Johnson, etc.), some OL Depth, and maybe a TE. I don't think he makes it to FA, so not excited at this point. yeah, he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 12 hours ago, Virgil said: TE - Jared Cook (#1 receiver on Oakland. 32 years old, but a true pass catcher. I want Jared Cook real bad. Would be great TE for Wonder Boy to throw to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: but he stands out catching the ball out of the backfield. Not really Allen's strong suit. That's a good point but at some stage, Allen has to make that a strong suit regardless, especially given how good he is with broken plays. He's not going to maximize his talent if he can't use Shady and Bell RBs like he should. Every quarterback should be able to benefit from a teammates' skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 45 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: MY biggest issue with a guy like Tyrell Williams, who I also like, is he reminds me of the Eric Decker type situations. A good # 2 guy who is going to get like 12-13 a year and be asked to be a teams # 1 when he’s not. He is allowed to be a good WR because he has Rivers throwing the ball and multiple other playmakers that take the attention off of him(Allen, Williams, Gordon, Gates). Now he’ll come to the Bills with a raw but developing QB, an aging McCoy or a rookie, Foster, McKenzie, Jones, and no TE as of right now and have all the attention on him. I think the smart play is to use the FA money on OL and Defensive issues, and draft your playmakers in the draft. WR, TE, RB in the first 3 rounds makes a lot of sense to me. It’s a stronger WR, TE draft than it is FA market I agree with your draft/fa strategy and I for one am hoping McB does make a run at Ty Williams. He's young, big and very talented. I think he would have no problem "acting" as a temporary #1 until a draft pick develops. And now that Kyle's retirement is official, McB would be well served to emphasize OL/DL in FA. Get your young wrs, rbs & tes from the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I also want Golden Gate real bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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