Phil The Thrill Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I’m just replying to posts and not saying Tre’ is a bonofied perrenial Pro Bowler As to 3 bad weeks ... I’d complain if they were scoring TD after TD on Tre. Also. The entire team has struggled with INTs. And I’m not saying he is a bad CB by any means. I just don’t think he has played at a high level with consistency the past 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I was shocked White didn't make it, dude has been good, Milano deserved it not sure if his injury impacted it. Hyde, Proyer, Hughes, Kyle, and Lorax were on the bubble could have went either way, but White is a big snub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sure. Easy-peasy. How big. I seem to recall Ramsey getting roasted and toasted He didn’t have the type of season he had last year, but he also hasn’t struggled for 3 weeks straight like White has. Sorry but at this point Ramsey is on a higher than Tre. 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I was shocked White didn't make it, dude has been good, Milano deserved it not sure if his injury impacted it. Hyde, Proyer, Hughes, Kyle, and Lorax were on the bubble could have went either way, but White is a big snub. Did you watch the last 3 Bills games? If so, re-watch them. You’ll see why he didn’t make the Pro Bowl. The problem with Poyer, Hyde, Alexander, and Kyle is that they played very well but don’t have the big numbers that jump out at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, ganesh said: Milano was playing lights out...I guess all the big scores they gave at the beginning of the season wiped out their chances. I don’t think so; think that was Peterman who helped effectively set the defense back. On the plus side the CFL isn’t touching him. Although wish we would sign Luke Tasker. 38 minutes ago, teef said: does anyone know how to fix holes in drywall? i've got a few that need fixin. Spackle my friend just a little dab will do you. Are the holes for all the picks that Peterman put out in two seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Here’s laughable Jalen Ramsey and Stephon Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Here’s laughable Jalen Ramsey and Stephon Gilmore #BetterThanTre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: #BetterThanTre Smh. Ok. that’s why he’s gone and Tre’ is in Buffalo As for Jalen have a read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Nobody watches that crap anyways. Who cares. After eighteen quarterbacks bow out of the game, Josh Allen will probably wind up representing the AFC alongside Jeff Driskel and former pro bowler Tuhrod Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: And yet Tyrod was technically a Pro Bowler when he was here... What does that tell you about the game He was an alternate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Say what you want about Tre'Davious, but there is no way in hell that Stephon Gilmore belongs in the Pro Bowl. If not Tre, somebody else got robbed of that spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 We are one of three teams that had no pro bowl selections. I am surprised no one on defense made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: Overall he has a much better year than White. He has more INT’s too. Also, when did Ramsey give up a game changing catch to Robbie Anderson on the last drive of the game? He’s a very good CB. He is not one of the top 4 in the AFC LOL. He’s hands down one of the top 4 corners in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 DeCastro and Nelson. Two guards taken in top 10. Don't tell the masses on here but it is perfectly fine to take an interior lineman in the top 10. The only downside is having to purchase playoff tickets. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven&nine Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, hemma said: Hope they take the rejection as questioning their manhood, get miserably angry & then kick the living ***** out of the Pats I will trade all future pro-bowl appearances for the Bills for one actual, counts-for-something victory against the Pats. 1 hour ago, MJS said: He was an alternate. He played. He was a "pro-bowler." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: We are one of three teams that had no pro bowl selections. I am surprised no one on defense made it. I was a bit surprised by that, but with White's recent struggles, the team has really no standout (they just play well together). Alexander is probably deserving-- but not surprising he was overlooked. Of course the defense, despite its statistical ranking, is far from elite (a big need is a strong edge rusher). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Good. It only makes guys more expensive. 26 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: DeCastro and Nelson. Two guards taken in top 10. Don't tell the masses on here but it is perfectly fine to take an interior lineman in the top 10. The only downside is having to purchase playoff tickets. Oh yes.....many experts here decried 'wasting' a first round pick on DeCastro. Seems like that worked out pretty well for Pittsburgh and their running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: DeCastro and Nelson. Two guards taken in top 10. Don't tell the masses on here but it is perfectly fine to take an interior lineman in the top 10. The only downside is having to purchase playoff tickets. DeCastro was taken 26th, and wasn't great for the 1st couple years. He is now, so good pick overall, but nowhere near Nelson when comparing rookie seasons. Edited December 19, 2018 by cle23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I'm not sure what some fans expected. The offense is filled with non-NFL caliber players -- even before injuries. Allen, McCoy, Ivory, Clay, Jones, Dawkins, and maybe Bodine are probably the only bonafide NFLers on offense, and most wouldn't be starters. Defense has better talent but no truly outstanding much less dominating players. Except for Hauschka -- who didn't get an opportunity to play in a significant game -- most of the Bills ST shouldn't even be on any NFL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Is this a surprise? There is not really any elite talent on this roster, like none. Yeah Milano had a good year before getting hurt, but the linebacker spot is more competitive for purposes of the Pro Bowl. I am still waiting for Brandon Beane to demonstrate some semblance of hope that he can scout and acquire talent. I haven't seen it. So far he has assembled one of the least-talented (maybe THE least-talented) roster in the NFL. It's really easy to orchestrate a tear-down - at some point soon he'll have to show that he can actually build something. I'm very skeptical. As I said to a buddy the other day - the construction of the Bills' 2018 roster borders on negligent homicide - and I'm the corpse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: DeCastro and Nelson. Two guards taken in top 10. Don't tell the masses on here but it is perfectly fine to take an interior lineman in the top 10. The only downside is having to purchase playoff tickets. The Pouncey twins both made the Pro Bowl, too. 5 minutes ago, cle23 said: DeCastro was taken 26th, and wasn't great for the 1st couple years. He is now, so good pick overall, but nowhere near Nelson when comparing rookie seasons. DeCastro suffered a knee injury in a preseason against the Bills IIRC, so he missed his entire rookie season, but he's been better than any guard the Bills have had during that period except for Incognito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) We're not having the season we had last year so no pub for our guys. Outside of Buffalo fans not many people know the players on our team because of this. I would have thought Milano might have been an alternate or something because he was having a good season. Either way, it really doesn't mean much. Good for Kyle though as he is nearing the end of the line. Edited December 19, 2018 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Is this a surprise? There is not really any elite talent on this roster, like none. Yeah Milano had a good year before getting hurt, but the linebacker spot is more competitive for purposes of the Pro Bowl. I am still waiting for Brandon Beane to demonstrate some semblance of hope that he can scout and acquire talent. I haven't seen it. So far he has assembled one of the least-talented (maybe THE least-talented) roster in the NFL. It's really easy to orchestrate a tear-down - at some point soon he'll have to show that he can actually build something. I'm very skeptical. As I said to a buddy the other day - the construction of the Bills' 2018 roster borders on negligent homicide - and I'm the corpse. I totally agree. Fans whining about good Bills players being "ignored" by the Pro Bowl selectors obviously don't watch other teams. The best players on the 2018 would likely be JAGs on any of the current playoff teams in either conferences. Fans expecting the Bills to become real contenders for the playoffs in 2019 are in for a rude awakening. Talent counts, and McDermott/Beane haven't shown that they can recognize talent, much less figure out how to acquire it to build a successful NFL roster. 1 minute ago, H2o said: We're not having the season we had last year so no pub for our guys. Outside of Buffalo fans not many people know the players on our team because of this. I would have thought Milano might have been an alternate or something because he was having a good season. Either way, it really doesn't mean much. Good for Kyle though as he is nearing the end of the line. Bull manure. The Bills that made the Pro Bowl for the Bills last season are either not on the roster or didn't have good years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 hours ago, 947 said: Say what you want about Tre'Davious, but there is no way in hell that Stephon Gilmore belongs in the Pro Bowl. If not Tre, somebody else got robbed of that spot. Based on performance in this season alone - he absolutely does. He has been outstanding this season. Not sure how Xavien Howard is ahead of Tre and how are Casey Hayward and Desmond King not there? Maybe they felt the Chargers already had too many representatives and rigged it a bit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 At this point I would rather see the Bills play with a chip on their shoulder next season. Also motivation for GM and coaches to prove themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 53 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Is this a surprise? There is not really any elite talent on this roster, like none. Yeah Milano had a good year before getting hurt, but the linebacker spot is more competitive for purposes of the Pro Bowl. Hmm... Tre White if not there is very close. He is the only one even in a discussion for elite status at his position in my mind. We have some other good players - the safeties, Hughes, Milano.... Lorenzo has had a terrific year too... but none of them are elite or can even have that much of a gripe with missing the pro bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The Bills have the number three defense (3rd aginst the pass, 9th against the rush) (DVOA) yet have no pro bowl representation. White should be in the conversation of elite corners and he and Milano should both be in consideration for the Pro Bowl based on their play through most of the year. However, the competition is tough at their positions and it is not an overwhelming shock they didn't get selected. Personally, the defense's top 5 ranking says more to me about the coaching of McDermott and his staff than it does about elite talent - and I will take that all day, every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The bills placekicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Isn't it fan-voting? Big deal. Robert "Kraft" Dinner just had his pal Vlad sic the Russian bot trolls on NFL.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I wonder how the players feel about the ProBowl these days. It seems to have had more cred decades ago than it does today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: Need talent to win in this league. They need a lot better offensive talent to take the next step next year. They'll only get so far with JAGs at most positions, even if Allen continues to develop. And they need elite talent up front on defense too. That is a place where we have a lot of solid football players but no difference maker. If you can have a difference maker up front and a top end difference maker at corner the rest of your defense can be solid and JAG types. Obviously on offense they need to be more talented everywhere around Allen really. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: Need talent to win in this league. They need a lot better offensive talent to take the next step next year. They'll only get so far with JAGs at most positions, even if Allen continues to develop. My post was to the defense. They have some good young talent (although not elite talent outside of White, IMO) on that side of the ball and the coaching staff did a great job with it. They need to continue to add talent to that side of the ball; however, they need a drastic upgrade of talent on the offensive side of the ball. I do like Allen and I think he definitely has a chance to be the franchise QB this team has been looking for. They need to surround him with the talent he needs to prove he can be that QB. I also like what Daboll has shown me over the last 4-5 weeks. I would like to see what he can do with more talent. I'm pretty optimistic at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Codyny13 said: Poyer, Hauscka, and White. Downside of playing in Buffalo. More the downside of the team being 5-9. Poyer didn't come on until the back half of the season, Hauschka hasn't been as good compared to last year, and White getting beat 3x straight weeks especially Jets/Lions is not how you help your probowl candidacy as voting concludes. Truthfully only Kyle Williams belongs the rest I just think needed to be more consistent. Had Milano been healthy he deserved to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Is Tyrod the 20th alternate Qb as usual? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Well, with the #2 defense in all of football you can understand why they are one of only 3 teams to have no pro-bowl selections. ...said anyone who is a moron. Edited December 19, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The Pro Bowl is kind of like the Puppy Bowl anyhow. No one really plays with much effort. No one wants to risk injury. Personally, I think they should use it to honor players and actually invite college prospects to come show their stuff! Now THAT would be worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 12 hours ago, One Buffalo said: Yep. Let that sink in . . . Respect and accolades come with winning. Hopefully we turn the corner this year and the winning starts next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Well, with the #2 defense in all of football you can understand why they are one of 3 teams to have no pro-bowl selections. ...said anyone who is a moron. That does seem right Donuts, after all, they are not currently #1, for shame on them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: That does seem right Donuts, after all, they are not currently #1, for shame on them... We have the best record of any team in the NFL without a pro-bowler and 7 teams in the League that have our same record or worse have a pro-bowler. We are the Mr. Cellophane of the nfl! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Another Fan said: And yet Tyrod was technically a Pro Bowler when he was here... What does that tell you about the game He was like 147th alternate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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