Bills Sign WR Victor Bolden from 49ers Practice Squad, Place RB Marcus Murphy on IR, and Workout Eight Players

[Comebackkid]

3 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said:

 

I recognize this but can't remember where.  Wasn't it part of a song?

George thorogood

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

 Ha! I don’t think he wrote it. Most Blues songs are redone by everyone.

 

Btw, GETOFFMYLAWN!, whippersnapper!?

Yes sir, Sir !

I bet Muddy Waters recorded it too : )

 

22 minutes ago, Robert James said:

This is the process.  Keep working, even a the margins, looking for ways to improve.  Doing something versus doing nothing.

 

yep. That why i mentioned scouting.

 next feature is Coaching. As in can Bills coaching staff , develop players. any one.
time was , Bill could not. especially qb.

 But the jury is still out with this new group about developing talent.

 the next phase might be paying the Man.
another area Bills need to get better at. both retaining long term and letting leave when value is lacking.

 Whaley had good scouts and super poor money management and questionable Coachings
 

7 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

George thorogood

and the Delaware Destroyers

[Hapless Bills Fan]

54 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If you are trying out potential 3rd string future developmental QBs, why not see what Chad Kelly has?

 

Please no

[Comebackkid]

7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Yes sir, Sir !

I bet Muddy Waters recorded it too : )

 

yep. That why i mentioned scouting.

 next feature is Coaching. As in can Bills coaching staff , develop players. any one.
time was , Bill could not. especially qb.

 But the jury is still out with this new group about developing talent.

 the next phase might be paying the Man.
another area Bills need to get better at. both retaining long term and letting leave when value is lacking.

 Whaley had good scouts and super poor money management and questionable Coachings
 

and the Delaware Destroyers

Yep

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Please no

You don’t have to worry, these guys would never bother. They would bring in a guy like Tebow before a guy like Baker Mayfield just because he’s not squeaky clean. It’s football, not Tennis. If you don’t have some bad guys, you are going to get your ass handed to you on a regular basis. Maybe if we had a little more nastiness we wouldn’t get blown off the ball on both sides by every physical team. Might actually be able to run again.

[MAJBobby]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

WTH with working out all those QB?  Anyone have a clue?

 

Because they will have exactly ONE QB on The Roster. Anderson and Barkley are on expiring contracts. 

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

The fact that the Bills are working out QBs tells me Anderson is retiring after this season (who can blame him?). 

 

Maybe I'm wrong on this but i always assume they bring in QBs for these "workouts" to throw passes to the guys they're actually interested in signing.

[TigerJ]

4 hours ago, billykay said:

you mean like Holmes & Benjamin.

How about like Mike Evans?

[BringBackFergy]

5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Rounding out the list was offensive linebacker Cory James, a former Oakland Raider who played 26 career games in the NFL between the 2016 and 2017 seasons.  Notably, he suited up for all 16 contests for the Raiders in 2016.

Beane is going rogue...creating a new position: offensive linebacker. Way to think outside the box *****!!

[Solomon Grundy]

I woulda liked for the Bills to have snatched Bo Scarborough off the Jags practice squad. 

[TigerJ]

Like all teams, Buffalo is doing due diligence on a bunch of fringe guys, because you never know when someone might surprise bigtime on the upside.  Think Isaiah McKenzie and Robert Foster.  Bolden is obviously a return specialist.  As far as QBs go, it's already b een noted that Buffalo only has one QB on the roster on a multi-year deal.  I'm assuming Buffalo will seek to negotiate a multi-year deal at reasonable cost with either Barkley or Derek Anderson (preferably Barkley) but there are no guarantees.  If they only re-sign one of them, they will want to pick up one or two more for training camp next summer.  Gilbert's dad was a strong armed QB, regardless of the fact he didn't make it in the NFL.  I think his kid is supposed to be the same way.  It might make some sense to bring in a youngster with a strong arm.  If he did develop into a serviceable backup, it might be advantageous to retain the capability of hitting the long ball if Josh were to go down.

[Thriftygamer83]

This team is loading itself up with young, efficient, and hungry castoffs which no other team wanted.  So, we give them a home, sign them, notice their loyalties, and from that we have a youth movement.  Kelvin Benjamin basically Krispy Kremed himself out of the league.  

15 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

Like all teams, Buffalo is doing due diligence on a bunch of fringe guys, because you never know when someone might surprise bigtime on the upside.  Think Isaiah McKenzie and Robert Foster.  Bolden is obviously a return specialist.  As far as QBs go, it's already b een noted that Buffalo only has one QB on the roster on a multi-year deal.  I'm assuming Buffalo will seek to negotiate a multi-year deal at reasonable cost with either Barkley or Derek Anderson (preferably Barkley) but there are no guarantees.  If they only re-sign one of them, they will want to pick up one or two more for training camp next summer.  Gilbert's dad was a strong armed QB, regardless of the fact he didn't make it in the NFL.  I think his kid is supposed to be the same way.  It might make some sense to bring in a youngster with a strong arm.  If he did develop into a serviceable backup, it might be advantageous to retain the capability of hitting the long ball if Josh were to go down.

And, to use Barkley as trade bait during the draft.  As Anderson will most likely be added to the Coaching staff.  

33 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

How about like Mike Evans?

What else do the Buccaneers have for offense or defense?  Other then bloated contracts and only one real star.  We are going off of what our salary cap allows us to do.  

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

You don’t have to worry, these guys would never bother. They would bring in a guy like Tebow before a guy like Baker Mayfield just because he’s not squeaky clean. It’s football, not Tennis. If you don’t have some bad guys, you are going to get your ass handed to you on a regular basis. Maybe if we had a little more nastiness we wouldn’t get blown off the ball on both sides by every physical team. Might actually be able to run again.

 

I really hate this lazy (and terrible) opinion about this staff - especially as it has been shown to be wrong repeatedly.  

 

We have no idea how they felt about Mayfield as he was the #1 pick and the Bills never had a chance to pick him, but considering they seem to like guys that want to play and give it their all - I do not think Mayfield would have been an issue. Rosen on the other hand makes so much more sense now that you see him playing in Arizona and he flashes immaturity and does not seem to be the natural leader and have the natural charisma of Allen.

 

They have picked up and signed a ton of non-squeaky clean guys.  Phillips was essentially kicked off Miami for arguments with the coaching staff, we have also picked up guys with suspensions like Murphy and the new kid Bolden along with guys during the off season. 

 

Just because what what they are looking for in players does not always match what you are looking for does not mean they only sign goody two shoes players.  They do not Mind having players that are nasty or bad ass - see Teller, Phillips, and Incognito - as long as you do not have a me first attitude that permeates your play - see Dareus and Watkins.  It is not the squeaky image, but team first play and thoughts that matter.

 

This squeaky clean image garbage is just as bad as the take that they would cut people because they are not religious enough or that was the reason a guy like Peterman made the roster.  It also is nearly as bad as the opinion that this front office only picks up former Carolina players - when it has been patently proven that on the current Bills roster there are now only 2 former Carolina players and one - Anderson - has not been active and is only here in a mentor role right now, but people still say - well they only pick guys up if they have been on Carolina’s roster.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2018 by Rochesterfan

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Just now, Rochesterfan said:

 

I really hate this lazy (and terrible) opinion about this staff - especially as it has been shown to be wrong repeatedly.  

 

We have no idea how they felt about Mayfield as he was the #1 pick and the Bills never had a chance to pick him, but considering they seem to like guys that want to play and give it their all - I do not think Mayfield would have been an issue. Rosen on the other hand makes so much more sense now that you see him playing in Arizona and he flashes immaturity and does not seem to be the natural leader and have the natural charisma of Allen.

 

They have picked up and signed a ton of non-squeaky clean guys.  Phillips was essentially kicked off Miami for arguments with the coaching staff, we have also picked up guys with suspensions like Murphy and the new kid Bolden along with guys during the off season. 

 

Just because what what they are looking for in players does not always match what you are looking for does not mean they only sign goody two shoes players.  They do not Mind having players that are nasty or bad ass - see Teller, Phillips, and Incognito - as long as you do not have a me first attitude that permeates your play - see Dareus and Watkins.  It is not the squeaky image, but team first play and thoughts that matter.

 

This squeaky clean image garbage is just as bad as the take that they would cut people because they are not religious enough or that was the reason a guy like Peterman made the roster.  It also is nearly as bad as the opinion that this front office only picks up former Carolina players - when it has been patently proven that on the current Bills roster there are now only 2 former Carolina players and one - Anderson - has not been active and is only here in a mentor role right now, but people still say - while they only pick guys up if they have been on Carolina’s roster.

 

 

I mean, it hasn’t been proven wrong at any point. It’s just what has happened. Any time Mcd speaks he preaches this process and character. Anyone that has rocked the boat or doesnt fit into what they want behavior-wise is gone. Dareus, Sammy, Incognito.  It’s pretty clear the coach wants high character players. I don’t think that’s ever been hidden. I’m not even saying it’s the wrong approach. They just won’t bring in Chad Kelly. Even if he was very good. They wouldn’t do it. Sorry that it bothers you. Josh Gordon is excellent and has been a constant headache. If he was available and could help us, we would never bring him in. It just wouldn’t happen. That’s not what this front office is about. It’s all about good soldiers and going along with this “process” 

[MrEpsYtown]

Swoope is interesting but I really would like us to find an actual real tight end somewhere, not an H back, or converted reciever, basketball player, quarterback. 

 

Woodside and Bo Levi Mitchell are relatively interesting guys as #3 guys for next year. Both are on the small side, but kind of interesting. 

[eball]

2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If you are trying out potential 3rd string future developmental QBs, why not see what Chad Kelly has?

 

Besides a record?

[Rochesterfan]

4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I mean, it hasn’t been proven wrong at any point. It’s just what has happened. Any time Mcd speaks he preaches this process and character. Anyone that has rocked the boat or doesnt fit into what they want behavior-wise is gone. Dareus, Sammy, Incognito.  It’s pretty clear the coach wants high character players. I don’t think that’s ever been hidden. I’m not even saying it’s the wrong approach. They just won’t bring in Chad Kelly. Even if he was very good. They wouldn’t do it. Sorry that it bothers you. Josh Gordon is excellent and has been a constant headache. If he was available and could help us, we would never bring him in. It just wouldn’t happen. That’s not what this front office is about. It’s all about good soldiers and going along with this “process” 

 

 

I don’t disagree they won’t bring either of those guys in, but I don’t think it is about them not being squeaky clean.  It is that those players have shown themselves to be more concerned about “me” rather than “we”.  

 

The issue is exactly how good can they be?  Many coaches call it different things, but have the same idea - team first and you are one of eleven.  Frank Reich in Indy after this game talked about the importance of team and these guys really buying into playing for each other - same idea.  Belichek In NE brings in a bunch of these guys, but they are forced to adjust or he moves on from them - even if they are talented.  Just listen to the Gronk interviews from last season about why he could not celebrate TDs - the coach forbade individual celebrations.  

 

The biggest issue I had is you somehow lump Mayfield in for some reason when we have no idea what the staff really thought of him - with the assumption that because he is not squeaky clean - this staff would not touch him.  I think they would look at his leadership and how he plays for his teammates and they would of had no issue with him, but it is only an opinion.

[reddogblitz]

Bringing in Bo is smart. We've had success with Grey Cup winners in the past.

 

Doug Flutie 

Marv Levy

[stevewin]

4 hours ago, the skycap said:

Hope Bolden gets to wear #6

He will retire before the end of the week to save frogs in the rainforest

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If you are trying out potential 3rd string future developmental QBs, why not see what Chad Kelly has?

 

....we already know.......issues..............

[PIZ]

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, PIZ said:

 

 

 

I know it's a highlight reel but that kid seems really fast and made some great catches.

[Chandler#81]

3 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Swoope is interesting but I really would like us to find an actual real tight end somewhere, not an H back, or converted reciever, basketball player, quarterback. 

 

Woodside and Bo Levi Mitchell are relatively interesting guys as #3 guys for next year. Both are on the small side, but kind of interesting. 

There’ve been quite a few basketball players who’ve become great NFL players. 

Can’t remember the last time Buffalo had multiple CFL players in for a tryout. I’m impressed with the pro scouting commitment of this staff.

[Laughing Coffin]

Us bringing in soooo many short/fast guys makes me think that the Bills have their eyes on someone tall that can play on the outside in the draft/FA

[Bad Things]

3 hours ago, PIZ said:

 

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing this.

He really looks like he has some quality ability as a player.  I look forward to watching him.

 

On another note... how many uniform combinations does Oregon State have?  It seemed like every other highlight, and a different uniform. 

[Thunderstruck]

I'm actually glad our FO is finally thinking outside of the box- we've tried the big possession WR route and it just doesn't work. give me fast guys with good hands all day and twice on Sundays. if we are able to roll out 2 or 3 burners that can beat you both deep and with other precision routes, it's going to be great for the run game too. #1 focus needs to be on upgrading the OL so these guys have time to run their routes and Josh can stay in the pocket for a few seconds without having to constantly run for his life.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

There’ve been quite a few basketball players who’ve become great NFL players. 

Can’t remember the last time Buffalo had multiple CFL players in for a tryout. I’m impressed with the pro scouting commitment of this staff.

 

....certainly agree bud....think McBeane has done a helluva job assembling his "gang of 17 staff" , many who are exec level guys from around the league to find talent anywhere........

[Thriftygamer83]

6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

There’ve been quite a few basketball players who’ve become great NFL players. 

Can’t remember the last time Buffalo had multiple CFL players in for a tryout. I’m impressed with the pro scouting commitment of this staff.

Haven’t seen this level of dedication and commitment since Linda Wilson was in charge of scouting.  

[MrEpsYtown]

6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

There’ve been quite a few basketball players who’ve become great NFL players. 

Can’t remember the last time Buffalo had multiple CFL players in for a tryout. I’m impressed with the pro scouting commitment of this staff.

 

I guess my point is that we seem to always be trying to develop a superstar tight end, while never having a serviceable tight end. I'd like them to add a couple of guys who played tight end in college rather than trying so many conversions. 

[The Frankish Reich]

16 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Hopefully he'll return kicks instead of McKenzie who has no knack for it.

Yeah, McKenizie has been a find on offense, but after his horrible experiences with punt returns on the Broncos he just looks like he has no confidence in that role. I'd rather not see Micah Hyde returning punts - he's sure handed, but too valuable and unlikely to break anything - so why not give this guy a shot?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

loved the video, but for the...uh music?

 

[The Frankish Reich]

Prediction: Bo Levi Mitchell will make an NFL roster. And I hope it’s the Bills. It’s kind of a Moneyball thing we have going on in the NFL now. Value can be found in both the supremely talented athlete who hasn’t specialized in football (those basketball players), and also in the guys without the Combine measurables who have nonetheless succeeded at the game - in this case, at the highest “minor league” level. Could Mitchell be a bargain basement Chase Daniel?  Sure. 

[MrEpsYtown]

32 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Prediction: Bo Levi Mitchell will make an NFL roster. And I hope it’s the Bills. It’s kind of a Moneyball thing we have going on in the NFL now. Value can be found in both the supremely talented athlete who hasn’t specialized in football (those basketball players), and also in the guys without the Combine measurables who have nonetheless succeeded at the game - in this case, at the highest “minor league” level. Could Mitchell be a bargain basement Chase Daniel?  Sure. 

 

He's on the smaller side, but teh dude put up some ridiculous numbers. I know the game is different, but he is very interesting. There is a little Kurt Warner in his story. He should go somewhere where he has a chance to  compete or a place like NY Giants or Patriots who are going to need a replacement soon. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

18 hours ago, PirateHookerMD said:

Short/fast return guy. Meh. I'd like to get a few tall guys on the roster they think they can develop over the summer/camp. 

The Packers just signed Allen Lazard from Iowa State. I was intrigued by him prior to the draft. I believe they signed him off of Jags practice squad.

Edited December 19, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL

[BuffaloHokie13]

3 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

The Packers just signed Allen Lazard from Iowa State. I was intrigued by him prior to the draft. I believe they signed him off of Jags practice squad.

I wanted us to give him a shot after we got rid of KB. Or, more accurately, I wanted us to cut KB so we could sign him!

[MrEpsYtown]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I wanted us to give him a shot after we got rid of KB. Or, more accurately, I wanted us to cut KB so we could sign him!

 

Agreed. It appears that us and the front office are not on the same page. People have been calling for us to go after guys like Daurice Fountain, Lazard, Tanner Gentry, yet they look another way. I wonder what it is that they are looking for because guys like Fountain and Lazard were freely available and now are playing on active rosters that have better receivers than we do. I don't get it. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

20 hours ago, wppete said:

His nick name is ‘Quick 6’  Love it! 

 

But he only ran a 4.54 40 yard at the combine. Maybe he was injured? He looks a lot faster than that. 

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/victor-bolden, jr.?id=2558238

 

Some guys are bad starters or bad at running 40s. 

 

once some guys are moving they can change direction without losing speed. 

 

His 3 cone drill of 6.83 beats a lot of big named WRs. Diggs, Sammy, Ridley to name some. 

 

Seems like a great 40 can confirm speed, but poor 40 times don’t necessarily prove it’s absence. 

 

Lots of highlight plays in college ball. Like the hands catches. 

Edited December 19, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...still no Tanner Gentry..............

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, Thunderstruck said:

I'm actually glad our FO is finally thinking outside of the box- we've tried the big possession WR route and it just doesn't work. give me fast guys with good hands all day and twice on Sundays. if we are able to roll out 2 or 3 burners that can beat you both deep and with other precision routes, it's going to be great for the run game too. #1 focus needs to be on upgrading the OL so these guys have time to run their routes and Josh can stay in the pocket for a few seconds without having to constantly run for his life.

It actually does work if they will high point and catch balls.....you have these 5 10 corners at a total disadvantage when your 6 5.....they literally cannot stop it

 

Unless you are Kelvin Benjamin......

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I guess my point is that we seem to always be trying to develop a superstar tight end, while never having a serviceable tight end. I'd like them to add a couple of guys who played tight end in college rather than trying so many conversions. 

 

Come on now Clay qualifies as serviceable. He might be overpaid by a lot, but he’s a starting NFL TE....  overall including blocking he’s a top 15-20 TE