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1 minute ago, wettlaufer said:

 

Hard for Zay to reel it in when he's being bear-hugged. No-call on that was bad.

 

No doubt.  Don’t like Allen getting hit in the head and the laundry staying in the pocket, either.  Not impressed with the zebras today. 

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Look he is getting better. He's understanding just how much he can take advantage of teams by getting out of the pocket and running. He also makes some truly special throws. But again, the accuracy is terrible. He made 8-10 bad throws today. It's not just the missed TD or the INTs. I'm fine with that 50 yards bomb we took in the 2nd half that missed. It's missing Zay repeatedly on crossing routes, or KB over the middle, or the poor throws on outs. Some of the misses are by 5-10 yards. It's so weird how he can go from hitting the bulls eye two to three times in a row and then miss by so much you're almost not sure who he was throwing to. Josh killed several drives today with unforced errors because he wasn't accurate. He has to improve on that. New receivers and a new line aren't going to make him accurate on wide open throws.      

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3 minutes ago, VW82 said:

Look he is getting better. He's understanding just how much he can take advantage of teams by getting out of the pocket and running. He also makes some truly special throws. But again, the accuracy is terrible. He made 8-10 bad throws today. It's not just the missed TD or the INTs. I'm fine with that 50 yards bomb we took in the 2nd half that missed. It's missing Zay repeatedly on crossing routes, or KB over the middle, or the poor throws on outs. Some of the misses are by 5-10 yards. It's so weird how he can go from hitting the bulls eye two to three times in a row and then miss by so much you're almost not sure who he was throwing to. Josh killed several drives today with unforced errors because he wasn't accurate. He has to improve on that. New receivers and a new line aren't going to make him accurate on wide open throws.      

right on the money

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I had to work through this game but the texts I got from my dad said he was off early on. I got to see the last 3 minutes and man did he make some special plays. 

 

Allen is an odd case as a young qb. Struggles with throws that are routine for many, and then makes throws that would make Aaron Rodgers' jaw drop and some that Brady couldn't make in his wildest dreams. It's actually ideal in my opinion. Much easier to teach the mechanics to consistently make 5-10 yard throws than it is to teach a guy to feel the rush, step up in the pocket and deliver a 50 yard bomb through the air while getting drilled that hits the reciever in the numbers.

 

For all the detractors, keep in mind he wasn't supposed to start this year for a reason. I'm sure the coaching staff knows he has accuracy issues on the short/intermediate passes and they have a plan to fix it. It's much harder to step back and work on the basics when he has to get ready to start every week, going through film and game planning for the next team. Let's hope he can get with Palmer again this offseason and work out his kinks while not having the pressure of starting on him for ~7 months. I'd bet with his work ethic we will see improvements in 2019. 

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41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Really strange game to evaluate. I thought Josh was off in the passing game most of the day, but he made a couple of fantastic throws - the second TD in particular - and he made a lot of plays with his legs. 

 

I still need to see more consistency throwing from the pocket. That is how you ultimately win consistently in this league. 

 

Most of the game?? Think that's an overstatement.  You could argue he was off in the 1st half, but the 2nd half, he was damm good.  He also was smart with the runs, don't recall him getting hit on any of them.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

What would have been the game-winning TD to Clay was not short and was right on the money.  ST's cost the team dearly today as did miscues all over and the refs.

 

Respectfully, I disagree and believe it was short. Tough pass, on the run, just couldn't get enough on it. SHould Clay have caught it? Definitely.

 

It looked like the play calling in the 2nd half  was more "put the ball in Josh's hands" and he seemed to be up to the task. Look at his 2nd half numbers. If they would have called it that way in the 1st half rather than putting the ball into Shady's hands it might have been a much different ballgame. 

 

It also seemed like he's improve in his short and medium throws - anyone agree?

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47 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

Josh Allen has been playing competitive football for many years now.  HS, Jr. College, Wyoming, now with the Buffalo Bills.

 

His pass accuracy has never improved.

 

Sorry!

 

:thumbdown:

 

Cheer for the Cardinals instead. 

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4 minutes ago, johnnychemo said:

It also seemed like he's improve in his short and medium throws - anyone agree?

 

Yep he's gotten much better in the intermediate passing game. He had a few really outstanding throws in the 2nd half that gave his receivers plenty of room for YAC. The 3 passes on the last drive to get us to the red zone were huge plays.

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53 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

Josh Allen has been playing competitive football for many years now.  HS, Jr. College, Wyoming, now with the Buffalo Bills.

 

His pass accuracy has never improved.

 

Sorry!

 

:thumbdown:

It appears most here want nothing more than an echo chamber, they certainly don't want the truth.

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yep he's gotten much better in the intermediate passing game. He had a few really outstanding throws in the 2nd half that gave his receivers plenty of room for YAC. The 3 passes on the last drive to get us to the red zone were huge plays.

Yep. He also took a lot off a bunch of passes, which his natural tendency is not to do. He lofted the ball to DiMarco and another one in the second half that I liked. He's played like 7-8 games with a crappy cast. He's played VERY good IMO.

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He gave the Bills a chance to win at the end.  Too many penalties and miscues today.  Saw some jaw dropping plays today and some misses.  Hopefully we see consistency set in as he's asked to do less to make things happen.  Right now with the O line the way it is and no running game he is the entire Bills offense.  There some really good throws that few qbs would even attempt along with some bad misses.  I'm ok with it.  Get some real play makers around him and we'll start to see several big plays a game. 

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I’m far more encouraged than disappointed. Winning this week means little. Seeing progress means a LOT. He tried to take the offense on his shoulders, and he almost pulled it off. Work to do, holes to fill, but I’m encouraged. 

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56 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

Josh Allen has been playing competitive football for many years now.  HS, Jr. College, Wyoming, now with the Buffalo Bills.

 

His pass accuracy has never improved.

 

Sorry!

 

:thumbdown:

 

51 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

 

You can project that to a full NFL season and a full NFL career for Josh Allen.

 

:mellow:

 

 

 

49 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:


JA has had the same pass accuracy problem his whole football life.

 

<_<

 

47 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

 

You didn't challenge my post, John.  JA has a pass accuracy problem.  Not good.  

 

:ph34r:

 

I take it you are not a Josh Allen fan.

Can I ask you if you can "wish" he was everything you want him to be?

I say this because he is going to be the Bills QB for a lot of games going forward.

 

2 minutes ago, PeterDude said:

It appears most here want nothing more than an echo chamber, they certainly don't want the truth.

 

You can't handle the truth.

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Yep Josh sucks as bad as Jared Goff

 

Goff 17/33 207 yards, 1 TD 1 Int -2 yards rushing

Allen 18/33 231 yards 2 TD 2 Int 135 yards rushing

 

man these guys suck. 

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1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

 

 

 

I take it you are not a Josh Allen fan.

Can I ask you if you can "wish" he was everything you want him to be?

I say this because he is going to be the Bills QB for a lot of games going forward.

 

 

You can't handle the truth.

That Allen remains inconsistent? Try to tell me otherwise, go ahead.

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1 hour ago, PearlHowardman said:

Josh Allen has been playing competitive football for many years now.  HS, Jr. College, Wyoming, now with the Buffalo Bills.

 

His pass accuracy has never improved.

 

Sorry!

 

:thumbdown:

 

I'm sure you don't know what you are talking about. What evidence do you have of this?

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Josh Allen will always be a little inaccurate but he is going to be good anyways.  He has kept the Bills competitive both at home and on the road.  Once the Bills improve their offensive talent his ability to get the ball downfield will lead to more chunk plays and a better running game.  It has been a long time since I have been this optimistic.

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If Clay doesn't stumble or makes that catch it's one of the best fourth quarter comebacks in Bills history. A little over two minutes. 90 yards. On the road. No time outs. He already had 3-4 very good passes before that. We lost a review that would have been first and goal at the five. He eluded three rushers before looking downfield again and throwing all the way across the field to the enzone 40+ yards.

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2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

If Clay doesn't stumble or makes that catch it's one of the best fourth quarter comebacks in Bills history. A little over two minutes. 90 yards. On the road. No time outs. He already had 3-4 very good passes before that. We lost a review that would have been first and goal at the five. He eluded three rushers before looking downfield again and throwing all the way across the field to the enzone 40+ yards.

No points for second place.

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1 minute ago, PeterDude said:

That Allen remains inconsistent? Try to tell me otherwise, go ahead.

 

LOL.  Enjoy your sweet blanket of despair.  I watch football Buffalo Bills football and hope they win because that's what I do.

You got to do what you got to do.

Cheers!

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8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

LOL.  Enjoy your sweet blanket of despair.  I watch football Buffalo Bills football and hope they win because that's what I do.

You got to do what you got to do.

Cheers!

Hey, I'd like a perrenial playoff team just like the next guy, but being delusional about the current talent isn't going to make it happen.

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1 hour ago, Bakin said:

YES, 

he missed a few passes, including the TD to Zay and the pass to Clay (it was short, for sure, but Clay was bumbling)..

 

this kid is special..

those runs??  Some of those passes?  
My goodness...

 

Improve the supporting cast...Allen will get even better (if he doesn't end up in a full body cast)....

 

Really disappointing loss...but it appears this kid might be for real...

 

Keep on keepin on...

 

 

He is, clay should have caught it.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

I maintain his elbow is bothering him.  He threw some ropes that no other QB can throw.  He threw a bunch of ducks.  He single-handedly kept the game competitive.  He missed three open TDs...

 

Yea that pretty much sums it up. Those last two sentences are why it is a really strange e v a l...

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16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

LOL.  Enjoy your sweet blanket of despair.  I watch football Buffalo Bills football and hope they win because that's what I do.

You got to do what you got to do.

Cheers!

I've been waiting for a game like this all year.  I really don't care that they lost.  This is what I was hoping for all season.  

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24 minutes ago, Sanners said:

Yep Josh sucks as bad as Jared Goff

 

Goff 17/33 207 yards, 1 TD 1 Int -2 yards rushing

Allen 18/33 231 yards 2 TD 2 Int 135 yards rushing

 

man these guys suck. 

Aaron Rogers sucks too. 31/50   233 yds, 1 TD

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38 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Most of the game?? Think that's an overstatement.  You could argue he was off in the 1st half, but the 2nd half, he was damm good.  He also was smart with the runs, don't recall him getting hit on any of them.

 

Yea I think most of the game his passing was a little off. Yes he had some drops - including a couple of big ones but whether it was timing or fundamentals there were plenty of inaccurate balls. 

 

I am not saying he was all bad today - he most certainly was not - but it was unconventional QB'ing.... and an odd one to try and analyse as a result. 

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