oldmanfan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, McBean said: Hey Rober I like your posts. Remember you back from the BBMB days... You’ve seemed to be good at scouting QB’s and talent. If you were the GM today, what would you do to fix this mess? I imagine he'd bring in Winston. Back in the day on the BBMB he had indicated a team should trade their whole draft to get the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Honestly think we will see McCoy sent away. I think they used him enough last night to show he wasnt injured anymore, but then cut his carries back in the second half to save him from injury. Two darkhorse candidates not on the Bills would be Eli Manning to Jacksonville and Leonard Fournette out of Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest1981 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Hey. I'm just an armchair GM but I'll give you my plan. CURRENT 1. Trade McCoy. His style doesn't fit our offense. He takes too many negative plays and this offense is incapable of overcoming negative plays. Let Ivory and Murphy plow into the line for 3-4 yards a carry and reduce the lost yardage. 2. Cut Benjamin. The guy is useless. Give a younger guy a chance. OFFSEASON 1. Sign Teddy Bridgewater to a 2 year, $20 mil contract. Let him and Allen compete with a new rookie picked in the 3rd or 4th round. If he beats out Allen, so be it. This team will mutiny if the offense isn't drastically better next year. 2. Cut Charles Clay. Another terrible Whaley signing. 3. Sign Donte Moncrief and Geronimo Allison to bolster the WR corps. 4. Trade down!!! Stockpile draft picks. Move down out of the top 5 to pick up either an extra 1st rounder or a couple extra 2nd rounders. We need to stockpile picks and fill out the roster with NFL calibre talent. No more trading away picks to move up for players. Allison will be a RFA, for the record, and likely tendered at a 2nd-round level (though he was undrafted). But with the Packers drafting 3 WR’s, two of whom have shown real promise, I suppose it’s conceivable they tender him at his undrafted level and he’s obtainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 All I know is that Shady deserves better than this. I dont One think he gets traded but he should. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Midwest1981 said: Allison will be a RFA, for the record, and likely tendered at a 2nd-round level (though he was undrafted). But with the Packers drafting 3 WR’s, two of whom have shown real promise, I suppose it’s conceivable they tender him at his undrafted level and he’s obtainable. Doubtful given your second point. They'll promote the young guys and let them compete behind Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think McCoy will be moved. KB we are probably stuck with for the year. It'd be an early Christmas miracle if we could somehow dump Clay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep move em. They would get you highest return. Maybe if you can find a team to do it move Clay as well No one is trading anything for Kyle Williams or Lorenzo Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said: It doesn't matter. The Buffalo Bills will never be a successful NFL team under the ownership of Terry & Kim Pegula. Same goes for the Buffalo Sabres. Couldn't agree more. And besides the NFL will ensure we continue to do our job as a 7-9 schedule filler. It's almost gotten pointless to follow this team anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 KB I think. I hope Charles Clay goes at some point too. I still say, trade Clay and a pick or something to the tight end needy Chargers for Forrest Lamp, who is wasting away on their bench. KB I could see getting traded to the Colts or I think he would be a great fit for the Packers. I think Shady and Hughes stay, unless they get a king's ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said: No one is trading anything for Kyle Williams or Lorenzo Alexander. You could get mid round picks for both if a contending team needs a DT and Pass Rusher. I would have to go thru the list of contenders and see if any are there. But also there goes McD “leadership counsel”. Edited October 30, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: KB I think. I hope Charles Clay goes at some point too. I still say, trade Clay and a pick or something to the tight end needy Chargers for Forrest Lamp, who is wasting away on their bench. KB I could see getting traded to the Colts or I think he would be a great fit for the Packers. I think Shady and Hughes stay, unless they get a king's ransom. How can you watch Benjamin and believe he would be a “great fit” on any NFL team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugashane69 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Anyone who can get us some value! Shady .....and I got nothing else. Lol... clay and benjamin.....can we fore someone to? Daboll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Benjamin for sure, maybe Clay just to dump his salary. Shady deserves to be on a contender. Send him to a team that can give up a good WR who can actually help whoever will be the QB going forward. Ivory and Murphy can handle things in the running game. We're a long way from win now mode. The offense needs a full rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: How can you watch Benjamin and believe he would be a “great fit” on any NFL team? I get where you are coming from, but offenses and quarterbacks that would do more with KB than throw jump balls on go's, would probably get more out of him. He should be running more in breaking routes, digs, crossing routes, etc. He would do those things with Indy and Green Bay and would play with competent quarterbacks. A guy that big should be working the middle of the field, not running 9 routes on the outside. This is the same crap we saw with Sammy Watkins. He never ran any in breaking stuff or screens or any of that stuff. He was the go route guy. Now we see the impact he is having in KC because he is actually being used right. KB's been bad, but he also isn't being used properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I don't think they are going to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: KB I think. I hope Charles Clay goes at some point too. I still say, trade Clay and a pick or something to the tight end needy Chargers for Forrest Lamp, who is wasting away on their bench. KB I could see getting traded to the Colts or I think he would be a great fit for the Packers. I think Shady and Hughes stay, unless they get a king's ransom. I don't see Beane's phone ringing for Benjamin, do you? Or Clay for that matter. They will both be free agents and neither one brings much. The only guy that could move is Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Mcdermott and three 1st rounders for Mcvea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Shady I think last night was the team's last stand. I can see them not wanting to move Shady before the home primetime game against the Pats, but last night pretty much sealed up any delusions of playoffs. I think they sit Allen all year and won't be concerned with having a safety outlet for him. I'd say Benjamin if they could get anything for him, but the receiver market seems pretty flush. It seems pretty clear McBeane is dead set on building the defense above all else, I would be surprised to see them take pieces out of that. 17 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I get where you are coming from, but offenses and quarterbacks that would do more with KB than throw jump balls on go's, would probably get more out of him. He should be running more in breaking routes, digs, crossing routes, etc. He would do those things with Indy and Green Bay and would play with competent quarterbacks. A guy that big should be working the middle of the field, not running 9 routes on the outside. This is the same crap we saw with Sammy Watkins. He never ran any in breaking stuff or screens or any of that stuff. He was the go route guy. Now we see the impact he is having in KC because he is actually being used right. KB's been bad, but he also isn't being used properly. I've been saying for a while that KB needs to be used like a "move" TE. But the guy plays smaller than anyone in the league, I don't think he has the stones for that type of role. Edited October 30, 2018 by Chuck Wagon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I hate saying this, but I hope Kyle Williams gets traded to a contender. Possibly New Orleans, let him go home and have a chance at a Super Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, McBean said: Who gets traded today? IMO, McCoy and Benjamin are gone today. What say you? Why would anyone trade for KB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I don't see Beane's phone ringing for Benjamin, do you? Or Clay for that matter. They will both be free agents and neither one brings much. The only guy that could move is Shady. Honestly, I think league perception is the KB and Clay are better than they are playing. And I think that is true. BB talked about how important it was to stop Charles Clay. Teams design their defenses to take away KB a lot of the time. So I think there is some value there. I dunno, I could be wrong, but that's what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, McBean said: Who gets traded today? IMO, McCoy and Benjamin are gone today. What say you? KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 47 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said: That's what I love about this site. It's the unbridled optimism. Well we are running on a 50+ year track record of bad football on the field and in the front office. About 80% of the Bills football existence has been spent as a laughing stock, punchline or just met with apathy by the nation. Only in Buffalo do we drink Kool-aide and psyche ourselves into "Billieving" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 48 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Zay Jones is my dark horse, not that I'd advocate for it. Zay Jones is the least of problems. He's actually one of the brightest lights we have on offense. He has the most 1st down catches @ 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m guessing a great deal of what’s left of the fan base is gone today! Empty stadium from here on out. Lol I was thinking that... traffic going to the Bears game this Sunday shouldn’t be too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said: Well you should thank your lucky stars for them or you wouldn't have any pro sports teams in Buffalo. They are doing the best they can. Both franchises were a complete mess. Sabres look like they are going to be very competitive this year and I think you're jumping the gun on the Bills. I think they'll need at least two more years before they are an elite team, but I do believe that management is taking the right approach. You just need to have a little patience. McDermott and Beane have been on the job less than two full seasons. You can be happy they kept the team here and still criticize them for their complete ineptitude in running the two teams so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 As far as trades go, I figured if they planned on moving Shady, they would not let him have that many touches last night. But since, he's healthy and we suck, I am not opposed to seeing Shady, Benjamin and Clay move on and see what we have in the youth. Croom cost me $600 last night by not hauling it in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: As far as trades go, I figured if they planned on moving Shady, they would not let him have that many touches last night. But since, he's healthy and we suck, I am not opposed to seeing Shady, Benjamin and Clay move on and see what we have in the youth. Croom cost me $600 last night by not hauling it in! Cost me $250 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: You could get mid round picks for both if a contending team needs a DT and Pass Rusher. I would have to go thru the list of contenders and see if any are there. But also there goes McD “leadership counsel”. Not a chance. No NFL team ever trades for anyone in their mid 30s in the last year of their contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PearlHowardman said: It doesn't matter. The Buffalo Bills will never be a successful NFL team under the ownership of Terry & Kim Pegula. Same goes for the Buffalo Sabres. Sabres will be strong for years... Stay tuned... Edited October 30, 2018 by Believer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, McBean said: I saw the notebook paper Daboll had too. I busted out laughing. Good stuff The offensive version of Matt Patricia, complete with pencil tucked under his hat at a rakishly jaunty angle, because, those Surface Pros the NFL gives out are for losers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Every end of October, I hope for some blockbuster trade, similar to the way we got Cornelius Bennett. For too many years it's been like waiting for the Great Pumpkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, peace out said: McCoy Benjamin Kyle Lorax Lawson are the 5 candidates to be traded. I think 2 of those 5 go - Lorax and Benjamin Trading Lorax makes zero sense to me. Bc he's 35, you'll get little for him, but bc he's Lorax he just might play til he's 40 and almost certainly would take a favorable contract to play here longer. I don't see any reason to touch this defense right now. It's a similar story for Shaq: what you get will likely be almost nothing. And I doubt Kyle cares to go anywhere. Fire sale-ing for the sake of Fire Sale-ing is dumb. If someone bowls them over for McCoy, sure...and Amari Cooper trade shows you might be able to almost recoup investment in Kelvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Hopefully Benjamin, but if a GM trades for the lazy slob, they should be fired immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Nobody has any real trade value. Keep em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, PearlHowardman said: It doesn't matter. The Buffalo Bills will never be a successful NFL team under the ownership of Terry & Kim Pegula. Same goes for the Buffalo Sabres. Lol, this was said with Ralph Wilson and I venture to guess that it would be said under any owner until they start winning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Nothing will happen. Other teams will improve and Buffalo stays status quo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 My guess is the Bills do nothing. They'll talk about the value of draft picks and then on draft day trade them like drunken sailors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, The_Dude said: My guess is the Bills do nothing. They'll talk about the value of draft picks and then on draft day trade them like drunken sailors. And last year they got a middle linebacker who is 20, already a leader, and by all accounts looks like a budding superstar, a DT who has played very well so far, a CB who exceeded expectations, and we'll see what happens with Neal and Teller. That's not even mentioning Allen whose QB story has yet to be written. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Jerry Hughes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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