Sal Maiorana: Tremaine Edmunds "A Legit Star in the Making"

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

...and he’s forced the ball lose on multiple occasions. Let’s hope THAT continues! 

 

If Edmunds AND Allen reach their potential, this will be a draft for the ages. The stuff of legends. Bigger to us than the ‘83 QB draft. (I’m NOT saying it will happen, and Allen still has a longer way to go, but just IF.) 

 

I agree with you, plus CB Teron Johnson and DT Harrison Phillips also look promising at this point, here's to hoping my brothers. ??

[4merper4mer]

6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

You dont know what your talking about

Dude he got faked 15 times last week.  I think he'll get better but if he doesn't he won't be a star.

[Buddo]

Even allowing for his rookie status, the kid is making a few good plays a game, whether it be a QB pressure, a deflection, a pass breakup, whatever. In the grand scheme of things, imho, he’s doing the sorts of things we can hope for on a regular basis in the future, and I’m convinced it will be a good and significant one.

 

 I think we can be a lot more confident in him, than Allenby.

[John from Riverside]

21 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Dude he got faked 15 times last week.  I think he'll get better but if he doesn't he won't be a star.

This board is so how did the player play in the last game......

 

OVERALL through all the games he has been pretty darn good...not just for a rookie but for a starter

 

You can go just by one game and say "Duhhhhh  well if he wasnt better then his last game....Duhhhhhh"

Edited October 26, 2018 by John from Riverside

[ProcessTruster]

6 hours ago, DC Tom said:

Every time I hear the Bills have a "legit star in the making," I can't help thinking "Legit star...for another team."

yep. better hurry up and win something, bc he'll be gone after year 4 or 5 .  three/four years is a long time.  

 

I see the Bills being killer next year.   but that's just me .   ProcessTruster (aka 8&8Forever) .  go bills.  Trust the Process.  

 

Be scorin my seasons for next season from some bailer

Edited October 26, 2018 by ProcessTruster

[starrymessenger]

2 hours ago, TigerJ said:

Of course, he makes mistakes.  He's a freaking 20 year old rookie.  But he's taking on far more responsibility that most young rookies would be entrusted with, and he's doing a lot of things well.  He's learning as he goes, and he's already significantly better than his first game.

 

Well Luke Keukly was only 21. And Edmunds has not been the player LK was his rookie year (either before or after he took over at MLB). Somebody asked whether Edmunds was better than Ridley and #65. Ridley is legit as a #1 receiver IMO so the answer to that question is not obvious. 

Edmunds has all the physical traits, like Allen, but there is lots of room for needed improvement in his case too. 

[PlayoffsPlease]

6 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The best thing is that he is so young, if he really becomes great...10 years from now he could still only be 30 and have years left in the tank 

not trying to pick a fight. But in 10 years, there is no particular reason to think in the era of free agency he is any more likely to be in Buffalo than on any other team.  

[Comebackkid]

One would think some people on this board are never satisfied.   Player x doesn't play perfect every snap, every game, player x didn't wake to be the greatest of all time.   When we don't get recognition from outside reporters, the lowly bills are shunned and hated, when we do its not legit reporting and discredited. 

It's frustrating to read.   

 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Dude has made some good plays but I feel as if granting him future star status based on size, athleticism and age is unsubstantiated. 

 

“He’s 6-5 250lbs and runs sideline to sideline and he is only 20 years old” 

 

Nothing hear shows me he will develop MENTALLY which is where is game needs to improve. 

 

I hope he continues to grow, plays more decisive and can get off blocks by being in better position. I don’t doubt his physical strengths and the upside, but nothing I’ve seen so far has shown me “star in the making” more than say, Milano has. 

Edited October 27, 2018 by EmotionallyUnstable

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

This board is so how did the player play in the last game......

 

OVERALL through all the games he has been pretty darn good...not just for a rookie but for a starter

 

You can go just by one game and say "Duhhhhh  well if he wasnt better then his last game....Duhhhhhh"

You're right.  He's a superstar.  He's better than Singletary.  No need to improve.

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

You're right.  He's a superstar.  He's better than Singletary.  No need to improve.

No he is a superstar in the making just like the op stated it

 

unreal potential. Already good

[Nelius]

"This left the middle of the field looking like a downtown Rochester intersection at midnight — meaning there was no one there —"

 

Yeesh. Sal, whether it's writing 101 or comedy 101, you should know that your readers get it the first time. 

Cool read. though. Poyer comparing him to a giant horse is inspiring.

[Kelly the Dog]

4 hours ago, Success said:

I love our Tre’s.

Me, too. But one would think we need three of them. 

[Nelius]

3 hours ago, Búfalo Blanco said:

Get out of here with that type of positivity! Don't you know the instant gratification crowd wants all offense, all the time NAO!!!! Defense no longer wins championships... get a no-huddle, air raid offense and watch the Lombardi trophies pile up. No need for defense! Trade Edmunds for Tyreek Hill NAO! Git er' done McBeane!!! 

 

It's not exactly fun to watch and spend money on a horrible team while hoping that they may be good in 2, 3, 8 years. There are bright spots and I agree that Edmunds is one of them, but people have every right to complain.

[4merper4mer]

19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

No he is a superstar in the making just like the op stated it

 

unreal potential. Already good

Making = not made = needs to improve = what I said.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

Making = not made = needs to improve = what I said.

Your totally splitting hairs in intrepetation and you know it

[4merper4mer]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Your totally splitting hairs in intrepetation and you know it

My hairs were splitting but I used a special shampoo.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

My hairs were splitting but I used a special shampoo.

Fair enough......in all truthfullness so do I

[MJS]

9 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Thinking the mileage is more important than the year...

 

That's partly true, but it is also about your body being able to heal up from the punishment each week. After 30, healing slows down. Guys take punishment and aren't able to come back from it like they used to. Edmunds should be able to have a longer career than normal.

 

Plus a lot of Linebackers play well into their 30's as it is.

[Kwai San]

6 hours ago, KW95 said:

To be honest, I haven't really noticed him this year.  He's played almost every snap.  I've noticed more of Peterman against the Texans than I have all year with Edmunds.

 

 

 So you watched like 2 games so far this year is what you are saying........

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

You're right.  He's a superstar.  He's better than Singletary.  No need to improve.

All or nothing.....gotta love it.

[KDIGGZ]

He's good...just not at MLB. He's being wasted there. He doesn't have the instincts or the toughness to plug gaps and take on blockers. He will be a great OLB when they wise up and make the move. The problem is they don't have anyone else who can play in the middle. Looking forward to when the next coaching regime comes in and we get to see him be an all purpose athlete on the outside wreacking havic

[Freddie's Dead]

Fo' sho.

[billsredneck1]

9 hours ago, NewEra said:

Up til last week, he was.  He was picked on last week.  He and Milano looked pretty bad from my seat on the couch.  Seemed to like reich told luck to attack those guys all day and he did.  Poyer also missed on a few crucial plays

yeah , luck played mind games with those two and had them out of position all day.  was that m. mack on the top of the screen with no one within a mile?

 

also, poyer seemed to put the defense's attitude on display with his kb kind of effort on that touchdown pass.

18 minutes ago, WRONG JOSH said:

He's good...just not at MLB. He's being wasted there. He doesn't have the instincts or the toughness to plug gaps and take on blockers. He will be a great OLB when they wise up and make the move. The problem is they don't have anyone else who can play in the middle. Looking forward to when the next coaching regime comes in and we get to see him be an all purpose athlete on the outside wreacking havic

that's probably the plan when lorax retires. right now they need him in the middle calling plays.  i hope he clotheslines gronk.

[GreggTX]

Just as a reference, his Madden rating hasn't budged at all this year due to plays like the one Sal highlights in the article. I still think he has a bright future, though. We'll just have to wait to see how high his ceiling is.

[Búfalo Blanco]

7 hours ago, Nelius said:

 

It's not exactly fun to watch and spend money on a horrible team while hoping that they may be good in 2, 3, 8 years. There are bright spots and I agree that Edmunds is one of them, but people have every right to complain.

Hey, complain away... I’m no hall monitor. People will complain, and in Bills Land they love to. At the same time, I can make fun of the simpleton cynics if I so choose. This is no longer Wilson’s team. Pegula has had the franchise for only 4 years. Give it time. Yeah, he had a rookie mistake in hiring Rex. He’s made up for that, I believe. If Beane/McDermott are still failing in Year 4, then by all means call for their heads. I’ll likely be there too. But, this is a long term project with a small market team with a whole lot of bad luck. They need time... unfortunately, today’s fanbase has NO patience for long term process. Call it instant gratification addiction (people get what they want, when they want these days at home). Doesn’t work that way with fandom. Takes time to build a real team. The armchair GMs who are calling for heads after 24 games have NO clue about long term strategy. Let them work on the offense now, with several draft picks, salary cap space finally and a young defense that looks pretty solid (with a few more tweaks). If Allen is not progressing by late 2019-early 2020, and there are still MAJOR issues, then by all means, look at another GM/HC solution. But this knee jerk, short attention span, black and white millennial type impatient rage is folly. Learn some patience.. or wash, rinse, repeat every 2-3 years. 

 

Having said that, I believe Edmunds will be a great player... We’ll see on Allen/the offense. Give it some time, for F’s sake... the b**chiness is getting irritating. 

Edited October 27, 2018 by Búfalo Blanco

[4merper4mer]

10 hours ago, Kwai San said:

 So you watched like 2 games so far this year is what you are saying........

All or nothing.....gotta love it.

He has to improve.  Personally I think he will.  I also am aware there is a difference between thinking and knowing.

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

I would trade Tre, Edmunds, and Allen for Mahomes and possibly Watson. ? 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

This guy is so young and starting, I don't see him making that many mistakes out there. With the way the NFL is trending with passing attacks running wild I think in a few years he will be the best at what he does.

[GoBills808]

2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

This guy is so young and starting, I don't see him making that many mistakes out there. With the way the NFL is trending with passing attacks running wild I think in a few years he will be the best at what he does.

So do I. I think the majority of his issues right now are not wanting to make mistakes, he gets caught out of position imo because he's overthinking his reads/responsibilities. Once he lets his instincts adjust to the pro speed and gets a season's worth of looks under his belt I think he's going to dominate.

 

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I would trade Tre, Edmunds, and Allen for Mahomes and possibly Watson. ? 

Then we could complain about watching Allen dominate with Hunt/Hill/Kelce or Hopkins/Fuller while Mahomes and Watson struggle with Benjamin et al. Plus if we did that the Chiefs would actually have a defense, and the Texans would probably be the best defense in the league...imagine them with Clowney/Watt up front, Edmunds in the middle, and a shutdown corner in White taking away half the field. 

[Roundybout]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I would trade Tre, Edmunds, and Allen for Mahomes and possibly Watson. ? 

 

The same Watson we stomped two weeks ago? The same Watson that has the best wide reciever in the league with a solid offensive mind in O Brian? That Watson?

[GunnerBill]

19 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

This board is so how did the player play in the last game......

 

OVERALL through all the games he has been pretty darn good...not just for a rookie but for a starter

 

You can go just by one game and say "Duhhhhh  well if he wasnt better then his last game....Duhhhhhh"

 

I am sorry John I just don't agree. That isn't what is on the tape. He has been misdiagnosing plays and in the wrong position pretty consistently. He played well in Minn and decent in Houston... other than that he has been pretty bad. A lot of it can be attributed to a rookie who is only 20 and very much learning on the job, it isn't panic time. 

 

I just think it is totally unfair to say fans are only looking at last week.

[John from Riverside]

28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am sorry John I just don't agree. That isn't what is on the tape. He has been misdiagnosing plays and in the wrong position pretty consistently. He played well in Minn and decent in Houston... other than that he has been pretty bad. A lot of it can be attributed to a rookie who is only 20 and very much learning on the job, it isn't panic time. 

 

I just think it is totally unfair to say fans are only looking at last week.

Gunner you and I both know that a lot of these posters are looking at last week

 

the thing is the kid is so damn athletic that he makes up being out of position with freak speed and this defense is not top 10 dova without him

 

as he gains experience it’s just gonna get better

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

The same Watson we stomped two weeks ago? The same Watson that has the best wide reciever in the league with a solid offensive mind in O Brian? That Watson?

 

Yea - I'd do that trade in a nano second. 

[BADOLBILZ]

22 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

I don't see them moving him.  The modern NFL defense only plays two LBs.  Milano is doing too well at OLB for the Bills to play games with Edmunds.  If they drafted another MLB, I think it would only be for depth.  

 

 

Yeah that's the problem............if he's not a MLB.......which me might not be if you actually watch all of the mistakes he makes........then he's overqualified athletically for OLB.........where they already have a more instinctive player in Milano.  

 

That's why I see it as MLB or edge rusher.    

 

We've seen plenty of freakish young players(20-21 year olds) drafted by the Bills who looked like future HOF'ers very early on.........and you didn't have to squint as hard to see it as you do with Edmunds.......and all of those guys ended up out the door with a "good riddance" from much of the fanbase.

[Coach Tuesday]

28 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah that's the problem............if he's not a MLB.......which me might not be if you actually watch all of the mistakes he makes........then he's overqualified athletically for OLB.........where they already have a more instinctive player in Milano.  

 

That's why I see it as MLB or edge rusher.    

 

We've seen plenty of freakish young players(20-21 year olds) drafted by the Bills who looked like future HOF'ers very early on.........and you didn't have to squint as hard to see it as you do with Edmunds.......and all of those guys ended up out the door with a "good riddance" from much of the fanbase.

 

Correct.  He either cuts out 95% of the mistakes by the middle of next season or you make him an edge rusher - it's one or the other.  I think the Bills drafted him understanding that his "floor" was an Uber-athletic passrush specialist.

[blacklabel]

On 10/26/2018 at 4:06 PM, John from Riverside said:

ppl so easily forget that the word on the board was our linebackers were sorely lacking.....then Preston Brown left in free agency.

 

Nobody is saying that now......

 

Exactly. And even as of late I've seen people saying they should've kept Brown and drafted an offensive player over Edmunds. 

 

I think Brown is a decent LB but he doesn't have the athleticism to regularly run with RBs or TEs which is something McDermott's system asks for from the linebackers. I think they definitely see a "do it all" player in Edmunds. 

[26CornerBlitz]