Augie Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: So what happens to NFL players who have criminal records and can't leave the country? Call in sick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Here's their new theme song: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, dpberr said: Wouldn't it make more sense just to relocate the team elsewhere in the United States if the JAX market isn't a viable one? That plan of his is so stupid. Goodell wants teams in other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, PeterDude said: Goodell wants teams in other countries. Plus London is, you know, a genuinely effing great city. Far freaking better than Jax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, PeterDude said: Goodell wants teams in other countries. Right. But logistically speaking, scheduling 8 games a year with at least one team traveling across the Atlantic would be a nightmare. I've always thought Toronto would be a great city to put a permanent NFL team, just not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Right. But logistically speaking, scheduling 8 games a year with at least one team traveling across the Atlantic would be a nightmare. I've always thought Toronto would be a great city to put a permanent NFL team, just not ours. Toronto doesn't have a stadium for NFL requirements, nor apparently one going up soon. How would you accommodate the Buffalo Bills with another team moving in so close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) The NFL would allow this in a heartbeat. They'd love to have a Rollerball "Jonathan"(1975 movie version) kind of world presence. Edited October 11, 2018 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 London! You know...bad food, worse weather, Marry !@#$ing Poppins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the Jags will have to provide tax-free player contracts/pay their taxes for them if they play 4 games/year there. Players on all teams get a one game tax bill when they play in London. exactly. Who is going to want to play v. the Jags in London w/ that tax bill. One hang-up. If someone pays your taxes for you, that amount is then taxed as income (at least under IRS rules) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Which national anthem will be sung at Wembley? What if a player turns their back on the Queen? This gonna get ugly. Over here we really don't care that much about the anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I remember when the Packers used to split their home games between Green Bay and Milwaukee. I don’t really care what they do, it’s Jacksonville, still surprised they ever got an NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, Jasovon said: Over here we really don't care that much about the anthem. I just posted this on the Queen’s Twitter @QueenMother. Shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Fro a while, I doubted Jacksonville as a viable NFL market. I know they had to tarp off sections of the upper deck at times. Over the past few years, I think they have settled in and have developed a decent fan base. I think they should remain there. When Khan bought the team, it was easy to see what his long term play was. I always thought it was his plan to move them to London or the majority of the games would be played there. I'd say it would make more sense to relocate the Chargers to London (or any other city capable of supporting the NFL). They are never going to be accepted in LA and will always play second fiddle to the Rams. If they have a hard time filling that tiny stadium, wait until they move into the new one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, Rico said: I remember when the Packers used to split their home games between Green Bay and Milwaukee. I don’t really care what they do, it’s Jacksonville, still surprised they ever got an NFL team. The White Sox played at County Stadium between the Braves and Brewers franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Aren’t the Jags undefeated there? As cool as it would be, it makes no sense to have a team in London. They would be at such a disadvantage. Apart from the first few years when they were destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Breaking: Jalen Ramsey announces if you give him 6 weeks, he could start for Manchester United. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 It's funny, the media make it sound like the NFL is really popular there, but it isn't. It's a tiny minority sport with a small section of hardcore fans. They're the ones who fill Wembley but all attend in the jerseys of the teams they support. No way they would change allegiance to support the Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 It’s probably likely they slowly move to London. Khan wants to make money. I’d rather see him go to Toronto and keep us safe. we’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s probably likely they slowly move to London. Khan wants to make money. I’d rather see him go to Toronto and keep us safe. we’ll see. People don't like to hear this but Toronto is our market and I hope as the Pegula's become more prominent in the NFL that they assert this to the other owners. Don't take my statement as any desire to move the team there. Keep the Bills in Erie County. I think that setting a franchise in Toronto is detrimental to the long term health of the Bills in WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: I am so glad this isn't us. what a joke and a slap to the face of actual Jags fans. Here, buy our merchandise and support us in Jacksonville...at least 4 times a year, and never in January as he'll want any playoff games to be in London. If he's going to go, suck it up and go. Don't pussyfoot around it. If I am a Jax fan, im pissed- no way do I want a part time team. They will lose their fan base there. Heck, it really isnt all that good unless they are winning. If I am a free agent I wouldn’t want to play for the Jags. I would have to play at least 4 games with extra travel/jet lag. What happens when, after a game in London, the team turns around and heads to the West Coast- that subtracts 8-9 hours and more jet lag. Talk about a huge disadvantage. If I am on the Jags, there is always going to be another thing looming- will Khan see masive dollars signs and move to London permanently. Now players will be forced to move to Europe- uprooting families is never a great thing. Lastly, and not being racist- London has a lovely, radicalized, Little Islam thing going on there. They better look long and hard at safety/security. Talk about a juicy little target! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: London! You know...bad food, worse weather, Marry !@#$ing Poppins! Food is great in London. Jacksonville smells like raw sewage and fine dining is a place that has sliders on a "tasting menu"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: People don't like to hear this but Toronto is our market and I hope as the Pegula's become more prominent in the NFL that they assert this to the other owners. Don't take my statement as any desire to move the team there. Keep the Bills in Erie County. I think that setting a franchise in Toronto is detrimental to the long term health of the Bills in WNY. agreed, i don't want a team here in Toronto, Buffalo has to keep the Bills, more authentic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 If it gets Doug Marrone out of the country, I'm all for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: London! You know...bad food, worse weather, Marry !@#$ing Poppins! Bad food?!? When was the last time you were there?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I for one can wait for Superbowl LXXV in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 How in the hell does someone amass this much money while being so stupid? Moving a team to London??? Worst idea ever! Even having games outside the USA bastardizes the NFL. The games in London are a joke just like the Bills in Toronto series was, same as the games in Mexico. Keep all the games in the USA and stop ruining the league with this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 hours ago, dpberr said: Wouldn't it make more sense just to relocate the team elsewhere in the United States if the JAX market isn't a viable one? That plan of his is so stupid. It's not so much JAX isn't viable its that London is farrrr more $. Think St. Louis vs LA when that happened. St. Louis had agreed to a brand new beautiful waterfront stadium and the NFL/Rams still said no preferring a privately funded LA stadium because the $ implications were far greater. Market loyalty is a fallacy in the NFL it is simply about the $ and maximizing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, PeterDude said: Goodell wants teams in other countries. Yes, NFL Europe was such a success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, row_33 said: agreed, i don't want a team here in Toronto, Buffalo has to keep the Bills, more authentic The name of the game is number of households tuned to a NFL game for ad revenue and the 4 county area of extreme WNY just will not get it done for the NFL today. The Jets might be a distant 2nd in NYC to the Giants but the two teams are broadcast on different networks and at different times when possible. The Jets are under no pressure to move because they still bring in millions of households in the tri-state area for each broadcast. The population is just too large to fail there. Edited October 11, 2018 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s probably likely they slowly move to London. Khan wants to make money. I’d rather see him go to Toronto and keep us safe. we’ll see. the Bills are safe and better off with no team in Toronto as there is no competition for any revenue currently coming from there. At this point, the NFL ever moving to Toronto is a huge longshot. The best chance they ever had was a few years ago and they blew it. If the powers that be had come together with a bid that did not include Bon Jovi and laid out a plan for a new NFL stadium, Pegula would have been toast. Even as wealthy as Pegula is, Rodgers has more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: lol welcome to socialism boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Rico said: I remember when the Packers used to split their home games between Green Bay and Milwaukee. I don’t really care what they do, it’s Jacksonville, still surprised they ever got an NFL team. Green Bay and Milwaukee are in close proximity and share the same fan base. London and Jax is a much larger hurdle. I do agree with you- im surprised they have a team as well. That said, I dont want to see any team moving out of the Continental United States- I think the greed of it clouds all the other issues that will pop up. I do respect your opinion thou. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SF Bills Fan said: the Bills are safe and better off with no team in Toronto as there is no competition for any revenue currently coming from there. At this point, the NFL ever moving to Toronto is a huge longshot. The best chance they ever had was a few years ago and they blew it. If the powers that be had come together with a bid that did not include Bon Jovi and laid out a plan for a new NFL stadium, Pegula would have been toast. Even as wealthy as Pegula is, Rodgers has more. Never underestimate the NFL's appetite for expansion money. The Chargers or Raiders could have just as easily been relocation candidates to Toronto just a couple years ago as they were in line for new stadiums where they plan to be in the near future. Moving the Jags would take the pressure off of the Florida market as I never thought that Florida could support three teams. So better London than Toronto. Edited October 11, 2018 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: London! You know...bad food, worse weather, Marry !@#$ing Poppins! London is one of the best cities in the world to eat. It is just that we don't tell American visitors where the good places are, because we would not want to harm their preconceptions. We're friendly like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 the NFL wants foreign teams even if it puts additional pressure on players physical and mental health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Food is great in London. Jacksonville smells like raw sewage and fine dining is a place that has sliders on a "tasting menu"... 32 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Bad food?!? When was the last time you were there?? 2 minutes ago, Brit said: London is one of the best cities in the world to eat. It is just that we don't tell American visitors where the good places are, because we would not want to harm their preconceptions. We're friendly like that. Calm down. It’s a movie quote. Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels. Guy Ritchie? Know it? Jeez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, SF Bills Fan said: the Bills are safe and better off with no team in Toronto as there is no competition for any revenue currently coming from there. At this point, the NFL ever moving to Toronto is a huge longshot. The best chance they ever had was a few years ago and they blew it. If the powers that be had come together with a bid that did not include Bon Jovi and laid out a plan for a new NFL stadium, Pegula would have been toast. Even as wealthy as Pegula is, Rodgers has more. I dont think they blew it so much as fell victim to a perfect storm of sorts. It started with Ted Rogers passing away. It was his goal to bring the NFL to Toronto and he made a deal with Wilson to dip their toes in the water. He expected people to be rabid about the games, planting the flag for their own team, and pricing was too high, which kept people away, bad press, etc. Not to mention the SkyDome is a drab facility. I have little doubt that if Toronto had their own team, it would have been well attended. The deal fizzled a bit, they gave back the preseason games as well as their need for a Divisional, or at least 'interesting' match up. The Bills stunk, keeping out relevancy as well as Bills fans. Meanwhile, we had a multi-billionaire sports fan with local ties burst onto the scene in 2010-2011. Then, we had a new lease with a strong NRA. Before the paint was even dry on the stadium improvements Mr. Wilson passed away, putting the team up for auction. With several years remaining on the lease. Outside bidders had a bad deal with the NRA. Would need a new stadium $, plus relocation fee $, plus the purchase of the team $, plus possible $500 million and/or legal fees, along with some pretty ugly lame-duck seasons in Buffalo. Would be a horrible investment and probably would more than double the purchase price. Rogers has enough money, but since his passing, his family, as I understand it has fragmented a bit and a lot of the money is locked up a bit, and some in dispute. The Rogers Communications Company had recently made a splash with a $5.2 Billion dollar NHL deal (announced like 4 months before Mr. Wilson passed away) that was already looking like a poor investment. MLSE and Bon Jovi did not have the loot to compete with Pegula, plus have enough to cover the additional cost of a relocation and facilities. No matter how badly the NFL probably would rather the Bills play in Toronto, there was no possible way to do so. Edited October 11, 2018 by May Day 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the Jags will have to provide tax-free player contracts/pay their taxes for them if they play 4 games/year there. Players on all teams get a one game tax bill when they play in London. Seems like a salary cap issue......if allowed what about teams in TX and FLA where they don't pay state taxes. The Bills should then ask fpr the same deal. What i don;t know if players playing one game there a year have to pay UK taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The name of the game is number of households tuned to a NFL game for ad revenue and the 4 county area of extreme WNY just will not get it done for the NFL today. The Jets might be a distant 2nd in NYC to the Giants but the two teams are broadcast on different networks and at different times when possible. The Jets are under no pressure to move because they still bring in millions of households in the tri-state area for each broadcast. The population is just too large to fail there. yup, and those who wanted an NFL team in Toronto are no longer pushing the agenda of a decade ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I was under the assumption that Jacksonville couldn't fill it's stadium, but I just looked at their attendance numbers for the past few years and they've been solid. I could understand how a move to London could increase the overall value of the franchise, but how does playing a few games a year there as he Jacksonville Jaguars really benefit Khan? If the NFL wants a team in London, then do a divisional realignment and send the Chargers there. They're hated in both Los Angeles and San Diego now and have zero fanbase outside of the fans coming to support their opponents. They're a quality team and they can't even fill a 20,000 seat soccer stadium. London Chargers join the East, Dolphins move to the AFC South and Houston/Indy can slot into the AFC West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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