YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) Quote The Daily Mail reports that Khan’s staff is examining how to limit the taxes he will pay in the United Kingdom when bringing the Jaguars to Wembley. According to the report, Khan is looking at basing the Jaguars in Jacksonville while playing their home games in London. Khan would need to make sure he can do that while keeping his own tax bill in check, as well as keeping in mind that free agents aren’t going to want to play for the Jaguars if they’re subject to the UK’s higher taxes on high incomes. It wouldn’t make any sense to play all eight games in London while basing the team in Jacksonville, but one option that could make sense is playing four home games a year at Wembley Stadium and the other four in Jacksonville, while keeping the team facility in Florida. That would allow him to keep his word to remain in Jacksonville while also maximizing his revenue, as the Jaguars reportedly make more money for the games they play in London than for the games they play in Jacksonville. Edited October 11, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Wankas.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 When I saw he was going to purchase Wembley stadium I was pretty sure that was going to happen. The logistics on this are a nightmare though. It will be interesting to watch this play out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Which national anthem will be sung at Wembley? What if a player turns their back on the Queen? This gonna get ugly. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Wouldn't it make more sense just to relocate the team elsewhere in the United States if the JAX market isn't a viable one? That plan of his is so stupid. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think the Jags will have to provide tax-free player contracts/pay their taxes for them if they play 4 games/year there. Players on all teams get a one game tax bill when they play in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Aren’t the Jags undefeated there? As cool as it would be, it makes no sense to have a team in London. They would be at such a disadvantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, dpberr said: Wouldn't it make more sense just to relocate the team elsewhere in the United States if the JAX market isn't a viable one? That plan of his is so stupid. I think the nfl wants it too. The owners will vote for it if it makes them money I assume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 @BringBackFergy @JauronimoThis is what will happen when the NFL finds out that Pegula also owns the Sabres. Four games max in the WNY area, then four in Ontario, or Hamilton or something. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 DUVAL!! oh wait... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Which national anthem will be sung at Wembley? What if a player turns their back on the Queen? This gonna get ugly. come on Fergs..... They KNEEL to the Queen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: come on Fergs..... They KNEEL to the Queen!!! So does that mean Kaepernick will stand if he ever plays in London? Or if they play both anthems he will stand then kneel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: come on Fergs..... They KNEEL to the Queen!!! If the Queen is sitting up in the Royal Box Seats along the 50 yd line, then one of the teams will have their back to her (of course, it depends if she is sitting on the “home” side or “visitor” side). Either way, one of the teams will be subject to the guillotine (53 deaths) or, worse yet, eating English food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 It would suck to be on the Jags if this happens, especially if you have a family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, dpberr said: Wouldn't it make more sense just to relocate the team elsewhere in the United States if the JAX market isn't a viable one? That plan of his is so stupid. It's a way to pair up two culturally similar cities like Jacksonville and London in a joint love of a football tea. I believe Paris and Cleveland, and Tokyo and Indianapolis are also in the works. Seriously though I think it's less stupid than it is greedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I am so glad this isn't us. what a joke and a slap to the face of actual Jags fans. Here, buy our merchandise and support us in Jacksonville...at least 4 times a year, and never in January as he'll want any playoff games to be in London. If he's going to go, suck it up and go. Don't pussyfoot around it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Athletes pay taxes wherever their games are played. They need to file in numerous states. I wonder how complicated that is when crossing over internationally. IMO they should poop or get off the pot with this. The "the bike will be both of ours, we'll just keep it at my house" thing is silly and a way to stunt the growth of the fanbase on both ends. 4 games and 4 games is an awful idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 yeah, the jags owner is an idiot. hey nimrod, nfl is an american sport. hope he chokes on his tea and crumpets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the nfl wants it too. The owners will vote for it if it makes them money I assume. Good grief, Why? It would be a logistical nightmare for both the Jags and for their opponents. How could they be sure it would make them money enough to compensate for all the extra expenses? Canadian fans didn't exactly "take" to NFL games and they have American football of their own. Where's @GunnerBillto weigh in here? Between Soccer, Rugby, and if they want something exotic Gaelic football or Hurling - um, now to put this politely? Many Brits and Europeans that I've known actually regard American Football as, er, um............. somewhat UNMANLY. Giles the Librarian's quote from Buffy kind of sums up the attitude: " I think it’s rather odd that a nation that prides itself on its virility should feel compelled to strap on forty pounds of protective gear just to play a game like rugby." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Aren’t the Jags undefeated there? As cool as it would be, it makes no sense to have a team in London. They would be at such a disadvantage. Is that where the Bills forgot to put new batteries in Rex's headset, and the BIlls completed a pass with the WR standing 6 yards out of bounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Kahn is taking regionalization to a whole new level. I don't think the other owners will be united on this one. The competition issues are pretty significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Will their fans still chant, "DUUUUUUUVAAAALLLLLLLLLL"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the Jags will have to provide tax-free player contracts/pay their taxes for them if they play 4 games/year there. Players on all teams get a one game tax bill when they play in London. Not sure that is legal...even if it was, why wouldn't every player in the NFL demand that their owner pay for any road game state taxes? They would never sign a free agent. 27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the nfl wants it too. The owners will vote for it if it makes them money I assume. Not sure how it makes any other owner any real extra money. Splitting a slight higher take from the gate at Wembly vs Jags stadium? That would be eaten up with one trip to London for a non-Jags team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 so the schedule will give the Pats the home game against the London Jags the week after the Pats have the bye? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Athletes pay taxes wherever their games are played. They need to file in numerous states. I wonder how complicated that is when crossing over internationally. IMO they should poop or get off the pot with this. The "the bike will be both of ours, we'll just keep it at my house" thing is silly and a way to stunt the growth of the fanbase on both ends. 4 games and 4 games is an awful idea They said anytime they play there they get a giant tax bill in the mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Which national anthem will be sung at Wembley? What if a player turns their back on the Queen? This gonna get ugly. Get there early...I heard they’re going with 99 Bottles of Stout on the Wall. The practical implications of this are enormous. How do you pull this off? You think going from the west coast to Jax was bad? This makes our Toronto deal look like a good idea. What am I missing? Edited October 11, 2018 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 So what happens to NFL players who have criminal records and can't leave the country? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: So what happens to NFL players who have criminal records and can't leave the country? or get back into the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, CLTbills said: Will their fans still chant, "DUUUUUUUVAAAALLLLLLLLLL"? "KKKKKKKKKKHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the Jags will have to provide tax-free player contracts/pay their taxes for them if they play 4 games/year there. Players on all teams get a one game tax bill when they play in London. The players get taxed from all angles. I read an article about why the Texans low ball somewhat because 10 of their games are played in states without an income tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the Jags will have to provide tax-free player contracts/pay their taxes for them if they play 4 games/year there. Players on all teams get a one game tax bill when they play in London. Paying the players' income taxes would still count against the salary cap would it not? If this flies then you will see a whole bunch of new stadiums in Delaware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, row_33 said: so the schedule will give the Pats the home game against the London Jags the week after the Pats have the bye? Precisely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Paying the players' income taxes would still count against the salary cap would it not? If this flies then you will see a whole bunch of new stadiums in Delaware. Shield has the right to do whatever it wants in the best interests of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Shield has the right to do whatever it wants in the best interests of the game Come again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Come again? All leagues reserve the right to bend whatever rules they have established if they feel doing so is in the best interests of the game. The NFL would have no trouble overcoming tax codes and treaties, it has that much heft behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Do we have to call them the JAG-U-ARES? How many seats will be tarped in Wembley? Can't use the old ones from Jacksonville because they use metric measurements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said: I am so glad this isn't us. what a joke and a slap to the face of actual Jags fans. Here, buy our merchandise and support us in Jacksonville...at least 4 times a year, and never in January as he'll want any playoff games to be in London. If he's going to go, suck it up and go. Don't pussyfoot around it. He would probably have the preseason games in Jacksonville too. Stick it to the season ticket holders to pay for the meaningless games while London gets everything that counts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: Which national anthem will be sung at Wembley? What if a player turns their back on the Queen? This gonna get ugly. This opens up Pegula like questions of can he won a team in two countries etc etc. We knew it was a slippery slope they created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: "KKKKKKKKKKHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!" I've never understood it. It'd be like Bills fans chanting, "EEEEEEEERRRRRRIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!" You're chanting for the county you play in? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, dpberr said: Wouldn't it make more sense just to relocate the team elsewhere in the United States if the JAX market isn't a viable one? That plan of his is so stupid. I think a London team is a great idea, actually. I'm all for it. And screw Jax - they should never have gotten a team in the first place, and the fan support there is abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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