WotAGuy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Saw this on the OT broadcast; there’s being ballsy, and then there’s just being dumb. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/colts-frank-reich-makes-worst-decision-nfl-season-212039108.html “The Indianapolis Colts coach did it with guts and bravado, just like his previous employer – the Philadelphia Eagles – taught him to do. But that’s not going to help Reich’s Colts, who essentially gave away a tie when Reich inconceivably called for a fourth-and-4 shotgun pass from his own 43-yard line with 27 seconds left in overtime against the Houston Texans. The rest is history: The Colts failed to convert. Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson connected on a 19-yard pass and Houston made a 37-yard field goal to win the game in overtime. And if that wasn’t bad enough, the Texans actually missed the game-winning field goal attempt initially, only to have that mistake nullified by a timeout called by Reich.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Call me crazy, but I actually agree with the call...you play to win the game! ? 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I'd take Reich over McDumbass any day of the week. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The decision to go for it was fine. The play call and execution was not. Play to win. A tie is stupid. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Played for the win instead of a tie. Ballsy call, it was the wrong play but a gutsy call. Good on Reich. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I liked it. I thought the broadcast team was annoying, acting like it was such an obvious decision. We’ve seen belicheck make similar calls, and even not get the first down to lose the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, QB Bills said: I'd take Reich over McDumbass any day of the week. Based on what exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If you don't think that was the right call, you shouldn't be discussing football. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I thought it was a great call, poorly executed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) With only 27 seconds left? So, even if you get the first down you have to go pry 15 more yards and rely on your kicker to make a long field goal. The odds of you winning by making the first down are less than the odds of you losing if you miss it. Watch them go 9-7 and miss the playoffs due to a tiebreaker. Edited October 1, 2018 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I don’t have a problem with the call at all. He punts and the best case scenario would be a tie. He went for the W, it just didn’t work out this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 It was a bad decision. The Colts had the game in hand and let Watson march down the field for the tie. When the 4th down came up in OT, he tried to draw Houston offside and took the offense off the field, then sent them back out. The momentum, if they had any, was shot at that point and it just felt like it wasn’t going to work and it didn’t. A tie is better than a loss and the circumstances just pointed to failure in this case. I think that’s why the announcers had a fit. It just felt like a bad decision and it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I love that Reich went for it. Give me a coach who is aggressive over one that is timid. Vrabel did same thing today for Tennessee and they won. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Based on what exactly Many things. One being that McDumbass wouldn't have even considered going for it there. He's a younger, repackaged dick jauron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: With only 27 seconds left? So, even if you get the first down you have to go pry 15 more yards and rely on your kicker to make a long field goal. The odds of you winning by making the first down are less than the odds of you losing if you miss it. Watch them go 9-7 and miss the playoffs due to a tiebreaker. They had a timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Our coach not only played for a TIE last year, he did it in a game when a TIE would have eliminated us from playoff contention. So I'll take Reich, thanks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: A tie is better than a loss... This is a loser mentality. He wasn’t focused on a tie or a loss, but a win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The decision to go for it was fine. The play call and execution was not. Play to win. A tie is stupid. But if you go 0-0-16 you can say you’re undefeated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Frank Reich is a nice guy, and a family man. He was always such a good young man. Now he is a NFL head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Have no issue with Reich making the call—players have to execute. As for the kick, I also think trying to ice the kicker was also pretty much obligatory: https://mixpanel.com/blog/2016/11/22/nfl-data-icing-the-kicker/ finally, would’ve loved to have Reich as a HC also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Never really liked the Colts but have an interest in seeing them do well this year because Franks their coach. I want him to be able to shut people up that think he can only be an offensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 i dont have a problem with the call...its just a lack of execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, QB Bills said: Many things. One being that McDumbass wouldn't have even considered going for it there. He's a younger, repackaged dick jauron Would Jauron have turned the season around last year after the Saints/Chargers debacle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Our coach not only played for a TIE last year, he did it in a game when a TIE would have eliminated us from playoff contention. So I'll take Reich, thanks. Unless I'm mistaken our coach won and theirs lost...and we made the playoffs. Admittedly, I prefer Reich's aggressiveness. But I also prefer wins over losses or ties. No guarantee either way at the point the decisions have to be made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, QB Bills said: I'd take Reich over McDumbass any day of the week. Gotta agree every time I see Clappy McDumbass clapping when we fumble or throw an int I want to punch him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I thought it was a great call, poorly executed You are getting dangerously close to the third rail of Kim Jung QB criticism. Cool your jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He still has the player mentality, a player goes for the win. Most coaches who never played or haven’t played in decades would play for the tie instead because it’s better for their record. He has a kicker that’s hit a 57 hit field goal this year so I suppose if you can get enough yardage you try the long kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Call me crazy, but I actually agree with the call...you play to win the game! ? Don't you know that coaches on bad teams who want to keep their jobs play for a noble tie in these situations? Imagine how thrilled Colts fans would be with a 1-2-1 record! Or you could just ensure the loss right out of the box by, say, cutting your only veteran QB and starting Nate Peterman. That evidently would make Bills fans happy. Edited October 1, 2018 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I have absolutely zero problem with what he did. If I was smart enough to figure out how to attach a GIF, I would attach the one of Herman Edwards, saying "you play to win the game!" If my coach had punted it there, i'd be throwing my remote at my TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 hours ago, QB Bills said: I'd take Reich over McDumbass any day of the week. lol, from McClappity to McDumbass, I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The decision to go for it was fine. The play call and execution was not. Play to win. A tie is stupid. ..pretty sure Frank was high on the list at TBD as a candidate for Bills' HC job if I remember correctly............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I agree 100% with this article. Without the benefit of hindsight you can’t justifiably call Mike Vrabel a genius for the risk he took yesterday and call Reich a moron for the one he took. https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/09/30/frank-reich-mike-vrabel-fourth-down-colts-titans/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 12 hours ago, WotAGuy said: It was a bad decision. The Colts had the game in hand and let Watson march down the field for the tie. When the 4th down came up in OT, he tried to draw Houston offside and took the offense off the field, then sent them back out. The momentum, if they had any, was shot at that point and it just felt like it wasn’t going to work and it didn’t. A tie is better than a loss and the circumstances just pointed to failure in this case. I think that’s why the announcers had a fit. It just felt like a bad decision and it was. I don't think that a tie is better than a loss unless it will directly affect playoff seating- which seems unlikely in this scenario. More to the point, you play to win the game. Always aggressive, always fighting. Coaches that do this get flamed when it goes poorly, but they get praised as geniuses when it goes well. It's a great paradox. Mike Vrabel made the same decision and won- how come no flack for him? Honestly I would rather lose than tie. A tie is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, PeterDude said: lol, from McClappity to McDumbass, I like it! you do? that's what were dealing with here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 It's odd how outcome dictates people's outlook. Vrabel is coach of the decade today and Reich is a laughingstock. Made essentially the same decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Play to win the game sorry OP it was a good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 There's been what, 3 games so far this season that have already ended in ties? Those ties have sparked the conversation that the NFL needs to look at their OT rules again and eliminate ties. And then a coach goes for the win instead of the tie and it's "the worst decision in the history of ever!! Aw gawd, I write sports in the internet and my freaking eyeballs are bleeding from the insanity that was this decision! Who doesn't go for the tie?!? Blllaaarrrggghhh!!" Seriously, peeps. Ignore the talking heads and the writers and pundits and bloggers and analysts and "experts" and all that BS. They are paid to share their opinions (often ****ty ones) and create debate. The schmuck that wrote this has succeeded in doing just that and he's making himself look like a moron in order to do it. No one wants ties. So what does this miraculous bag of rancid assh*les do? Writes the exact opposite and tada, it's click city. I hope this guy stubs his toe in the middle of the night on the way to the bathroom, trips, falls and wets his favorite Patriots jammy jam pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Based on what exactly It's the Monday after a loss. We're kinda bi-polar around here. Last week..."we have a chance to be pretty good!!", now... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I’d take Reich over McDermott; I’d rather have a coach who wants to win by outscoring the opponent than one who wants to win by keeping the opponent from scoring. The goal is the same, but the offensive philosophy is more entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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