CoachT Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The man is a genius. Hear me out.. It's no secret this offense is going to struggle. If you start Allen, he will likely struggle and the fans would start calling for Peterman to come in. This would likely create a distraction and hurt Allens confidence. So you start Peterman and wait for him to stink it up, which didn't take long. And now if Allen struggles, no-one will want to see the other guy(hopefully). Now this theory doesn't explain why he benched TT last year for this guy. Both Allen and TT are clearly better than Peterman. But i can't think of any other reason he would start Peterman. He is terrible. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CoachT said: The man is a genius. Hear me out.. It's no secret this offense is going to struggle. If you start Allen, he will likely struggle and the fans would start calling for Peterman to come in. This would likely create a distraction and hurt Allens confidence. So you start Peterman and wait for him to stink it up, which didn't take long. And now if Allen struggles, no-one will want to see the other guy(hopefully). Now this theory doesn't explain why he benched TT last year for this guy. Both Allen and TT are clearly better than Peterman. But i can't think of any other reason he would start Peterman. He is terrible. Your reaching there. McD is just another 1960s old school ultra conservative coach. That thinks you win with Defense and Running games Listen to him in Pressers. Close your eyes you will see Dicky J Edited September 10, 2018 by MAJBobby 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, CoachT said: The man is a genius. Hear me out.. It's no secret this offense is going to struggle. If you start Allen, he will likely struggle and the fans would start calling for Peterman to come in. This would likely create a distraction and hurt Allens confidence. So you start Peterman and wait for him to stink it up, which didn't take long. And now if Allen struggles, no-one will want to see the other guy(hopefully). Now this theory doesn't explain why he benched TT last year for this guy. Both Allen and TT are clearly better than Peterman. But i can't think of any other reason he would start Peterman. He is terrible. He could REALLY drive the point home by starting Peterman again this week. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Nobody in their right mind should ever be calling for np again if hes benched for good. Once its allen, it has to be allen until we know if hes the guy or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, CoachT said: The man is a genius. Hear me out.. It's no secret this offense is going to struggle. If you start Allen, he will likely struggle and the fans would start calling for Peterman to come in. This would likely create a distraction and hurt Allens confidence. So you start Peterman and wait for him to stink it up, which didn't take long. And now if Allen struggles, no-one will want to see the other guy(hopefully). Now this theory doesn't explain why he benched TT last year for this guy. Both Allen and TT are clearly better than Peterman. But i can't think of any other reason he would start Peterman. He is terrible. McD undermined the team and is essentially forfeiting games just in case Allen stinks up the place? Did he also blow up the OL and WRs to make sure Peterman would fail? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachT Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: Nobody in their right mind should ever be calling for np again if hes benched for good. Once its allen, it has to be allen until we know if hes the guy or not We are talking about Bills fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Your reaching there. McD is just another 1960s old school ultra conservative coach. That thinks you win with Defense and Running games Listen to him in Pressers. Close your eyes you will see Dicky J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: He is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Your reaching there. McD is just another 1960s old school ultra conservative coach. That thinks you win with Defense and Running games Listen to him in Pressers. Close your eyes you will see Dicky J That is how you win unless you have a good QB. If Allen is good you'll stop hearing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 what's most perplexing to me is what happened to the motion and the exotic schemes we saw/heard about in training camp? we came out and played the most vanilla offense possible, whilst jumping offsides to kill drives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Yipes. Sure looked like some Dick J maneuvers out there yesterday. Especially trying to hit a FG from a mile away in the rain, and also taking the FG when we were down by a million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Peterman started because he won the preseason battle and looked better than Allen behind a garbage O-line. However, Peterman is a backup. I like the guy, but preseason isn't the regular season, and Allen demonstrated last game that he is better in the regular season. Or at least Peterman showed that he is Peterman in the regular season. Start Allen, even though thoughts of him getting killed like Carr scare me a bit. But I think Allen handles it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 47 minutes ago, CoachT said: Either McD can't evaluate QB talent or.... ... or it takes time for QBs to develop and it helps to have good offensive personnel around them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, CoachT said: Peterman. He is terrible. This sort of saved you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Your reaching there. McD is just another 1960s old school ultra conservative coach. That thinks you win with Defense and Running games Listen to him in Pressers. Close your eyes you will see Dicky J I could absolutely imagine "I thought we punted well" coming out of McDermott's mouth this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 McDermott is still thinking of starting Peterman. That tells you all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Peterman might be one of those guys whose good in practice, but folds when the bullets start flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, chris heff said: McDermott is still thinking of starting Peterman. That tells you all you need. If he does I am jumping off the boat. The fire McDermott campaign starts here. Not even an idiot would start Peterman again. The man is a liability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 IMO starting Peterman is the right move... until they feel Allen is ready. Maybe Allen has some fatal flaw that we don't know about that he's working to fix.... only McD knows the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Allen is a top 10 pick. People have accepted he has work to do. He has a very long leash with the fans. Peterman on the other is a 5th round pick. He has shows what he can do and it should be clear he is not an NFL starter. It is insane to have him starting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 TT deserved to be benched, you guys forget how bad he was playing at the time. Was not a mistake, I would have locked him in the bathroom with no food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Peterman did a nice job in training camp and preseason. He won the QB competition straight up. There would have been all kinds of questions had he started Josh Allen in the Baltimore game. I think he was as disappointed as anyone in the way things turned out, and, I'm guessing, more than a little surprised. It is true that had Josh Allen started the game and then had to be pulled, it would have created an extremely awkward set of circumstances, but I don't really think that was a significant motivation for him to do things the way he did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, pi2000 said: IMO starting Peterman is the right move... until they feel Allen is ready. Maybe Allen has some fatal flaw that we don't know about that he's working to fix.... only McD knows the answer. Wish I had such an imaginative mind. I just cannot get those visions of Peterman' s inept performances out of my mind. I see so many "fatal flaws". Edited September 10, 2018 by Radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Radar said: Wish I had such an imaginative mind. I just cannot get those visions of Peterman' s inept performances out of my mind. The huge boner was trading away the only experienced QB on the roster in AJ... that said, an even bigger boner was not bringing in a seasoned veteran to tutor Allen (and Peterman). You could also argue they should've kept TT around along with drafting Allen. But to trade TT, and then trade AJ leaving the reins to a 5th rnd second year pro and a rookie, without doing anything to beef up the OL, just reeks of incompetence. Edited September 10, 2018 by pi2000 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I agree with OP. I even want to n8 to start game 2. Let JA come in with no pressure and leave with confidence like he did yesterday. As for why bench TT last year likely because they were moving on from him amd wanted to evaluate in house talent. My question is why so little Peterman in the late games as that would have saved us time this summer; the answer is that everyone wanted 17 to jot he 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Let Peterman self-destruct against SD and MIN. GB might a good spot to hand it over to Allen.. on the road against a poor defense. I could live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I agree with the OP. There is NO WAY they put Allen in the game early in the 3rd quarter if their confidence in Peterman was that high and theyre afraid of ruining Allen. I am 99.999999999999999% sure Allen will start from here on out. In some type of strange way, this was the best case scenario for the bills coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 54 minutes ago, chris heff said: McDermott is still thinking of starting Peterman. That tells you all you need. I genuinely do not believe another team in the entire league would entertain adding Peterman to their roster in any capacity. But McDermott is thinking he might start here in Week 2. McD is such a typical football guy. Peterman is "their guy" and they believe in him. They are going to stick with him no matter how bad he is. The guy literally can't get through a complete football game! And here he is being considered as next week's starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I genuinely do not believe another team in the entire league would entertain adding Peterman to their roster in any capacity. But McDermott is thinking he might start here in Week 2. McD is such a typical football guy. Peterman is "their guy" and they believe in him. They are going to stick with him no matter how bad he is. The guy literally can't get through a complete football game! And here he is being considered as next week's starter. If he starts it’s only because they think it’s the best way to develop Allen. I don’t think it is a “Peterman is our guy” thing. The most they think of Peterman is that he could some day be Allen’s backup. Edited September 10, 2018 by Batman1876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Soon as Allen struggles people will jump all over it. Peterman wasn't good but the entire team was bad and most people use Peterman as a scapegoat. Allen isn't going to like starting 1st and 15 or 20 either because stupid penalties. Shady breaks a run finally oh wait some one holding made it happen so it doesn't count. Edited September 10, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 You guys (mostly) wanted to end the streak and get your QB. You did both. So why all the emo carping about this season? It is what is. Call it tank, rebuild or process. Deal with it like grown men. Gosh. One would think we wpuld collectively have thick ass skin by now. Those bitching - do you really want about 8-8 again this season? 3-13 and growing would be better than another feckless 8-8. Tank? Nah. It looks like will work itself out. Go.with it. Always forward and never straight; or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 If Josh Allen turns into a top 10 QB then they CAN evaluate QB talent. Let's start that show and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 13 hours ago, pi2000 said: The huge boner was trading away the only experienced QB on the roster in AJ... that said, an even bigger boner was not bringing in a seasoned veteran to tutor Allen (and Peterman). You could also argue they should've kept TT around along with drafting Allen. But to trade TT, and then trade AJ leaving the reins to a 5th rnd second year pro and a rookie, without doing anything to beef up the OL, just reeks of incompetence. Can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I think they were caught flat footed by Richie and that was the fatal blow to the line. If you have Richie in, you have an all pro quality LG, with eases Dawkins in at LT, the hope was it allows the "winner" between Groy and Bodine to be passable, same with Miller/Ducasse/Teller winner at RG and Mills/Newhouse winner at RT. Ride Shady behind a just good enough oline, play a ball control offense with easy reads to ease the QB in. Suddenly Richie remembers he's Richie (or doesn't have Wood in his ear anymore), that's the jenga block that sends the entire oline crashing and it was too late in the process to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 McDumbass passed on Mahomes so I do not believe he can evaluate QBs. It’s my opinion that Mahomes was clearly a superior prospect compared to Allen. (Yes I know they came out a year apart) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Batman1876 said: That is how you win unless you have a good QB. If Allen is good you'll stop hearing it. The Minnesota Vikings would beg to differ. Check out their record since 2000 ... and then see who was under center for them. Except for bringing in Favre for a season or two at the end of his career, their QBs have mostly been mediocre. Last year, they were a game short of going to the Super Bowl with backup Case Keenum as their QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) We should signed a better bridge QB like Matt Moore or something. Peterman is horrific in every sense of the word. His teammates know it and so does the rest of the NFL. 49 minutes ago, The_Dude said: McDumbass passed on Mahomes so I do not believe he can evaluate QBs. It’s my opinion that Mahomes was clearly a superior prospect compared to Allen. (Yes I know they came out a year apart) They didn't even look at him which is infuriating. Only QB they liked was Trubisky who I like but it was easy to see Mahomes was special. Everything Allen does he does better. Edited September 11, 2018 by FeelingOnYouboty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 McCoach will be the first to go unless he changes his ways. And it's ridiculous to write that given how long he's been an assistant, a coordinator, and now a HC in the NFL. If he doesn't reinvent himself he'll end up like Jauron, albeit with far less time in the league. And that means getting away from being a defense first, conservative offense type who doesn't take risks and believes it's better to have choir boys who trust the process than talented types. This franchise is a mile away from competing. Some is the result of a previous flawed GM who wrote checks that are now coming due. But both the GM and HC are not demonstrating anything other than how to tear down a roster and rebuild the long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 McDermott could go 0-16 and he won't be fired this year. Anyone suggesting otherwise is lying to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoTier said: The Minnesota Vikings would beg to differ. Check out their record since 2000 ... and then see who was under center for them. Except for bringing in Favre for a season or two at the end of his career, their QBs have mostly been mediocre. Last year, they were a game short of going to the Super Bowl with backup Case Keenum as their QB. I was saying when you don’t have a good QB then defense and running the ball is how you win. Are you disagreeing with that? Most of the Vickings success since 2000 came behind good defense and AP running the ball. Edited September 11, 2018 by Batman1876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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