Steptide Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 We were putrid today all around no doubt. However this offense looked like it had zero chemistry. Imo they took way to long to pick a qb to start. Yes Peterman was awful, and going forward Allen should start, but I wouldn't expect a huge jump starting Allen. This team needs chemistry and it takes time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 No. Peterman just plain sucks! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I don’t think it would have mattered if Peterman was named the starter back in July. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: However this offense looked like it had zero chemistry. If by no chemistry you mean no talent then I agree 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Would it have really mattered if they named him starter the week before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: We were putrid today all around no doubt. However this offense looked like it had zero chemistry. Imo they took way to long to pick a qb to start. Yes Peterman was awful, and going forward Allen should start, but I wouldn't expect a huge jump starting Allen. This team needs chemistry and it takes time Frankly that has little to do with it. We have a talent deficit at almost every position group on offense. Bad players together for a long time don’t suddenly become good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Steptide said: We were putrid today all around no doubt. However this offense looked like it had zero chemistry. Imo they took way to long to pick a qb to start. Yes Peterman was awful, and going forward Allen should start, but I wouldn't expect a huge jump starting Allen. This team needs chemistry and it takes time This team needs more than chemistry. It needs NFL caliber players. It is currently gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 They named the wrong starter is the only problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: We were putrid today all around no doubt. However this offense looked like it had zero chemistry. Imo they took way to long to pick a qb to start. Yes Peterman was awful, and going forward Allen should start, but I wouldn't expect a huge jump starting Allen. This team needs chemistry and it takes time I would have said it's what happens when the coaches fall in love with a Whiteboard Wizard who looked great in preseason at QB but who has minimal experience diagnosing and reacting to defenses at regular-season game speed, then put him in to play behind a poor OL who continually put us in the hole with penalties and have him throw to mediocre WR who have trouble catching under adverse conditions. But maybe that's just me 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I think the Peterman experiment today was a necessary evil, unfortunately. Once you go to Allen, you can’t go back to Peterman. I don’t know what naming the starter 6 days before the game had anything to do with the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 No, we just have no talent. Wouldn't have a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: They named the wrong starter is the only problem. It is one but far from the only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Oh please. "Chemisty" isn't a thing. Talented players are a thing. Or lack of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Peterman didn't get much help. There is no doubt about it. But to me, there were four or more reasons why he should not be playing and all of them were very evident today. The weak arm is obvious. But he doesn't throw well over the middle. He doesn't handle a pass rush well. His lack of being able to beat you down the field kills the run game. He also panics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steptide said: We were putrid today all around no doubt. However this offense looked like it had zero chemistry. Imo they took way to long to pick a qb to start. Yes Peterman was awful, and going forward Allen should start, but I wouldn't expect a huge jump starting Allen. This team needs chemistry and it takes time This is what happens when you name a BU at best 5th round pick that has done NOTHING in this league the starter. Should have named the Allen starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Really bad post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 There is a lot more wrong with this team than the starting QB. Sure, Peterman is bad, but the surrounding cast is equally putrid. 47 points allowed, a poor OL, receivers who don't get separation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Anyone who did not see this as inevitable was not being honest with themselves or anyone else here. McD prevented Peterman from facing any D pressure the entire preseason in order to sell his increasingly bizarre fixation on NP as the starter. It was pointed out over and over that NP "looked great" in preseason because he had an extremely easy run playing nearly exclusively against guys who weren't on any roster today. I've been behind McD as the first legit HC here by the Bills since Marv retired. But it really is starting to look like he may not be that bright....that maybe all he is is a wind up bromide spouting empty head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: This is what happens when you name a BU at best 5th round pick that has done NOTHING in this league the starter. Should have named the Allen starter But I thought he looked like Brees? The Bill's were going to have a Brees/Rivers situation on their hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, apuszczalowski said: But I thought he looked like Brees? The Bill's were going to have a Brees/Rivers situation on their hands? Yeah I know THAT never came out of my mouth lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Peterman didn't get much help. There is no doubt about it. But to me, there were four or more reasons why he should not be playing and all of them were very evident today. The weak arm is obvious. But he doesn't throw well over the middle. He doesn't handle a pass rush well. His lack of being able to beat you down the field kills the run game. He also panics. Ultimately it’s a passing league and we went into the season without a qb, OL, WRs, a pass rush, and only 1 corner. We will show some flashes here here and there but unless allen steps up huge, it’ll be a long year. Having a qb and playing with a lead masks a lot, but outside that, it’s a rough situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: If by no chemistry you mean no talent then I agree The two aren't mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 No, the real travesty is that you drafted Josh Allen to be the franchise QB, they needed to spend the entire offseason to that end instead of McDermott pissing away 4 months on his pet project Peterman and idiotic "competition". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: Ultimately it’s a passing league and we went into the season without a qb, OL, WRs, a pass rush, and only 1 corner. We will show some flashes here here and there but unless allen steps up huge, it’ll be a long year. Having a qb and playing with a lead masks a lot, but outside that, it’s a rough situation. All of that is true but it doesn't negate that NP really should not even be a backup IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 There is a lot more wrong with this team then the QB position.......we HAVE to be able to run the ball to keep pressure off either of these guys.....wide receivers cannot drop balls that are catchable....... In short.....players have to make plays.....but this team looked very unprepared and that is on McD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yeah I know THAT never came out of my mouth lol I know, wasnt saying it was you, just bringing up that wonderful post from earlier..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 No … this is what happens when you have 3 QBs compete for a starting job and none of them have any business starting in the NFL. Allen gets a pass for being a developmental rookie with a high ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: There is a lot more wrong with this team then the QB position.......we HAVE to be able to run the ball to keep pressure off either of these guys.....wide receivers cannot drop balls that are catchable....... In short.....players have to make plays.....but this team looked very unprepared and that is on McD You cant expect to run the ball even with the best RB if defences dont have to respect your passing game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: All of that is true but it doesn't negate that NP really should not even be a backup IMO. I chalked that point up as starting today without a qb in my framing. All offseason most of my favorite posters (you included) pointed out his limitations. He’s a good enough dude, but when you aren’t physically talented enough you often look good in garbage time or preseason and the wheels fall off when it counts. Ignoring stat lines, we all should have seen those skill set limitations, and generally realized they were matching what was happening on the field. Disheartening that our coaches haven’t seemed to be able to make the same connection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I would have said it's what happens when the coaches fall in love with a Whiteboard Wizard who looked great in preseason at QB but who has minimal experience diagnosing and reacting to defenses at regular-season game speed, then put him in to play behind a poor OL who continually put us in the hole with penalties and have him throw to mediocre WR who have trouble catching under adverse conditions. But maybe that's just me Hap, I may be reading between the lines or interpreting this wrong but it kinda seems like you are saying that maybe we aren't very good. Am I off base here?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The Bills have very little talent and did brutal job signing free agents, then you include dead cap money and there is a very good chance you're watching the worst team in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: You cant expect to run the ball even with the best RB if defences dont have to respect your passing game. Yup. JA was the only one that forces safeties back and he gives the best shot at explosive plays. This isn’t a 15 play drive type of team. It’s a long ball here, and a pick 6 there and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I'm not being sarcastic like I have been in my other posts today. I honestly do not see Peterman being remotely close to an NFL quality player, which is on McBeane. How in God's name they saw fit to trot this guy out there is beyond me. Ego? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No, we just have no talent. Wouldn't have a difference. Wrong you are my friend, we have one bad ass punter! #BojorquezMVP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Continuity was overlooked all preseason. Our o-line and d-line hadn't worked together at all during the preseason. Things take time to develop. unfortunately, I'm not getting any younger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Huh?? If they named Peterman the starter three weeks earlier would it have been any better? Silly thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The Bills have a lot more problems than QB (Peterman or Allen). The O-Line is atrocious and can't max protect against a four man front, which allows the defense to maximize pass defense. The WRs are not good route runners and have stone hands. The pass-rush was suspect and the Ravens essentially moved the ball at will. This is primarily a coaching and GM failure with the lack of talent. The O-coordinator didn't adjust and make things easier. Just my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I chalked that point up as starting today without a qb in my framing. All offseason most of my favorite posters (you included) pointed out his limitations. He’s a good enough dude, but when you aren’t physically talented enough you often look good in garbage time or preseason and the wheels fall off when it counts. Ignoring stat lines, we all should have seen those skill set limitations, and generally realized they were matching what was happening on the field. Disheartening that our coaches haven’t seemed to be able to make the same connection Who cares about the fans? The coaches not being able to tell is definitely the only thing that counts. I don't blame Beane either, I think McD gave the ok to trade AJ. McD is too caught up in the "process". There's no substitute or process for pure talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I chalked that point up as starting today without a qb in my framing. All offseason most of my favorite posters (you included) pointed out his limitations. He’s a good enough dude, but when you aren’t physically talented enough you often look good in garbage time or preseason and the wheels fall off when it counts. Ignoring stat lines, we all should have seen those skill set limitations, and generally realized they were matching what was happening on the field. Disheartening that our coaches haven’t seemed to be able to make the same connection Yep. I like McD and Beane a lot for the most part. But I am still scared, and will be until shown otherwise (which I mostly expect) that they know anything about offense. Last year everyone pretty much regressed. Dennison and Castillo were terrible hires. Tolbert and those kinds of guys were awful. We got rid of Sammy, Woods and Goodwin for various reasons, some of which were good but we got rid of them all. Zay has not been good. DuCasse is a catastrophe. They got rid of Glenn. The loss of Wood and somewhat Incognito may have been noneof their doing but Bodine and Newhouse as FA replacements (and I know Newhouse is a OT mostly) were bad players to begin with that have lived up to their reputations. Josh could be their savior. I really like him. But so far their decisions on offense have been brutally bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 FYI Peterman has been outscored 77-7 in his 2 starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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